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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
So I can just poke the loop in there bring it in red hot and just spray it with alcohol instantly.




You spray the loop after you sterilize it? I thought that was frowned upon for potentially reintroducing contams.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: TPython]
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Yeah don’t spray sterile tools with alcohol.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Someone said that helps to cool it.
But if I don’t have to, then I won’t do that anymore. Thank you.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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Yeah they’re so thin the cool pretty quick. Almost as fast as they turn red


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EniQma]
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It’s just the hole itself is freaking me out. I just gotta get over it.

Edited by GenesisCorrupted (02/05/24 10:36 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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Oh yeah, I know what you mean. It’s hard to tell when the hole is sterile since it doesn’t change color in the flame.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EniQma] * 1
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Everything must be clean!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DRAKENCL]
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DRAKENCL said:


Do they grow stagnant or do they simply rot? Any opinion?



That is infected with pseudomonas bacteria.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Welp. Looks like you gotta burn your house down.
jk

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
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SirPsycho said:
Mr Piggy said:
I literally bend a lil piece of bailing wire into a loop and use that :shrug:



Proper nichrome loops are so good though. It's like a scalpel vs an x-acto. Yeah, they are pretty much the same thing and yeah they both get the job done but the scalpel and the nichrome loop are just so much nicer to use.



I get that, but I can never justify buying one when my lil bit o wire is perfectly suitable.  I'm sure if I increased past casual hobbiest the workload difference would cause the difference in quality to become apparent.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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If it boils the agar when you quench it it is sterile. If it's hot enough to give your skin a mean burn it is sterile. Sterility is reached before the metal glows.

I have a tool I use that is too thick to get the tip glowing. If the tip gets that hot the handle will melt a glove or burn me.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 5
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GenesisCorrupted said:


Welp. Looks like you gotta burn your house down.
jk




Pseudomonas tolaasii is the usual culprit with blotch on mushrooms.

This Pseudomonas fluorescens I isolated came off a wild Cordyceps militaris I found last summer. The cordy sat in a sealed test tube for close to two weeks before I tried to plate up a piece. All that grew was several bacteria. The cordy looked pristine still. No rot of any kind. No slime. I think the bacteria is more interesting than the cordyceps. At first I was bummed but then turned lemons into lemonade.



There are a lot of different Pseudomonas. They are very common.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Smellyhobbit said:
So I’ve got like triple the amount of tubs in my grow space as usual and the substrate wont stop sweating.

Is this just going to be as issue with that many tubs? Any way to mitigate all the water pooling up around the edges? Having warm pools of water has been causing a lot of bacterial jelly to form, and in some cases it’s been bad enough to stunt growth.

Should I just not stack tubs? Grow less?




More tubs is more heat and need for oxygen. Cubes can handle the co2 but they need a lot of oxygen especially when they are considering fruiting.

Try cutting a hole or two in the back and installing a computer fan or two to get some air movement. It sounds like a little drying action might help anyway. small exhaust up high and a passive hole down low to let it in.

That's a lot of biomass cooped up in a small space.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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skrontz said:
how can i more successfully harvest this second wave after pulling a lot of mushrooms?



You can get these. It makes cutting down to the sub so much easier while working in a tub.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bigworm]
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Bigworm said:
skrontz said:
how can i more successfully harvest this second wave after pulling a lot of mushrooms?



You can get these. It makes cutting down to the sub so much easier while working in a tub.




And if you get good at sleight of hand you can convince people you can bend scissors with your mind!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mycosispeon]
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mycosispeon said:
QQ in relation to this post...

I did a second "break and shake" on these Mazatapec inoculated rye berries 5 days ago when they were between 75-90% colonized.

This was just before I did it on 1/31


This is today


They look clean to me, no signs of adversity (moisture, metabolites, etc), but are they fully colonized and ready to spawn?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: arnold582] * 1
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arnold582 said:
2 weeks ago, I started another jar using a MP filter, but this time around I changed it after PC'ing. I thought this might solve the gas exchange issue (which I thought stemmed from gummed up tape pores), but just like my previous batch, this one stalled out after shaking without any visible myc growth after ~4 days. I was surprised because I had really strong mycelium growth before (sadly no pics).

At first, I thought the jar must've been contaminated, even though there were no signs of it other than lack of myc growth, but then I carefully loosened the lid inside my SAB and 24h later, I have visible mycelium growth again.

Would it be fair to conclude that this is almost certainly a gas exchange issue?



I would say so, yes. I've had the exact same situation happen to me with too little gas exchange. Popping the lid produced myc the next day. So I concluded same as you :smile:

That being said, changing your filter, whether it's MP, polyfill, paper sticker, is not a good idea. It's supposed to be sterilised with the jar and not tampered with afterward. I did replace paper filters with sterilised polyfill, in my sab, but it's definitely not recommended.

Also, 4 days is a little early to draw conclusions. I've had jars take 1-2 week before showing any sign of colonisation.

arnold582 said:
I'm not sure if my gas exchange hole is too small (3mm or 1/8"), or if this MP tape is just ass. It's not 3M branded, mind you, but it's supposed to be nearly identical, it's described as surgical, paper-based, breathable tape.



I'm not sure about the MP you use, but when I switched from polyfill to paper filters, keeping one 10mm hole was way insufficient. Super slow colonisation, popping the lids needed.

Here I'm testing my proven polyfill setup against 2x10mm paper filter holes, on 2 strains.

I don't know what size your jars are, but 3mm could sound a wee small :zoom:



Good luck with your new lid! :peace:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: starburstmemories] * 1
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Just FYI,  mp tape has to be 4 layers minimum or it's just letting contam in due to the large pore size of mp tape.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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DERRAYLD said:
Just FYI,  mp tape has to be 4 layers minimum or it's just letting contam in due to the large pore size of mp tape.



After 4 layers, though, is there any FAE possible still? Sounds like MP has no place in our hobby other than for covering the holes in a modified monotub?

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