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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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I miss sheekle. Glad he got a vaccine. I couldn't handle his death.

that loss of taste and smell is still kinda concerning. the preliminary paper I was reading on the loss of the grey matter was speculating that the neurons in the nose were the point of access for the the virus to sort of follow connections back from neurons in the nose and leave people with damage that sort of resembles dementia. The brain is a tough thing to protect immunologically, and that damage doesn't go away. I'd keep those titers up and consider wearing a mask if the incidence is high around you.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
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Peope should be somewhat alarmed that the most common symptom reported is neurological. A lot of the covid deniers say it’s just a cold but I’m not aware of any colds that cause neurological damage like covid does regularly

From what understand the virus isn’t directly damaging those neurons, but is infecting some of the cells that support the proper functioning of the neurons in the nose.

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I'd keep those titers up and consider wearing a mask if the incidence is high around you.


I’m pretty fortunate living around here. I think the DC area has pretty much spent the entire pandemic except for the first month pretty close to the bottom in terms of the amount of infections and community spread. The source of DC’s biggest superpreader events was the Trump White House. Not even kidding about that. There were days when a majority of the city’s cases came from the White House


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/03/21 08:18 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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yet another psychological problem that needs to be addressed one way or another. people believe the virus is harmless despite clear counter evidence, but they won't believe vaccination is safe despite clear evidence. 20-40 years down the road, I'm hoping we'll have the psychology under control and be able to treat this as the preventable illness that it is. people this bad at thinking can't maintain this level of obstinate resistance for very long. They'll forget about all this sudden change and the vaccines will sneak into normalcy, and then they can be safe and feel safe without being afraid of the boogey man.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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It’s interesting that covid isn’t even close to being the leading cause of death now for people over 75+, but is for people 40-65. Vaccination has drastically altered the demographics of covid.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 6
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I just want to thank those of you who are keeping it real posting truths or asking realistic questions to help sort it out for yourself. I am in the trenches on this and rarely stick my head up - The relief and gratitude of people bringing their kids in to get vaccinated today brought tears to my eyes just like the initial waves did back in December. The vaccines or a miracle they are not perfect but they are excellent and that includes Janssen especially with 2nd.

Please get vaccinated if you’re not - you’ve probably had 20 + shots already and some with less of a track record than what we’re using. Nothing is ever perfect by recognizing issues we get better -   
We’ve come along way from snorting smallpox pustules and scratching puss into the skin of kids - That was better than the alternatives at the time and led to the eradication of smallpox after which killed hundreds of millions.

The fact that these vaccines are out is a miracle and believe it or not Trump helped by eliminating some of the obstacles that might be inherent in a bureaucracy and providing the money to help it happen the steps were not circumvented.

Get the vaccine. SARS COv-2 is the poison not the vaccine. Thank you again those repeatedly posting the facts about what we know or don’t - it’s a worthy effort. Peace
G

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gman]
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https://ibb.co/0V6rb4W


Edited by Gorlax (11/04/21 12:55 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Gorlax]
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honestly, the neurological/organ damage to things like the heart is the thing that troubles me the most. even if it's something that isn't super massive, if the immune response isnt robust and people are going to keep getting it over and over again, that damage keeps building up over years.... well, losing 5 IQ points once sucks balls, a bit of heart damage is bad, but what happens when a large part of the population is getting this cumulative damage over and over again over the space of years...?

I dont think i like where this is heading. I suspect this is why countries around the world are panicking over "a simple cold" that barely kills anyone - not because of the death rate, but because the long term effects of a huge portion of the population gradually suffering from mental health issues like depression, anxiety, psychosis..., as well as heart troubles. not just the older population but younger healthier workers as well. that would be a massive blow to the entire world's economy at large, not to mention societies healthcare systems - and to governments as a lot of people essentially go batshit insane due to the virus damaging their brains over time.

Course, like idiots, instead of just telling us all this and warning us of the danger, they'd keep it secret in order not to "terrify the populace" when scaring the shit out of people into action is exactly the sort of thing you kind of need to do sometimes. provided you have a clear course of action to take that is. but scaring people is bad for the stock market.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Psion]
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not because of the death rate, but because the long term effects of a huge portion of the population gradually suffering from mental health issues like depression, anxiety, psychosis

it's even simpler. hospitals already ran pretty close to capacity (amount of equipment, use of isolation rooms and PPE, etc.) and staff already operated at the maximum legal staff to patient ratios 80% of the time in pre-pandemic america. it doesn't take an enormous surge in demand for medical resources to tax the entire system. if we had had 3x as many nurses, respiratory therapists,  and doctors and an unlimited supply of ventilators, far fewer people would have died from either COVID or any other cause. some people will inevitably die from it no matter what you throw at them, but many of the deaths were theoretically preventable, had resources/time/staff not been a limiting factor. as long as this continues, every hospital patient suffers. Car crash and broken femur? Don't be surprised if you're lying in bed in traction, totally immobilized, waiting for surgery 3x times longer than you would have had to in 2019.


the deaths, both from COVID and from overtaxing of medical resources, are now about as preventable as one can hope for with respect to this sort of disease. by vaccine. it works for most people. even those who claim to have been vaccinated who get hospitalized tend to just need a couple days of steroids and remdesivir with little to no oxygen/airway support. this is why it's frustrating for us, because things could literally go back to normal if people would just calm down and reassess who/what their enemies truly are so they can get on the right page about battling those enemies

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Psion]
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Psion said:
honestly, the neurological/organ damage to things like the heart is the thing that troubles me the most...

