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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: rxb]
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Because people are dumb.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Because people are dumb.


reasonable theory.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: rxb]
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rxb said:
sudly said:
Oh damn, you can't read can you, sorry mate I didn't know you were special.


the debate style you are employing is like telling me i need sources for why i dont like ham when i said i didnt feel like eating spaghetti.

i cant make this more clear for you. she is bad at presenting herself as a serious candidate.

people loose brain cells when she speaks, so she wont be president.


You said she has stupid ideas so I asked what you mean and instead of anything relevant to this campaign you quote her saying she wanted to fight hate with love with no context around policy.

I'll try to find a snippet or quote from this year to see once and for all if you're biting the hook, haven't been exposed, or legitimately just don't like policies like universal healthcare or what.

If you lose brain cells hearing her speak you probably didn't have any to begin with, but that's why I'll try to find something recent to help illuminate such things.

E.g. a simple message from 2 years ago.


I suppose I can understand the accent stuff. Better than a Texan sound though.

Will look for more recent stuff eventually too. 


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Edited by sudly (08/23/23 06:42 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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She's a grifter who writes books with titles like:
The Law of Divine Compensation: On Work, Money, and Miracles

And descriptions like:
Marianne Williamson is a bestselling author (Return to Love, Healing the Soul of America), a world-renowned teacher, and one of the most important inspirational thinkers of our time. In The Law of Divine Compensation, she reveals the spiritual principles that help us overcome financial stress and unleash the divine power of abundance. A guru to anyone interested in spirituality, Williamson's words ring with power and truth as she assures us that, with faith in God's promise of prosperity for all, we need never fear the future

Nobody serious is going to take her seriously.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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So she wrote a self help book,

Quote:
In the compassionate but clear-eyed prose that has won her so many avid readers, Williamson shows us that the principles which apply to our personal healing also apply to the healing of the larger world. Calling on Americans to turn the compassion in our hearts into a powerful force for social good, Williamson shows us how to transform spiritual activism into a social activism that will in turn transform America into a nation seriously invested in the hope of every child and in the potential of every adult.


You can not like her for any reason, but if it's for her policy proposals, you have to be able to backup that to be taken seriously yourself.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly] * 1
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Her policies are irrelevant because she'll never get more than 0.5% of the vote.  She won't be the D nominee ever but especially not if the current D POTUS is alive and running for reelection.  She knows this but election campaigns are a great way to sell books so here we are.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
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You said she has stupid ideas so I asked what you mean \
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i mean her platform of beating trump with love.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
So she wrote a self help book,

Quote:
In the compassionate but clear-eyed prose that has won her so many avid readers, Williamson shows us that the principles which apply to our personal healing also apply to the healing of the larger world. Calling on Americans to turn the compassion in our hearts into a powerful force for social good, Williamson shows us how to transform spiritual activism into a social activism that will in turn transform America into a nation seriously invested in the hope of every child and in the potential of every adult.


You can not like her for any reason, but if it's for her policy proposals, you have to be able to backup that to be taken seriously yourself.


Based on that obnoxious affect she uses when speaking, I would have guessed her profession as self help guru.  Just what need, another grifter running for president. This is why people won't vote for her.  Doesn't matter policy proposals, a con artist is a con artist.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: rxb]
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ballsalsa said:
Her policies are irrelevant because she'll never get more than 0.5% of the vote.  She won't be the D nominee ever but especially not if the current D POTUS is alive and running for reelection.  She knows this but election campaigns are a great way to sell books so here we are.


She's third in the Democratic primary shortly behind Kennedy, despite constant smears, downplaying and belittling. There's plenty of time for her to grow, and Biden knows it'll come from the debates if he shows his sorry face.

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Joe Biden
64%

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
13%

Marianne Williamson
10%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/01/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voters-crosstabs.html



Joe Biden is running away from all debates with her because he knows she'd chew his numbers down. Why aren't you bagging out Kennedy's chances? He's a crackpot conspiracy theorist loving fella who's only got off from name recognition.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: rxb]
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rxb said:
sudly said:
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You said she has stupid ideas so I asked what you mean \
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i mean her platform of beating trump with love.


