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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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So the following has happened while I was gone on a retreat;

My mom and dad who are double vaccinated are now COVID-19 positive, tested 26-10-21.
My sister (and her child) who's double vaccinated is now COVID-19 positive, tested 26-10-21.
My aunts and uncles who are double vaccinated are now COVID-19 positive, tested 26-10-21.
Lots of people living in the same street as my mom and dad and who are double vaccinated are now all COVID-19 positive.

So yeah, it just shows the vaccines are not effective and not doing their work, oppositie to what they claim.

I'm still unvaccinated, and will stay that way, especially after this. Natural immunity all the way.

I'll probably get a lot of flack for posting this, but it's the truth.

For those wondering, I'm currently with my mom and dad (27-10-21) We'll see what happens and how it'll go.

Edited by spinvis (10/27/21 07:03 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: spinvis]
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keep in mind, that a certain gene provides natural resistance against covid-19, and the lack of it means you probably are more susceptible to it. (i believe it's tied to having a supertaster gene conferring extra protection or the like.) so it might be that your family simply is missing the gene and/or you all have low resistance against this virus in general.

another possibility is, when did they get vaccinated? if it was several months or even longer ago, and or if it was J&J vaccine or pfizer - by now the protection from those shots have gone down dramatically, and in J&Js case wasnt the highest to begin with. only moderna has held up like a champ so far, which is why boosters are starting to be approved to bring immunity levels back up. why this is the case, we aren't sure, but from the example of britan, we highly suspect it's due to moderna having a longer delay between the first and second shot, giving the body more time to build up a robust immune response.

it also sounds like a local outbreak - which might be a case of a different variant that the vaccine is not as effective against breaking out.

vaccines are not a 100% protection. they are a numbers game. except in this case, the prize is sickness, possible permanant disability, or even death. this is not a lotto you want to buy tickets into. this is a lotto you want to lower the odds as much as possible, and vaccines drastically lower your odds compared to inaction. not to mention, doing nothing basically causes you to buy tickets for other people nearby, whereas vaccination has an overall effect of setting those tickets on fire. the higher the vaccination rate, the more effective this is - but the more virulent the virus, the higher the % of the population needed that needs to be vaccinated before you can essentially kill a virus off entirely.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: spinvis] * 1
    #27519777 -

Testing positive doesnt say shit

Vaccines have only limited protection against "testing positive"

Chances they get real sick or require hospital treatment should be low due to them being vaccinated


My oldest kid tested positive with zero symptoms


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Ach en wee ben ik de klos, met mijn boog schoot ik een albatros...

A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tripsurfer] * 3
    #27519782 -

If there's one thing I've learned from this thread is that the type of person who refuses to get vaccinated is the same type of person who will refuse to listen to reason.

There's too much mistrust, and that isn't something easily fixable.


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"Its moving of its own accord...and I like that in a shirt!" - Me, tripping.

deCypher said:
Schizophrenia beats dining alone, you know.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: spinvis]
    #27519841 -

Just some additional information.

My mom had the AstraZeneca.
My dad had the Pfizer.
My sister had the Pfizer.

No clue about the neighbors and my aunts and uncles. What I do know is they've all been vaccinated in the last six months and shorter, my sister last shot one and a half month ago.

So say what you will...

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #27519848 -

There is definitely something to the genetic susceptibility thing. I think we are going to find out that genetics plays a major role in who gets infected and who doesn’t. How do entire families get infected and others have never had a case amongst them.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: spinvis]
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spinvis said:
Just some additional information.

My mom had the AstraZeneca.
My dad had the Pfizer.
My sister had the Pfizer.

No clue about the neighbors and my aunts and uncles. What I do know is they've all been vaccinated in the last six months and shorter, my sister last shot one and a half month ago.

So say what you will...


Are you in Britain? There seems to be a new variant over there spiking your numbers.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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People this is going to keep happening. Get vaccinated and stop worrying about getting covid. It’s not going away and it’s only dangerous if you haven’t been vaccinated.

Everyone is being held hostage by these assholes who refuse to get vaccinated. We have to wait until they are infected or die before the pandemic ends and we can just deal with this disease like we do any other. Maybe we really
Do need to strap these people down and inject them. Just get it over with, holy shit 🤦‍♂️

Edited by koods (10/27/21 10:32 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Tripsurfer said:
Testing positive doesnt say shit


Today's posted numbers in CA = "4,890,036 active cases"

And folks wonder why there's so much distrust!  ~ hilarious ~

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 2
    #27519920 -

You think that 12% of Californians currently have covid? Do you have any common sense that would lead you to the correct conclusion that most states are terrible at maintaining an active case log because people are not monitored to find out when they no longer are sick. As far as I can tell California does not release a count of active cases, and any active case number is purely a statistical model based on the fact that most people clear the virus within ten days or are hospitalized.

Or maybe you would realize that California has seen officially 4.6 million cases and for your number to be accurate every single person who got diagnosed with covid still has it and then an additional 200k have it and are active cases despite never testing positive and how that just doesn’t add up.

So what do you do? You post a clearly fallacious number and hope nobody here is slightly smarter than a bumble
Bee and will debunk it for you.



