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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Sitrix]
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Proper field capacity substrate doesn't look wet

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra]
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I still feel like it could apply.
Sorry.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Some pan species will show fruits a few days after casing.  Pan Cyan (TT)BVI put out two flushes in ten days (from being cased) in a 75 degree chamber.


tree frog, I'm insanely jelly over the genetics you are coming across.  BVI is quick for me also but not like that. I've also seen you mention 9 days after casing for bisporus!  I'm conditioned to not even look at my trays until like day 20 lol.  Nice work man!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
I still feel like it could apply.
Sorry.


Like if you replace the wood chips with colonized dung then maybe? But panaelous cyans are a dung loving species and psilocybe cyanescens are a wood loving species so the quick and easy woodchip propogation techniques we use for ps. Cyans don't really apply and won't work.

Wood chips can be done without any sterilization or pasteurization which makes them extremely low tech to get into cultivating outdoors.

Dung substrates require pasteurization to get a fully colonized sub.

So even then it's not a perfect swap because of the missing steps for dung. It really is apples and oranges here.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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I thought it was a wood lover. My bad.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
I thought it was a wood lover. My bad.


You're good man. That is a good tek for Ps. Cyans so I'm glad to hear you're reading up.


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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I have a quick question.

I very much want to use that tech that I posted here. But I live in Washington and we have been suffering the effects of global warming. Our summers have been reaching the high eighties to 90s. Would it even be possible for me to have an outdoor cyan patch in this climate anymore?

If I maintained a watering schedule for it twice a day. Would this make it possible or would it simply be too hot?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
I have a quick question.

I very much want to use that tech that I posted here. But I live in Washington and we have been suffering the effects of global warming. Our summers have been reaching the high eighties to 90s. Would it even be possible for me to have an outdoor cyan patch in this climate anymore?

If I maintained a watering schedule for it twice a day. Would this make it possible or would it simply be too hot?


Which side of the cascades are you on?

Short answer is yes you can use that tek but if you're east of the cascades you'll need to maintain it with more watering.


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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I’m on the west side, pretty near the water. If I was in Spokane, I would not attempt it.
Follow up. Would it prefer a shady spot under a bush?
Or would it prefer a ring underneath a large tree?

I can include pictures of the two perspective locations if anyone’s interested.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
I’m on the west side, pretty near the water. If I was in Spokane, I would not attempt it.
Follow up. Would it prefer a shady spot under a bush?
Or would it prefer a ring underneath a large tree?

I can include pictures of the two perspective locations if anyone’s interested.


YES shady spot under a rhodi would be ideal!


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson

EZEKIEL 23:20

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger] * 3
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Also my man, cyanis are popping in wa all the time every season. Don't fret too much. Feed em hydrated wood chips and keep them in the shade.

Follow the wind currents to find the patches. They are out there.


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson

EZEKIEL 23:20

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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Now the bush is contentious for one and only one reason.

I am fairly certain this is a species of nightshade. It produces a dark purple berry.
This is a little crown of space at the center of it. It still receives some sun, but the berries fall around this area. Would there be any risk to me consuming mushrooms that grew out of this soil?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
Now the bush is contentious for one and only one reason.

I am fairly certain this is a species of nightshade. It produces a dark purple berry.
This is a little crown of space at the center of it. It still receives some sun, but the berries fall around this area. Would there be any risk to me consuming mushrooms that grew out of this soil?


Lol you got me there bud. Personally if someone said they grew cyanies under a nightshade bush I would be like "fuck yeah count me in" sounds like it would make the trip dark and feminine.

Mycelium is an amazing filter and is really good at sorting out anything that doesn't help it grow but I don't know anything about absorbing poisons from other species. For what its worth, all the mushroom guides ive ever read only focus on avoiding poisonous mushrooms and not anything about mushrooms growing near poisonous plants.


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson

EZEKIEL 23:20

Edited by elasticaltiger (02/06/24 10:19 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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A little question about my grow bag cake (which is in a monotub). I'm on to my third flush now, and there's really not many pinning on it now that I can tell... I assume it's just exhausting its nutrients at this point. I had read in the past in a few places randomly that when people's cakes got to this point, they broke them up into 6 or so chunks, and then mixed them into a fresh nutrient rich substrate in their monotubs (cannot recall what substrates they suggested unfortunately), misted well with water, and apparently this helped trigger it back into a colonisation mode, where it then began taking over the substrate and eventually lead to heaps of new fruiting and flushes all over again as it fed on the new substrate.

Is this a reasonable thing to attempt? If I'm at the point of basically throwing the thing out, I figure why not, right? Could anyone suggest a decent substrate to use, ideally something that could be bought from a store or garden center, that sort of thing. Once I harvest this next flush, whatever it ends up being, I'm keen to try!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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My yard is notoriously growing an edible but not very nutritious mushroom. It’s a very healthy biome. I’m gonna try it. I just need to get around to finding a spore print or syringe that I can start out with.

Thank you for the advice.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Sobek] * 1
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I bet you could with sugar water.. do some playing around for sure to get the nutrients right and then sterilize of course. This is just a theory that popped into my head while reading your question lol. Mycelium needs a nutrient (sugar) and the sub will have to be rehydrated of course. You’d have to sterilize the original substrate as well, otherwise contamination will set in fast. Which means new  inoculation… which kinda makes this all pointless now that I’m writing it out. I suppose you could just bring more grains to the sub… lol



But why not just start a new grow all together?

Edited by PhenoDreamers (02/07/24 08:18 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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stagger said:
tree frog said:
Some pan species will show fruits a few days after casing.  Pan Cyan (TT)BVI put out two flushes in ten days (from being cased) in a 75 degree chamber.


tree frog, I'm insanely jelly over the genetics you are coming across.  BVI is quick for me also but not like that. I've also seen you mention 9 days after casing for bisporus!  I'm conditioned to not even look at my trays until like day 20 lol.  Nice work man!


Thanks!

The BVI was a gifted culture.  And I was also surprised that the bisporus started pinning already.  The MS grows these cultures came from all took two to four weeks to pin.  And the two week ones had consolidated three weeks.

The Bisporus pinsets don't look great though so I'm back to dialing in conditions this morning.


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I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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Are these grain jars looking viable so far?

I'm just getting into this and, well, went ahead and made most of the typical rookie mistakes. These jars are syringe to grain but I'm not seeing anything obviously horrifying (yet). These are the two jars with the most growth but I have a few more that are showing signs of life.




Both jars seem a bit wet, the one on the right has quite a bit more condensation which is focused right above the growth (the other side of the jar has nearly none) and the growth in the left jar seems really dense in comparison. I'm goobering my way through figuring out how to not contaminate the hell out of agar plates to slightly increase my odds of cultivating some clean spawn so I'm just hoping these are viable enough to get something while I work towards being more gooder.

Didn't realize how lousy the picture was until now, lol

Edited by nobutreally (02/07/24 08:09 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nobutreally]
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I'm sure this has been asked a million times, but any tips on how to stop blobbing on PE varieties or is it luck of the draw?

Cheers mates :takingnotes:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: stockw] * 1
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stockw said:
I'm sure this has been asked a million times, but any tips on how to stop blobbing on PE varieties or is it luck of the draw?

Cheers mates :takingnotes:


higher substrate ratio.
blobbing is directly connected to high concentrationof nutrients.
a proper casing also helps


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