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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Jokeshopbeard said:
Asante said:
trees said:
Lol you didnt read at all.
Quote:
Blanket booster programs are likely to prolong the pandemic, rather than ending it, by diverting supply to countries that already have high levels of vaccination coverage, giving the virus more opportunity to spread and mutate,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a news briefing.

“No country can boost its way out of the pandemic,” he said.

Global health experts say the emergence of omicron is tied to vaccine inequality.






I have an antivaxxer friend and he has lapses in reading comprehension like this too.



Based on the quote/exert above, I think it is quite clear what the WHO is suggesting.

There is only x amount of vaccine available. It should be spread worldwide as widely as possible, rather than giving the majority to rich Western countries so people there can have as many boosters as they want.

Another classic case of resource inequality between countries fucking things up for the people of the world.

Quite what you and koods are seeing, and how, is beyond me.

People see what they want to.



You summed it up correctly, unlike the other antivaxxers in this thread




Yup, you're not letting your point of view get in the way of correct interpretation of the data offered.

You're seeing it for what it says, even if you disagree with the WHO's POV.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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In all seriousness, no sarcasm, no fishing for talking points for future arguements, if koods and whoever else really have more knowledge on topic, I have a few questions.  Whether you believe me or not I do look for neutral information without an agenda but everything is conflicting depending on the source.

How severe is omicron really based on what we know this far?

Are the vaccines protecting us from omicron or is it just the boosters? And why?

Is there any truth to the reports that the vaccinated seem to be the majority of the omincron cases?

Is it worthwhile to make new vaccines as variants occur or what does that depend on?

Again these are honest questions not trying to steer the convo in any direction.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
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Quote:
Vaccine inequity is “the most horrific injustice of 2021,” Dr. Michael Ryan, executive director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, said at the briefing



All i ever argued against was koods' bold claim that anti-vaxers are the  primary target of whos to blame for the pandemic.

Simple stuff guys, but koods and Asante have a tendency to live out their self created fantasies in this thread for some reason. Not sure what psychologcal phenomena that is, but they suffer from a variety of other delusions separate from covid stuff so :shrug:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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namaste said:
Stop wasting all the doses and just get vaccinated already.



How is he or anyone else 'wasting all the doses'?


Asante said:
Yup, you're not letting your point of view get in the way of correct interpretation of the data offered.



It seems to me I saw/interpreted it exactly the same as trees did. Yet you said to him:

Asante said:
No, you are reading it wrong.




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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27591069 -

I saw that too.:facepalm: I honestly think in their heads this is a larp game of cops and robbers. 2 teams. Not on their team? "Antivaxer"

They either managed to get confused by your post or theyre not telling us the imaginary kiddie rules of their larp game


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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Quote:
Are the vaccines protecting us from omicron or is it just the boosters? And why?



Even tho they contain the same substance, the three shots do different things. The first shot teaches the immune system how to make cells that make antibodies specific to the original spike protein. The second shot, the body uses these cells to make a lot of antibodies. After the second shot, over the period of months, some of those memory cells mutate to be able to create antibodies that target variants, and the third shot causes those antibodies to be produced.

Two shots separated by six months would have generally had the same end result, but would leave the person with poor antibodies levels for six months


Quote:
Is there any truth to the reports that the vaccinated seem to be the majority of the omincron cases?



Probably. The majority of people are vaccinated.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/22/21 09:02 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 1
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trees said:
Quote:
Vaccine inequity is “the most horrific injustice of 2021,” Dr. Michael Ryan, executive director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, said at the briefing



All i ever argued against was koods' bold claim that anti-vaxers are the  primary target of whos to blame for the pandemic.



The WHO is saying that the pandemic isn’t over until everyone gets vaccinated. The antivaxxers are the ones that make that goal extremely difficult


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Where do they say something like that? Nowhere in that article do they explicitly say "to end the pandemic" or "pandemic isnt over until" find anything even close to that statement or youre full of it. Lol

. Im pretty sure theyve never said anythkng like "everyone" to get vaxed. Its always a percentage of the pop.