...as a lot of people essentially go batshit insane due to the virus damaging their brains over time.


Might be a blessing in disguise, after all, one thing anyone that isn't an out and out moron or religious fuktard can agree on, we, as a species, are suffering from our own profligate success. No matter how many hints nature throws at us with its various bacterias and viruses, we continue on overburdening our planet with our messy ways, to the point that we will inevitably destroy our only means of existence.

As we go back to our old ways pubbing / clubbing, swapping body fluids with untold strangers of unknown vaccination status, and, by dint, picking up humungous viral loads, possibly even overwhelming our triply vaccinated defences, we might come to a point where the brain damage done amounts to worst case autism.
The question then arises, what percentage of the population going 'worst case autistic' can any society support before the governments of the world have to initiate a program of euthanizing victims, and what would we call such governments. Heartless/nazi/facist, or pragmatic rationalists. :shrug:

Maybe nature will throw us this conundrum. Do we disappear up our own arses via idiotic sentimentalism and religious dogma -man is somehow sanctified/ only god can take life bullshitery (I may be a little 'on spectrum' myself here) or do we bite the bullet and euthenise a fuker? :shrug:


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whether low pressure sucks or high pressure blows...
it's a bugger to cycle in.

even though I'm feeling good
Something tells me I'd better activate my prayer capsule

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: deucedbi9]
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As we go back to our old ways pubbing / clubbing, swapping body fluids with untold strangers of unknown vaccination status

most people who do this sort of thing were barely even slowed down by COVID at all IME,

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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On a brighter note, my other post notwithstanding.

"First pill to treat Covid gets approval in UK".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59163899

This being used at your hospital morrow?

Oops. Redundant question. I missed the "the UK is now the first country in the world to approve an antiviral that can be taken at home for Covid."


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whether low pressure sucks or high pressure blows...
it's a bugger to cycle in.

even though I'm feeling good
Something tells me I'd better activate my prayer capsule

Edited by deucedbi9 (11/04/21 09:43 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: deucedbi9]
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My doctor wants me to take nsaids until the end of time for arthritis in my toes.

Edited by Crazy_Horse (11/04/21 10:42 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Crazy_Horse said:
My doctor wants me to take nsaids until the end of time for arthritis in my toes.


Mine wanted me to take Gabapentin / Pregabalin, addictive drugs with mood altering (and horrible side) effects, even though she knows I have a propensity toward addiction (alcohol) to treat the paresthesia in my feet.

Sadly, even though the UK Gov' allows for the prescribing of full spectrum cannabis (which I know works) for certain conditions, paresthesia isn't one of them.
Doctors here have to jump through so many hoops to be able to prescribe very few of them bother. Mine can't even recommend a brand name of CBD to try. :nonono:


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whether low pressure sucks or high pressure blows...
it's a bugger to cycle in.

even though I'm feeling good
Something tells me I'd better activate my prayer capsule

Edited by deucedbi9 (11/04/21 11:32 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
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As we go back to our old ways pubbing / clubbing, swapping body fluids with untold strangers of unknown vaccination status

most people who do this sort of thing were barely even slowed down by COVID at all IME,


Surely the swapping of body fluids must have been vastly reduced in the last couple of years with the shut down of pubs and clubs. Even where alcohol consumption has increased: https://www.oecd.org/coronavirus/policy-responses/the-effect-of-covid-19-on-alcohol-consumption-and-policy-responses-to-prevent-harmful-alcohol-consumption-53890024/ it has mostly been at home drinking where the likelihood of swapping fluids with people of unknown vax status is reduced.


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whether low pressure sucks or high pressure blows...
it's a bugger to cycle in.

even though I'm feeling good
Something tells me I'd better activate my prayer capsule

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: deucedbi9] * 2
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I been swapping fluids mail order.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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:awesketch:

what fluids

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery] * 1
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That's an awfully personal question.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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Fiery said:
:awesketch:

what fluids


Liquid cultures?


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whether low pressure sucks or high pressure blows...
it's a bugger to cycle in.

even though I'm feeling good
Something tells me I'd better activate my prayer capsule

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: deucedbi9]
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:uhno:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Pfizer booster 20 fold increase in protection against infection compared to people with 2 shots after 20 days.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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