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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 3
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Little kids have to take this shit because you, as an adult, are scared of a beefed up cold. Ridiculous


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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The Netherlands just extended the Covid QR pass for natural aquired immunity from 6 to 12 months


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Ach en wee ben ik de klos, met mijn boog schoot ik een albatros...

A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tripsurfer] * 1
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That's a mistake

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: doubleD] * 3
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doubleD said:
Little kids have to take this shit because you, as an adult, are scared of a beefed up cold. Ridiculous


They have to take it to help slow community spread of a beefed up cold responsible for a bunch of people dying. Maybe if you had lost a loved one due to covid or you yourself fell gravely ill you wouldn't think it was so ridiculous. Try to live with less contempt and more compassion for others around you. People like those with preexisting conditions like being on chemotherapy for stage 4 cancer with a weakened immune system that would have a heck of a fight against a beefed up cold. That's why it's important. Whats infact ridiculous is to have to continually explain to folks its the right thing to take action to protect ourselves and especially the more vulnerable among us. :nonono:

Edited by CHeifM4sterDiezL (11/03/21 01:37 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 5
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So let the people who are susceptible to being put in the hospital, or die, from a bad covid reaction have a choice (which they still do, at this time) whether or not they get the vaxx. So let's see lemme tally up who'd have needed the vaxx, about 700k Americans. The rest of us don't need it, especcially KIDS. No one has any idea what'll happen to people, and KIDS, years down the road from this rushed concoction of chemicals that doesn't make you immune from covid, still let's you transmit it to others, and has seriously waning efficiency. Plus, the majority of Americans have antibodies and have absolutely no need for this vaxx.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: doubleD] * 2
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Please tell us more of your incredibly intelligent, informed, and well thought out theories Dr DoubleD

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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We’ve now surpassed 100,000 deaths that would have been prevented with the freely available vaccines. Let’s call this what it is: the antivaxx genocide.

The antivax movement is literally the white genocide republicans have be crying about for years. It didn’t come in the form of illegal aliens, it came in the form of a mass disinformation campaign targeted at poor, brainwashed qanon and Trump supporters who have been convinced to leave themselves at the mercy of a disease they could have easily protected themselves against. The antivaxx movement is pure fucking evil.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/03/21 06:01 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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I think anti vaxxers are pretty dumb, but this isn't any OLD vaccine. And whys it always gotta be a trump supporter? Why does that matter? Seems like the internet broke a lot of you political types and made you think tribally, it's getting really old. The country is essentially half one party and half the other. Get over your ideas, there's all kinds of people that support both parties. Why don't you talk about why kids need this vaxx and not just adults hmm? Your medicine won't work unless my kids take it too huh?


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: doubleD]
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Why does it have to be trump supporters? Idk but that where this antivaxx movement has hit with the most ferocity. Probably because they are easily manipulated and rather dumb. But there’s no denying that that is the demographic that has been hit the hardest by antivaxx disinformation. The demographics of covid has changed drastically since vaccines became available and the proportion of covid deaths in the white population has doubled in this past wave. That is stunning and entirely the fault of antivaxxers. Covid targets Trump voters because they let it happen.

Of course the vaccines are new. Covid didn’t even exist two years ago. Why does that matter. The vaccines work. 95% of people who are dying of covid now are people who are unvaccinated. If everyone were vaccinated there would be 100,000 people who didn’t die a miserable death gasping for air for weeks. So it doesn’t matter how old or new the vaccines are. It’s the results that matter.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/03/21 06:47 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Why don't you talk about why kids need this vaxx and not just adults hmm? Your medicine won't work unless my kids take it too huh?


Because children account for more than 1/4 of covid infections.

And vaccines aren’t medicines


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/03/21 06:43 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Tripsurfer said:
The Netherlands just extended the Covid QR pass for natural aquired immunity from 6 to 12 months


CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
That's a mistake


they should only permit this for people who got covid before the vaccines were freely available. The problem is it incentivizes people to get covid so they can get on with their lives. The immunity may be the same but getting natural immunity is far far more dangerous than getting it through the vaccine


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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It's not your choice or the governments to make. And how about you show some percentages of deaths/unvaxxed by race? Sure there's a lot of white people dying cos they're essentially the majority. Talk to us about why people of color don't want the vaccine. Are they all trump supporters?
"Do you contain antibodies citizen?" "Yes, but only developed them after the safe, free, effective, and uninsured safety of the vaccine was made available." Do you hear yourselves?


