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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Psilynut2 said:
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I'm guessing you're the sort of person who believes there was no foul play with Epstein's "Suicide" either lol!




 

    When you think about  how prevalent suicides are in prison and then when you consider the fact that hanging is the most common method , no probably not .  Is there any evidence that foul play occurred ?


Suicides don't happen when a person is on suicide watch after supposedly attempting suicide.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Of course they do.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Of course they do.


Not really, no.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bandwagon] * 1
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Bandwagon said:
You’ve made a claim as well. Why is my claim the one that needs justification and your verification in order to be valid, while your claim is just inherently true and needs no further explanation?

You’ve mentioned no policies. Your posts have all been rants about Bernie supporters and Trump.

:lol:

Trump 2024 enjoy


Trump will be in court till the day he dies. Capital riots with a major death toll, taking classified documents to a completely unsecure location whether through bad intentions or utter stupidity, tax fraud from the Trump Organization already proven, installing fake electors to subvert the electoral college, calling up state officials to get votes changed in Georgia and elsewhere; there will be more. Because he was a President he probably wont do time, but that's the only reason, and it's not a sure thing if more Republican officials come over.

He is incapable of listening to legal advice, and now when he most needs them, no good criminal law firm is willing to tarnish their reputation by representing him. After he shits his pants enough times, maybe he hops in a jet to Moscow or Tehran. The idea that he is going to get out of all this by getting elected is a right-wing jerkoff fantasy.

I will enjoy every minute of it.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
I'm sure they took large upfront retainers after Giuliani got stiffed.


That's the funny thing. Besides the reputational issues, good law firms don't trust him to pay them. Same as when he was in the real estate business, and didn't pay the contractors who built his properties. I guess this is why some fans still call him a good businessman.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Psilynut2 said:
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I'm guessing you're the sort of person who believes there was no foul play with Epstein's "Suicide" either lol!




 

    When you think about  how prevalent suicides are in prison and then when you consider the fact that hanging is the most common method , no probably not .  Is there any evidence that foul play occurred ?


Suicides don't happen when a person is on suicide watch after supposedly attempting suicide.


That’s exactly when suicides happen


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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My guess has always been that Epstein wasn't murdered, but was criminally allowed to commit suicide for his and a lot of other people's benefit. He may have been murdered. There's no way it was simple negligence.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Enlil said:
Of course they do.


Not really, no.


Source?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
My guess has always been that Epstein wasn't murdered, but was criminally allowed to commit suicide for his and a lot of other people's benefit. He may have been murdered. There's no way it was simple negligence.


That wouldn't be a crime anyway.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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It’s not unreasonable at all to think that he could have been offed while in prison, but we’ll likely never know wether or not it was due to foul play.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Brian Jones said:
My guess has always been that Epstein wasn't murdered, but was criminally allowed to commit suicide for his and a lot of other people's benefit. He may have been murdered. There's no way it was simple negligence.


That wouldn't be a crime anyway.


Do you mean simple negligence, or intentionally allowing him to have the means to hang his self?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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@ Enlil, ok, yeah, that checks out too.  Be it negligence or intentional.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass]
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I had no idea. Somebody could have taken my money on bet for that.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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It is possible to get manslaughter for encouraging it, but that doesn't seem to apply here.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
My guess has always been that Epstein wasn't murdered, but was criminally allowed to commit suicide for his and a lot of other people's benefit. He may have been murdered. There's no way it was simple negligence.


Could be. I wonder if the guards still have their jobs. Would they trade their job so Epstein could kill himself?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Suicides don't happen when a person is on suicide watch after supposedly attempting suicide.


  Ya it does , happened with Aaron Hernandez .
  There's no uniformed standard for how they perform the watches , every jail does it differently .


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass]
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The Blind Ass said:
It’s not unreasonable at all to think that he could have been offed while in prison, but we’ll likely never know wether or not it was due to foul play.


It's not unreasonable to think about alien life.  It's unreasonable to presume it has visited earth.  It's unreasonable to conclude that epstein was murdered.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
Enlil said:
Brian Jones said:
My guess has always been that Epstein wasn't murdered, but was criminally allowed to commit suicide for his and a lot of other people's benefit. He may have been murdered. There's no way it was simple negligence.


That wouldn't be a crime anyway.


Do you mean simple negligence, or intentionally allowing him to have the means to hang his self?


Neither would be a crime.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
I had no idea. Somebody could have taken my money on bet for that.


Otherwise, we'd create a duty to rescue other people.  Imagine the litigation if that existed.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
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Suicides don't happen when a person is on suicide watch after supposedly attempting suicide.


  Ya it does , happened with Aaron Hernandez .
  There's no uniformed standard for how they perform the watches , every jail does it differently .


Wasn't Epstein in a maximum security prison? The standard where he was held was 24/hour watch. Usually they put you in some sort of paper gown or something, and don't allow anything that could be used to commit suicide in the room.

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