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (10/27/21 11:22 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
There is definitely something to the genetic susceptibility thing. I think we are going to find out that genetics plays a major role in who gets infected and who doesn’t. How do entire families get infected and others have never had a case amongst them.


My SIL's family had lots of infected people.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #27519943 -

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Tripsurfer said:
Testing positive doesnt say shit

Vaccines have only limited protection against "testing positive"

Chances they get real sick or require hospital treatment should be low due to them being vaccinated


My oldest kid tested positive with zero symptoms


Positive PCR test without symptoms can be a junk test. You want to use a pcr test to confirm the symptoms you are experiencing are caused by covid. A non infected person can easily test positive if they are in the presence of people who are infected and shedding viruses and viral debris. A nasal swab PCR test can only tell if there is viral rna in your nasal cavity. It cannot tell the source or condition of the virus associated with that rna.

The only truly accurate method to determine if someone was infected is an antibody test and that isn’t accurate until a few week after infection occurred.

If you are in a house full of infected people and have no symptoms a pcr test is mostly useless in determining whether you are actually infected.

The antigen tests have the same exact problem. They are lower sensitivity tests but the viral antigens are much more durable than viral rna so they end result is about the same.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (10/27/21 12:10 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #27519950 -

To the people who are unvaccinated:

The only reason we keep trying to get through to you is that you are collectively causing ER wait times to increase drastically. I personally don't give a shit whether you get it and live or get it and die, I don't even know y'all. Not my circus, not my monkeys. But, hospital staff are being overworked even more than usual, and that's a problem for me and mine, so get your shit together and get vaccinated. (Or try to die quicker)


There are a few people in my life that refuse to get vaccinated and I care about them so I have two reasons to want them to see reason. But y'all can fuckin' drop, I'm over it.


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"Its moving of its own accord...and I like that in a shirt!" - Me, tripping.

deCypher said:
Schizophrenia beats dining alone, you know.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #27519960 -

Nearly all vaccines only protect against symptomatic infections. Measles and smallpox are the only vaccines that offer sterilizing immunity. Other vaccines people still get infected but nobody cares because in most diseases asymptomatic  infections are meaningless. You don’t have symptoms and are not contagious so who gives a fuck.

Coronavirus immunity doesn’t work that way. The vaccines and previous infections protect against getting seriously ill. Once you have the B cells that can make antibodies on demand, coronavirus infections get shut down very quickly when they occur. Normal levels of circulating antibodies don’t appear to be enough to stop any of the known human coronaviruses from actually causing infections. You need that massive boost you get when the B cells get activated at the beginning of the second infection process or the first infection after being vaccinated.

Maybe these boosters will do the trick and prevent infections for a few years. There are parts of the adaptive immune system that take months to fully mature after an infection and a proper vaccine schedule would take that into account when scheduling additional doses. Clearly 3-4 weeks interval is not long enough:


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (10/27/21 12:46 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
    #27520011 -

Isn't it crazy you typed all that, while I got covid-19 and survived without the experimental jab? In fact, I'm now much more protected than one of the subjects that was coerced into taking the undertested injection that has waning efficacy, and will further be deluded into thinking boosters of the same junk will help them


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teach your kids to recognize and despise all the propaganda

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: doubleD] * 2
    #27520013 -

doubleD said:
Isn't it crazy you typed all that, while I got covid-19 and survived


Sorry to hear that


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"Its moving of its own accord...and I like that in a shirt!" - Me, tripping.

deCypher said:
Schizophrenia beats dining alone, you know.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: spinvis]
    #27520019 -

spinvis said:
So the following has happened while I was gone on a retreat;

My mom and dad who are double vaccinated are now COVID-19 positive, tested 26-10-21.
My sister (and her child) who's double vaccinated is now COVID-19 positive, tested 26-10-21.
My aunts and uncles who are double vaccinated are now COVID-19 positive, tested 26-10-21.
Lots of people living in the same street as my mom and dad and who are double vaccinated are now all COVID-19 positive.

So yeah, it just shows the vaccines are not effective and not doing their work, oppositie to what they claim.

I'm still unvaccinated, and will stay that way, especially after this. Natural immunity all the way.

I'll probably get a lot of flack for posting this, but it's the truth.

For those wondering, I'm currently with my mom and dad (27-10-21) We'll see what happens and how it'll go.


If you haven’t been infected previously and are unvaccinated it’s really a bad idea to be constantly exposed to people actively shedding virus. You are relying on your innate immune response and it can be overwhelmed by the amount of virus you are being infected exposed to with no antibodies available to fight them off. Disease severity in naive people is linked to the amount of virus you get exposed to.

You really need to isolate yourself from them infected individuals. They’re vaccinated they’ll be fine. Your outcome is the unknown


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ima Trooper] * 2
    #27520021 -

Ima Trooper said:
doubleD said:
Isn't it crazy you typed all that, while I got covid-19 and survived


Sorry to hear that


Why do people who couldn’t avoid getting infected brag about it? So weird.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ima Trooper] * 1
    #27520022 -

Sorry high post count drug forum user, nature always wins.


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teach your kids to recognize and despise all the propaganda

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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It's not that I couldn't, I noticed early on no one that was young and healthy died from this lab made virus, and continued about my daily life as normal. Minimal masking and all those smoothbrain actions like keeping 6 foot distance from other humans


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