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Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies.
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Hi Shroomery family
Been reading and learning for years with you. Thanks in advance for all your help

Im having problems with my monotubs !! The fruiting bodies are getting mature but not growing in size. They stay super small. Also I started seeing a decoloration right on top of the primordios when they suppose to become pins...
Sharing photos...

The pin set looks great but the fruiting bodies are not growing more that an inch or two max.





I'm growing mexicana (Cubensis) in a 60 qt monotube with 6 holes with micropore. I used 3 pound of fully colonized rye grain mixed with CVG (650gr coir, 1 cup gypsum, 2 liter verm, 4 liter of boiling water)
Started from a friend's print who's not having this issue.

I've seen post for the last 3 days but can't find anyone having the same problem. I read lack of moist but it can't be as the substrate had perfect field capacity and i mist it every day as the inside walls of the tub gets dry.
I control the temp with a electric fan that is working with a thermostat set at 22c°
This is not my first tub. Nor second. But it's the first time with Mex. I used to inoculate B+ with amazing results. The difference is that i change the location of my grow.
Gracias y mucho amor desde pirineos 💚

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Re: Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies. [Re: Kuryaki]
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Kuryaki said:
Hi Shroomery family
Been reading and learning for years with you. Thanks in advance for all your help

Im having problems with my monotubs !! The fruiting bodies are getting mature but not growing in size. They stay super small. Also I started seeing a decoloration right on top of the primordios when they suppose to become pins...
Sharing photos...

The pin set looks great but the fruiting bodies are not growing more that an inch or two max.





I'm growing mexicana (Cubensis) in a 60 qt monotube with 6 holes with micropore. I used 3 pound of fully colonized rye grain mixed with CVG (650gr coir, 1 cup gypsum, 2 liter verm, 4 liter of boiling water)
Started from a friend's print who's not having this issue.

I've seen post for the last 3 days but can't find anyone having the same problem. I read lack of moist but it can't be as the substrate had perfect field capacity and i mist it every day as the inside walls of the tub gets dry.
I control the temp with a electric fan that is working with a thermostat set at 22c°
This is not my first tub. Nor second. But it's the first time with Mex. I used to inoculate B+ with amazing results. The difference is that i change the location of my grow.
Gracias y mucho amor desde pirineos 💚



I think small fruits usually signify a lack of FAE, if your tub is dialed in you shouldnt need to mist everyday and your walls shouldnt be drying out. You could be over hydrating it?

It could also just be bad genetics

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Re: Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies. [Re: Pandaskis]
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Thanks
I did changed the Coco coir brand and bought a cheap 5kg block that was pretty nasty with tiny stones and herbs. This may result in having extra moist as it had i would say 10 percent of the content that wasn't coco. So yeah maybe it was over hydrated.
And the genetics is coming from a friend's print that he got in the first flush of a comercial grow kit.
It's happening the same in my 5 monotubs :frown:
And what do you think about the pic with the yellowish/brownish decoloration ??

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Re: Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies. [Re: Pandaskis]
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Pic 3 screams contam, I'd just keep an eye on the tub and don't expect a second flush.
When you say, started rom a friends agar, how did you transfer it?
He may have better sterile technique than you. Got say photos of the spawn before it went in?
99.99% of the time, its unclean spawn. Go back over your sterile technique.


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Re: Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies. [Re: Kuryaki] * 2
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Kuryaki said:
Thanks
I did changed the Coco coir brand and bought a cheap 5kg block that was pretty nasty with tiny stones and herbs. This may result in having extra moist as it had i would say 10 percent of the content that wasn't coco. So yeah maybe it was over hydrated.
And the genetics is coming from a friend's print that he got in the first flush of a comercial grow kit.
It's happening the same in my 5 monotubs :frown:
And what do you think about the pic with the yellowish/brownish decoloration ??



Oh i didnt even see that pic, didnt load up for some reason... I think your spawn may have been bacterial, the primordia doesnt look right. Youre getting fruits so at the very least youll have something!

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Re: Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies. [Re: HappinessStan]
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HappinessStan said:
Pic 3 screams contam, I'd just keep an eye on the tub and don't expect a second flush.
When you say, started rom a friends agar, how did you transfer it?
He may have better sterile technique than you. Got say photos of the spawn before it went in?
99.99% of the time, its unclean spawn. Go back over your sterile technique.



Yeah the spawn had extra metabolites in it. More than usual actually.

I started from a friend's print. I made my own syringes and inoculated as usual. I know that spore syringe aren't the best to prevent contam, but I just moved forward as i had to start asap.
Mmm don't have photos of the bags...

I'm thinking that some bacterial action plus extra hydrated substrate could have been the problem

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Re: Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies. [Re: Kuryaki] * 1
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Kuryaki said:
HappinessStan said:
Pic 3 screams contam, I'd just keep an eye on the tub and don't expect a second flush.
When you say, started rom a friends agar, how did you transfer it?
He may have better sterile technique than you. Got say photos of the spawn before it went in?
99.99% of the time, its unclean spawn. Go back over your sterile technique.



Yeah the spawn had extra metabolites in it. More than usual actually.

I started from a friend's print. I made my own syringes and inoculated as usual. I know that spore syringe aren't the best to prevent contam, but I just moved forward as i had to start asap.
Mmm don't have photos of the bags...

I'm thinking that some bacterial action plus extra hydrated substrate could have been the problem



Yeah you generally want to under hydrate bacterial spawn too. If you shot it up with your own spore syringe, then its highly likely its bacterial.

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Re: Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies. [Re: Pandaskis]
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Hey I did found photos of the spawn bags

As you guys can see there's some extra metabolites.... Ops

But then the contam on the primordios is bacteria ??
Can this put at risk my other tubs ?? Should i isolate them ?
Is a bit difficult to me, but would do if necessary

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Re: Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies. [Re: Kuryaki]
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Those bags are heavily bacterial. Bacterial tubs aren't really going to spread to other tubs though and for the most part the fruits are safe to eat.


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That's the way she goes, boys. Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn't, cause that's the fuckin way she goes.

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Re: Help ! Contam ? Super tiny fruiting bodies. [Re: Kuryaki]
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Kuryaki said:




Hey I did found photos of the spawn bags

As you guys can see there's some extra metabolites.... Ops

But then the contam on the primordios is bacteria ??
Can this put at risk my other tubs ?? Should i isolate them ?
Is a bit difficult to me, but would do if necessary



Looks bacterial but i dont see mold. Its the mold you really care about when putting other tubs at risk. I think your other tubs are safe until you see mold in the tub

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