GarbagePerson said:

Well, a tub was constructed in such a way that there is a hose running through the substrate and releasing CO2 into it.
Here it is:
Pops Test Tray Mushrooms Co2 cake experiment Monotub

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GarbagePerson said:

Well, a tub was constructed in such a way that there is a hose running through the substrate and releasing CO2 into it.
Here it is:
Pops Test Tray Mushrooms Co2 cake experiment Monotub

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Way said:

This guy comes off as well intentioned, but hes using outdated or pointless methods.

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Oki I will keep this in mind, thank you
Would you rate the following this outdated or inacurate?

mycofile said:

I think that mass of substrate is more related to fruit size than simply depth.  That's why straw shrooms are so big, cuz it's easy to create a large mycelial mass.  Small trays of straw on the other hand typically yield smaller fruits.

Also, I'd like to add a few things to mushmasters

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and plenty of fresh air) = bigger fruits

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Not necessarily.  For example, in a finely tuned system, playing around with the co2 levels can lead to much larger fruits than simply giving lots of fresh air.  High co2 makes the stems stretch, but get it too high, and you end up with skinny stems and small caps.  Detailed manipulation of co2 levels allows one to stretch the stems with high co2 levels, but not let co2 get too high so as to not stunt cap size or stem thickness.

Along these same lines, certain strains (pure cultures, not spore strains) are much more resistant to the small cap, skinny stem reaction to high co2 levels.  These strains came be made huge in a low/no fresh air environment.

But in general Mushmaster's right, for most people and most strains, plenty of fresh air will yield bigger fruits than not enough fresh air.

Also, biggest fruits I've ever seen in my life were border busters.  They pinned from the side of a tray, well below the casing surface.  Border breakers are commonly the largest shrooms ever seen, by many cultivators.  Nobody has really proven why, but it's pretty consistent.  If somebody's been growing for a while, their largest shrooms were most likely border breaks. 

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GarbagePerson said:

Way said:

This guy comes off as well intentioned, but hes using outdated or pointless methods.

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Oki I will keep this in mind, thank you:)
Would you rate the following this outdated or inacurate?

mycofile said:

I think that mass of substrate is more related to fruit size than simply depth.  That's why straw shrooms are so big, cuz it's easy to create a large mycelial mass.  Small trays of straw on the other hand typically yield smaller fruits.

Also, I'd like to add a few things to mushmasters

Quote:

and plenty of fresh air) = bigger fruits

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Not necessarily.  For example, in a finely tuned system, playing around with the co2 levels can lead to much larger fruits than simply giving lots of fresh air.  High co2 makes the stems stretch, but get it too high, and you end up with skinny stems and small caps.  Detailed manipulation of co2 levels allows one to stretch the stems with high co2 levels, but not let co2 get too high so as to not stunt cap size or stem thickness.

Along these same lines, certain strains (pure cultures, not spore strains) are much more resistant to the small cap, skinny stem reaction to high co2 levels.  These strains came be made huge in a low/no fresh air environment.

But in general Mushmaster's right, for most people and most strains, plenty of fresh air will yield bigger fruits than not enough fresh air.

Also, biggest fruits I've ever seen in my life were border busters.  They pinned from the side of a tray, well below the casing surface.  Border breakers are commonly the largest shrooms ever seen, by many cultivators.  Nobody has really proven why, but it's pretty consistent.  If somebody's been growing for a while, their largest shrooms were most likely border breaks. 

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Mycewbbie said:

I'm using non modified tubs, just flipping the handles and resting the lids on top. I've learned that I don't care for this tek and plan to drill 2in holes and make some standard modified tubs for my next go round. The lids are easily knocked around, can't stack bins, and atleast for my situation maybe let too much air exchange happen. I now have a much better idea of what I'm doing from when I started, I went out and got a pressure cooker, several cases of mason jars, 50lbs of grains, syringes, needles, built a sab, gloves, alcohol, hell I even got a mini fridge off marketplace specifically for storing jars of liquid cultures that I've been working on for the last month..lmao.. im gonna get this shit right this time!!

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