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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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Oats work until they don't...then it's a never ending battle trying to make them work.  Wheat/Rye/Millet and other grains consistently work.

I threw out the remaining 400lbs of oats that I had after fighting through 600lbs of it for 6 months trying to get any reasonable success rates after it had worked for over a year without any major issues.  After switching to wheat everything instantly starting growing like it should and my bacteria issues disappeared overnight.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Buckdog] * 2
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The thing with popcorn is that you are really challenging yourself to know how well hydrated it is because it remains pretty intact as a colonel. With other stuff, you can just look at it and tell if it’s hydrated properly or if it’s been overcooked or undercooked.

With popcorn just follow your recipe and do not question it. Because you will probably mess it up. This is why most people don’t like it as a grain. I don’t know who is spreading the lie that this is a popular choice for growing mushrooms on.

It’s not.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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What’s maximum thickness before you’ll split a shroom for the dehydrator?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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Lol you've gotten confused somewhere here, I'm talking about oats. It's the only thing I've tried so far


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PBJ710]
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Lol well shit, hopefully I can get something from this. I'll definitely look into what else I can possibly get in bulk around here


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 3
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GenesisCorrupted said:
What’s maximum thickness before you’ll split a shroom for the dehydrator?


Don't cut em just stack the trays all crazy with gaps or however they sit and they'll all settle right down and close on their own as fruits dry


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: rumfor69]
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My thoughts too, I like to keep them whole if I can help it. I've had some where the lid is resting on them, as long as it's lined up it'll close eventually lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: rumfor69] * 2
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rumfor69 said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
What’s maximum thickness before you’ll split a shroom for the dehydrator?


Don't cut em just stack the trays all crazy with gaps or however they sit and they'll all settle right down and close on their own as fruits dry


I Set a 8lb weight on top of my dehydrator to close the gaps.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Buckdog] * 1
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I like oats. I see more problems on here with WBS than I do with oats. Oats have been good to me.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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Hopefully they're good to me too lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122] * 2
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Proposition 122 said:
I like oats. I see more problems on here with WBS than I do with oats. Oats have been good to me.


I would say the opposite. Just for posterity sake.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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Greetings. 1st timer here. I'm sure it's posted all over the place but this forum is huge; I figure this would be faster.

I have two 10cc syringes and have injected 4cc into a grow bag. Do I have to shoot the rest into bags as well? I see grows in jars n stuff.. but wasn't sure if you can use a liquid syringe jig for that. Or what to use as a medium or substrate w/e it's called

Sorry if dumb question


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: adrispoon31] * 1
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24179086#24179086

Try this if you can.
I don’t really like all-in-one grow bags just because you want the grains to be fully colonized before you introduce it to the sub.

You could also try making some agar if you’re interested. Very easy only costs a couple cents to buy a packet.
Then you could put the spores onto that. Then cut a piece of the agar wedge and put that into a jar of grains.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
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Just want to pop in to say there's nothing inherently wrong with all in one substrates (e.g. grain + coir) being sterilized and inoculated with liquid culture or a little bit of grain spawn. That's the whole basis of Muda's bottle tek, which is pretty great.

Where most seem to go wrong with all in ones (and bags of grain for that matter) is inoculating them with spore syringes instead of clean mycelium. And maybe some of the vendors selling these things aren't preparing or sterilizing the bags well, but I'd think that would usually be pretty apparent before inoculation (I haven't actually tried one).

Edit: to adrispoon31's actual question, GenesisCorrupted's advice is also what most others around here would recommend for spore syringes. I'd also highly recommend reading Beef's Hitchhiker's Guide, which includes descriptions and links to both the PF Tek and many of the other core techniques we use to grow mushrooms.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 2
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I have mostly success and some failures with both. I started with wbs and do reverse Fooman prep. The wbs requires several rinses before it runs clean. I started oats with BOD’s easy AF prep. Now I’m using Yoshi’s low-prep. 205 g oats go into the jar, then 165 ml hot water. I let the jars sit for 1-2 h with occasional shakes, then 2 h  at 17 psi. I had rinsed the oats once and they were clean. Some triple-washed bag at C-A-L Ranch, even cheaper than wbs.
Both these preps give me clean food for myc. I’ve kept uninoculated jars around for 2-6 w without any signs of contamination. The mold is coming from my plates or my mishandling the inoculation.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon] * 4
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The pictures in my sig are AIO preps done in jars.  Spawned to trays and cased.  I find wedge inoculating bags a bit of a hassle, so use jars.

If it works that well for Pans it certainly will work fine for cubes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Imatryin]
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When pasturizing (manure for pans) in bags with sous vide, so you guys use vacuum seal or just fold and clip? I like vacuum seal as I can just dunk with weights, but clip and twist let's me check temps. The downside there is they aren't water tight and try to float.

I suppose if I ran 2 or 3 bags in a tub I could apply a healing port to one and throw a probe in it, then hope the others hit similar temps internally.

I have a very nice sous vide, and this seems to be the easiest way to pasturize, so I'm wanting to get it down to set and forget. I believe a probe and my wifi app for sous vide would be the easiest.


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~Agar~ 1000mL water = 1000g water. use ~1% agar...1% of 1000g is 10g.  For cubes, use between 1-2% nutes (10-20g). For pans use 0.5% nutes (5g).

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Okay so at the moment I have four PF cakes that I birthed and gave the 24-hour soak. I had done one cake a couple days prior to the other three. The first cake I rolled in verm putting a small pile on top that was damp. It is in its own water tub. The other three after the dunk I attempted to case in Coco coir. I had problems getting at the stick so I took out a few handfuls put them on the lid to the water tub. I was going to use moistened it slightly and eventually got it to stick well enough.


I have two remaining cakes in jars that are almost ready to rock. They are definitely pinning but from what I understand it's because I have the taller narrower half pint jars.

Should I roll them in vermiculite or case them In coir? There's also the third option of attempting to just fruit them out of the jars. I don't really think it's a good idea, but if enough people were to recommend it I would try it.

I know these things have been discussed, but this is the quick questions. Quick answers thread and I just want to see what the current opinion is going to be.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gypd812]
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a couple jars of wheat berries. jar on the left lagged behind like 2 weeks in colonizing, and just doesn't look as vibrant a white. should I be worried about contam?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gypd812] * 8
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Gypd812 said:
...Should I roll them in vermiculite or case them In coir?...


I've had trouble getting sub to stick to cakes reliably so I changed tactics. I use 4" plastic saucers and pack the sub on until the cake is covered by a mound and fruit them in a water tub.




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