If you think that's her platform, it says more about you.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly] * 1
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Kennedy has no chance.  Even if Biden didn't exist, neither of them would be the Dem candidate.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Kennedy has no chance.  Even if Biden didn't exist, neither of them would be the Dem candidate.


Kennedy doesn't stand for anything, he doesn't have the same potential to grow with publicity, Marianne does. Hence why she's being snubbed at every chance.

If Biden didn't exist who'd you want to run? Bar Kennedy and Williamson.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
ballsalsa said:
Her policies are irrelevant because she'll never get more than 0.5% of the vote.  She won't be the D nominee ever but especially not if the current D POTUS is alive and running for reelection.  She knows this but election campaigns are a great way to sell books so here we are.


She's third in the Democratic primary shortly behind Kennedy, despite constant smears, downplaying and belittling. There's plenty of time for her to grow, and Biden knows it'll come from the debates if he shows his sorry face.

Quote:
Joe Biden
64%

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
13%

Marianne Williamson
10%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/01/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voters-crosstabs.html



Joe Biden is running away from all debates with her because he knows she'd chew his numbers down. Why aren't you bagging out Kennedy's chances? He's a crackpot conspiracy theorist loving fella who's only got off from name recognition.


Did you miss the ENTIRE thread of us dunking on how awful a candidate Kennedy is?  The answer to Biden being boring and Trump being a criminal is not a self-help new wave grifter. :shrug:  This woman seems to elicit the same type of cult of personality response from you that Bernie Bros and Maga display towards their idols.  That in and of itself is a disqualifier in my book.  No one is so inspired by Biden that they would storm the capitol, these cult types though...


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ice Nine]
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bidens year over year decline is huge.

i doubt he will be the candidate. i hope not.

but neither of the other two stands a chance.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ice Nine]
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What's one thing a Bernie bro would say?

I loved Bernies policies but he was too paddycakes with Biden and refused to attack him on what would work.

I'm the only one talking about policy, you're all stuck on character things like her accent and that she said fight hate with love. Literally nothing from any of yall against her policies.

What would people be inspired to do by Marriane? Vote and take part in the electoral system, hope for real representation and the same right to universal healthcare every other developed nation has paid into?

Where is the grift from Marriane?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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Is this y'all's first election cycle?
If Biden is alive then Biden is the man.  The party won't let anyone primary the sitting President.  Dude would have to stroke out on live tv or something for us to even discuss it further.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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Yeah they'll prob up his corpse alright, but Marriane is the only one who'd be a positive change.

A lot can happen in a year and I don't think Biden has much room to go up from here, I think he's just trying to minimise his losses by avoiding debates.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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Marianne has no real upside except to her bottom line as a woo-woo book saleswoman.  I have no doubt that she'll sell more books but I promise that she won't win a national election.  I doubt she could win a statewide office in any state.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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I think it's fine to doubt if she'll win, and I do too, but if you're going to question the merit of her platform then do it sincerely and in line with policy proposals.

What's one downside to universal healthcare?

All you're doing otherwise is an attempt at character assassination.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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She did try for congress one time and came in fourth.
I still say most revolt against the perception (true or not) of people wanting to start at the top.  Not every time but mostly and we see how trump worked out.  People with bigger resumes get popped pretty good as well cause they have baggage that can be pointed out. 

Even Bernie's problem was not what he said but faith in what he could get done.  After trump, boring biden deserves to get another term.  He has did as well as any could expect with the make up of the legislative branch and in my mind deserves to keep it going.  They are going to be running against kamala more then biden probably but had she been the nominee against trump, I would have voted for her and so in my mind nothing has changed. Trump is a traitor and biden and harris are not and believe peoples votes should count and for this time in history, I take no chance voting for them and sending a message to all the traitors.

My goal would not be to bring bidens numbers down like has been suggested might be a good thing.  If that is the belief, it is a mistaken one that does not understand the danger of the opposition.

Edited by gww (08/23/23 09:58 PM)

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