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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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Agar can be reheated a few times. I don't think it'd be worth it to try to recover it from funky plates though - it's super cheap and less effort to just mix more media.

Amazing that they would melt. Agar melts at like 85 °C.

Edit: I wonder if they're bacterial and that's what degraded/liquefied the agar.


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Edited by Phaethon (08/02/24 04:29 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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agar-agar melts at around 85-95ºC and solidifies at 32-40ºC it exhibits hysteresis because it allows the gel to remain stable at room temperature for longer its just the large temperature differential
just mix up a new batch, what else did you do to those?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Oh ok. The seller is well known out here and told me it was either from the heat or whoever was delivering the agar to me and didn't handle it right.

Do you think it'll be okay to try to make a transfer on the one agar plate that looks okay?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
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I didn't do anything to it. That's how it arrived.
I never made agar myself, but I ordered everything to start making my own agar plates. So the seller is a liar I see. He told me it probably melted due to the heat, which is impossible because ain't no way it was in 85 degrees celcius. But he did also say maybe the person who was delivering it to me dropped it or didnt handle it correctly. But yea I'll start making my own agar from now on


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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all kinds of problems can happen with agar in the mail unfortunately if you dont know how to pack it like a professional

:pink:

vendors often don't care but its super easy and you should learn anyway.
order some low lovibond dme and fitlane or licing jin agar-agar
got a pot and a stove
got a vessel and an instant pot or pc?


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Edited by fiddle_head (08/02/24 04:58 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head] * 1
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Yup I got all of that. Actually excited to start making my own. I should of just started doing that in the first place


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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make an sab and your set then bud. might wanna order a scalpel and torch too.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head] * 3
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Got a flowhood and all the things needed already 👍


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 2
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Don't gotta rub it in!:laugh2:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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Well flowhoods out here are very cheap lol. I checked online how much they are in other countries like the US and holy shit they are expensive. I feel like I'm rubbing it in even more 😂


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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Jrey16 said:
Well flowhoods out here are very cheap lol. I checked online how much they are in other countries like the US and holy shit they are expensive. I feel like I'm rubbing it in even more 😂


Yeah, flowhood in my country: 400 Big Macs 

:cryaboutit:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SWBZA]
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So, Shroomers, a question and a warning.  The warning: when you buy online, pay attention.  Yikes, dumb-dumb did it again.  Bought 8-quart "shoeboxes" on special, so ordered many.  Thing is, when they arrived I got confused as I have no idea what shoes go in them: they are square, and deep.  Meaning my shrooms all have not only fuzzy feet but whole fussy stems.  They suffocate, even with the lid cracked open of flipped.

So, my plan: I'm thinking I'll drill 1/4" holes on each of the four sides, just above the coir level - like one used to have when you did a monster monotub, only smaller holes.  This way the high CO2 levels on the substrate surface can go away and my babies can breathe.

Now, when growing spawn the best practice is at least 4 layers of micropore to ensure no contams get to your grains. My question: for this modified shoebox, will covering the holes with one layer of Micropore / Transpore provide adequate filtering of contams while allowing enough FAE?  Or do we need the same level of filtering as when making spawn?

TIA

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SWBZA] * 4
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there is no sterility issues once you spawn. That part is over. The act of spawning to a substrate itself introduced potential contaminants from the air when you mixed it all up. So you needn't worry about opening the box or filtrating the air, it's a moot point. If the myc was run sterile in the jars, it has a healthy immune system. Spawning to sub is not a sterile process

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SingularFusion]
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SingularFusion said:
there is no sterility issues once you spawn. That part is over. The act of spawning to a substrate itself introduced potential contaminants from the air when you mixed it all up. So you needn't worry about opening the box or filtrating the air, it's a moot point. If the myc was run sterile in the jars, it has a healthy immune system. Spawning to sub is not a sterile process


Thanks, understood. Still, the hairs on the back of my neck stand straight up if I think of not covering the holes at all. One layer of micropore, or nothing at all?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Buy a dollar store hack saw and cut your rack.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Seriously_trippin said:
SingularFusion said:
a five dollar hacksaw would make short work of the long legs on those racks :shrug:


True. I'm not very handy and have shaky hands but if I'm careful about it, it should be realitively easy. I guess I can cut it hanging off my kitchen counter. I was thinking I also didn't have a workbench so it'd be hard to do but maybe not


The rack I have came with 3 of them so they can stack. I think you only need an inch of water anyway, right? Ive never done it, but I think I read about it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SWBZA]
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no worries man, you can do a layer if it makes you sleep easy. I am just saying it may not be at all effective and certainly isn't necessary. But it also isn't going to hurt much, you will just need more holes than otherwise to achieve the same airflow because you are restricting them with tape

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SingularFusion]
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Tea Question:

After last harvest I have a bunch of cut ends with coir attached.  I’m planning to make tea - is it good bad or no difference if there’s coir in with the butt ends?  Lots of pins and little aborts tucked in that coir.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SingularFusion]
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SingularFusion said:
no worries man, you can do a layer if it makes you sleep easy. I am just saying it may not be at all effective and certainly isn't necessary. But it also isn't going to hurt much, you will just need more holes than otherwise to achieve the same airflow because you are restricting them with tape


Thank you.  Kind regards and happy growing.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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What do I do with fully grown out plates of intermediate transfers?


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