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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a booster shot is still not a bad idea TBH. There's still plenty of covid around and the research on the long term effects of infection is starting to grow to strongly support the idea that chronic damage results from even mild covid infection. I haven't seen anything yet that show's differences in long term effects on breakthrough infections vs reinfections in unvaccinated individuals, but I think it's a safe bet that having higher neutralizing titers has way more potential to be protective rather than harmful. There's no reason to let immunity wane and pick up another covid infection. can't wait to see more solid research spring from this font of impaired judgement and lacking insight though. gotta remember to thank some of you for your contributions to science. It'd be a huge ethics violation to ask you not to take the vaccine just to see how repeated exposures to the virus fuck up the rest of your lives. keep up the stupidity. do it for science.:thumbup:

Edited by Mr.GuessWork (11/03/21 07:37 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: doubleD] * 2
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A vast majority of vaccine mandates are not being dictated by the government. They are being dictated by private companies. exactly the kind of freedom Americans used to love. I go clubbing at vax only clubs not because the government told them. They’re doing it because that’s what their customers want.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Does Koods go to studio 54?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Yeah the boosters are the way to go. Plenty of vaccines require three shots for full protection I’m not sure why it’s all of a sudden become a big controversy. Boosters were always part of the discussion that they may be required. We’ve never had a vaccine for a human coronavirus, but we know that the immunity you get from being infected with other human coronaviruses is pretty weak and maybe that should have been part of discussion all along. Now people can say “oh well these vaccines suck” when in reality it’s just the nature of coronaviruses that immunity from infection is fairly fleeting.

The Israeli data on the third dose shows about a 10 fold improvement protecting against infection compared to the two dose regime. If you want to avoid getting covid, get three shots. Two is fine if you don’t want to get hospitalized.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Crazy_Horse said:
Does Koods go to studio 54?


Nah this is where I’m going next week and why I got my booster. 3000 sweaty unmasked but vaxxed patrons. Just covering my bases. If I have to get a booster every six months to avoid getting covid, I’m totally down. It literally took me five minutes to get it and I got to shop during the ten minutes they make you wait to make surely don’t have a reaction. Seriously a lot easier than getting sick for a week. It’s a no brainer.



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/03/21 07:44 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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I got a seizure from that video.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Not getting hospitalized feels like a low bar to me. this is a nasty little virus and the variants seem to be getting more infective, and hopefully at some point we'll be able to focus more on addressing long term damage instead of focusing on  preventing collapses of the hospital systems. I'm wondering if the varients are getting better at spreading more systemically thorughout the body during infection as they become more transmissible, and I'd like to see some research on how tissue tropism and viral load are changing. the fact that we're seeing long term effects in the brain from mild infections is pretty concerning. that alone is going to be a meaningful increase in the burdon on the healthcare system and god only knows what else. all the long term damage is going to make people sicker at a younger age and I suspect I'll be sad to see what this does to the average life expectancy 20 yrs down the road, when all these unvaccinated 20-40 year old are about as functional as their vaccinated parents.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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I haven't seen anything yet that show's differences in long term effects on breakthrough infections vs reinfections in unvaccinated individuals, but I think it's a safe bet that having higher neutralizing titers has way more potential to be protective rather than harmful.


Sheekle had a breakthrough infection last week. He got the J&J pretty early and it’s pretty clear now that the J&J is nowhere near as good as the mRNA vaccines, probably mainly due to the one dose vs. two. He said it felt like covid was poisoning his body, and he was sick for less than a week. He says he just has a bit of a headache and still can’t taste and smell right. I think the worst part for him is being in isolation. He’s been super chatty over text, probably from going stir crazy.

DC has really good data on breakthroughs and J&J has nearly 3x the rate of moderna and Pfizer is about 40% higher than moderna.




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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/03/21 08:02 PM)

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