They say this in the article
Quote:
“No country can boost its way out of the pandemic,”



And this
Quote:
Vaccine inequity is “the most horrific injustice of 2021,”



Not this, none of it actually

koods said:
The WHO is saying that the pandemic isn’t over until everyone gets vaccinated. The antivaxxers are the ones that make that goal extremely difficult




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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 1
    #27591104 -

Quote:
“No country can boost its way out of the pandemic,”



Right they don’t want people to be getting extra shots until everyone is fully vaccinated. I’m not sure why you’re missing this


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Right they don’t want people to be getting extra shots until everyone is fully vaccinated



Not sure where you came up with such an explicit statement. The WHO never uses the word "everyone" lol

Youre 100% aware of how wrong and rediculous youve been in this thread. Youre a queen of Cirque du Soleil level mental gymnastics and larping, pretending you read something different, interpreting things in the dumbest way possible, feigning ignorance, dodging questions, making up whacky false WHO statements and being in direct violation of them. Failing to back it all up when prompted. Epic fail of a debator

Youre an anti-truther is what i should start calling you.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 2
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You’re at a hamhead level of dunning Kruger now.

https://www.who.int/campaigns/vaccine-equity

Quote:
The fastest way to end the pandemic is to ensure vaccines are available to everyone, everywhere.




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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/22/21 10:12 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Lol koods thanks to your own article i can say something koodisan, you dont even understand the word "everyone" and what "available to everyone" means incomparison to "everyone vaccinated"

Quote:
THE PROBLEM:
WHO set a target for all countries to vaccinate 10%

Even more countries are at risk of missing the WHO targets of vaccinating 40% of the population of every country by the end of this year, and 70% by the middle of next year




Is 70% everyone? No its 7 out of 10 people.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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Everyone means everyone. It’s doesn’t mean 70% lol are you serious?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/22/21 10:38 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Mental gymnastics. Lol you are definitely serious, in trying to interpret "available to everyone" as "everyone vaccinated period" while way before in the article they say 70% to satisfy their goal.

Mental gymnastics, keep trying kood. Youre embelishing the WHOs article you silly goose


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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Taking a boostershot is the ultimate form of white privilege, says the WHO.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
You’re at a hamhead level of dunning Kruger now.

https://www.who.int/campaigns/vaccine-equity

Quote:
The fastest way to end the pandemic is to ensure vaccines are available to everyone, everywhere.





Thats what I mean, their ability to process logic malfunctions over and over again while they are completely able to process the given text logically. Instead it gets garbled in their minds to something its not.

Even when disproving it it happens to them.

My RL friend who has turned antivaxxer has the same malfunction. He is a borderline genius, plays over a dozen instruments. His faculties comletely fail him where it comes to interpreting things relating to Covid. The data borks up on the way in, he is so busy with having his own opinion that correct interpretation of WHAT IT SAYS is disrupted.

Its not that he should agree or disagree but he's failing elementary school level comprehensive reading on this subject.

What I think this is is that a concoction of antivaxxer memes have a so powerful grip over their thought processes that they glitch. Quite literally a computer virus for the human brain.

Trees and that RL friend are not retards. They are intelligent people who fell prey to a disinformation brain hack.

Its a malfunction induced by overly strongly reinforcing thought patterns that interfere with the objective processing of new data.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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Your thought process seems to be malfunctioning for sure, i dont think youre even reading the discussion and you seem to have no idea where i stand on this topic, always simply resorting to the old "antivaxer" card, its the easiest most satisfying cop out for you guys

You literally just chime in to say random anti-antivaxer things blindly into the wind like now you wrote out a big wall of text with pure garbage comparing me and your friend to failed elementary school kids without having ever engaged in any debtate or discussion with me on any topic at all


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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trees said:
Lol koods thanks to your own article i can say something koodisan, you dont even understand the word "everyone" and what "available to everyone" means incomparison to "everyone vaccinated"

Quote:
THE PROBLEM:
WHO set a target for all countries to vaccinate 10%

Even more countries are at risk of missing the WHO targets of vaccinating 40% of the population of every country by the end of this year, and 70% by the middle of next year




Is 70% everyone? No its 7 out of 10 people.




Trees, it is patently obvious that the 10%, the 40% and the 70% are steps toward the goal of getting as close as possible to 100% vaccination rate, with booster.

Like we've been saying, WHO wants everyone, completely, vaccinated and boostered.

Think about it. The WHO has the opinion that being vaccinated and boostered is good so they want it for the whole world population. That is their goal. To reach it most efficiently, they say:  "lets get everybody double jabbed first because we start boosting"  That, too, is pure logic from their point of view.

Misinterpret that :cookiemonster:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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Whatever, interpret however you like, thats what you do, you interpret your thoughts as GOD.. just gtfo with the calling everyone out on antivax shit how about? its flat out false. The way you write out nonsensical walls of text explaining in  your fantastical detail how anti vax and stupid i am its rediculous and your spirit guide should be ashamed.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
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I'm sure if 100% of the world were vaccinated, WHO would be all like "OH, NO! THIS IS TERRIBAD!"

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