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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: IdiotCircusBoy] * 3
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They have better lawyers advising them


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: IdiotCircusBoy] * 2
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It really sucks when someone does such a sloppy job of inventing a confession to espionage. Kills the drama. It's not like it needs anymore than this though to get a following among Trump supporters.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Kwyjibo]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Can you quote what I said that warrants that response please?


Kwyjibo said:
I'm talking about all of the fraud conspiracy nonsense that you seem to think people should take seriously without any actual evidence to support it. People have been asking for evidence here for months and have gotten nothing. If you want a serious response then post serious evidence.


I knew you wouldn't quote something I actually said, so I'll do it for you:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
While I haven't seen clear evidence of fraud, what I've seen in many cases is something along the lines of a great many people complaining that they weren't allowed to watch the counting process, and then when asked if they had proof of fraud they said "no, I wasn't allowed to watch the process", and since they said "no", the cases were tossed.  Or cases were tossed because the courts said they didn't have jurisdiction.  So they didn't get tossed because we know there wasn't cheating, they got tossed because it couldn't be proven that there was cheating.  :shrug:


Yes, I'm willing to see any evidence people have, while you and others sit here and complain about it.  How do we know if the evidence is valid or not if we don't look at it?


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Let’s not forget this fraud conspiracy nonsense has resulted in Sidney Powell being sued for $1.3 billion dollars, due to her continued lying about dominion voting machines. All Sydney has to do now is prove her theories in court and she wins.


Exactly.  If she doesn't, she loses.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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So what happens if he refuses to leave on rhe 20th?


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: imachavel]
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Same thing thatd happen to you.:elmo:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: pineninja] * 2
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:[/url]
While I haven't seen clear evidence of fraud, what I've seen in many cases is something along the lines of a great many people complaining that they weren't allowed to watch the counting process, and then when asked if they had proof of fraud they said "no, I wasn't allowed to watch the process", and since they said "no", the cases were tossed.  Or cases were tossed because the courts said they didn't have jurisdiction.  So they didn't get tossed because we know there wasn't cheating, they got tossed because it couldn't be proven that there was cheating.  :shrug:


It's my understanding these people fell into two categories.
1. They were not official poll watchers.  There were already official poll watchers there and these people just showed up.
2. They were harassing poll workers.

Also, some of the complaints were along the lines of "observed pollworker roll their eyes" or "pollworker was wearing a BLM shirt".  They weren't all like that.  Some, I'm sure, are legitimate complaints that should be looked into.

Edited by IdiotCircusBoy (01/09/21 04:51 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Yes, I'm willing to see any evidence people have, while you and others sit here and complain about it.  How do we know if the evidence is valid or not if we don't look at it?


Bullshit, we've been asking for the evidence for months and haven't seen any. It's not that I'm not willing to look at it if it's there, it isn't there. At some point it's time to shit or get off the pot.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Yes, I'm willing to see any evidence people have, while you and others sit here and complain about it.  How do we know if the evidence is valid or not if we don't look at it?



If we can use facts as evidence, the facts are that there has been extensive confirmation of the validity of the vote submitting and counting process, including numerous recounts and vetting of voting systems, and no fraud whatsoever has been found. Over sixty lawsuits alleging fraud have been dismissed due to the fact that literally zero evidence of fraud could be produced. Vote certification has been done in all fifty states with extensive confidence. Any attempt to refute or gloss over these facts is conspiracy theorizing.

Are facts enough?


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Yes, I'm willing to see any evidence people have, while you and others sit here and complain about it.  How do we know if the evidence is valid or not if we don't look at it?


While we're at it, maybe you should apply your rules to yourself. You've made countless posts about Russia collusion while we still haven't seen all of the evidence yet. Why aren't you waiting to come to a conclusion on that until after we've seen all of the evidence?

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
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IdiotCircusBoy said:
It's my understanding these people fell into two categories.
1. They were not official poll watchers.  There were already official poll watchers there and these people just showed up.
2. They were harassing poll workers.


My understanding is that they kept official poll workers too far away to see anything, when they were supposed to allow them to be to be 6 feet away.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Kwyjibo]
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Kwyjibo said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Yes, I'm willing to see any evidence people have, while you and others sit here and complain about it.  How do we know if the evidence is valid or not if we don't look at it?


While we're at it, maybe you should apply your rules to yourself. You've made countless posts about Russia collusion while we still haven't seen all of the evidence yet. Why aren't you waiting to come to a conclusion on that until after we've seen all of the evidence?


What I've said is that there hasn't been any evidence of collusion yet, and that the Mueller Report confirms this.  I'll absolutely change my mind if evidence is brought forth, even after a 3 year massive investigation.

Why aren't you following your own advice that "at some point it's time to shit or get off the pot"?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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The title of this thread is Trump 2024. I think nearly all agree there will be no Trump 2024. Maybe a reality series filmed in Dubai, unless his legal issues prevent him from leaving the U.S. He definitely will not want to be living here, his family either.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Why aren't you following your own advice that "at some point it's time to shit or get off the pot"?


Because there's evidence we know exists that we haven't seen and have been asking for. We're not claiming evidence exists without any proof of it's existence.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Brian Jones]
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I would not be surprised if he at least runs in the primaries again, unless he's legally barred from doing so.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: psi]
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I don't believe he has a political future.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: DividedQuantum]
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DividedQuantum said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Yes, I'm willing to see any evidence people have, while you and others sit here and complain about it.  How do we know if the evidence is valid or not if we don't look at it?


If we can use facts as evidence, the facts are that there has been extensive confirmation of the validity of the vote submitting and counting process, including numerous recounts and vetting of voting systems, and no fraud whatsoever has been found. Over sixty lawsuits alleging fraud have been dismissed due to the fact that literally zero evidence of fraud could be produced. Vote certification has been done in all fifty states with extensive confidence. Any attempt to refute or gloss over these facts is conspiracy theorizing.

Are facts enough?


Did they not find suspicious activity though?  What about the Dominion machines finding a 68% error rate?  Do we just accept koods' excuse of "End of story. Clearly that expert was an idiot."?

And now we have new evidence of fraud.  Are we going to dismiss that as well, or should we maybe check into it?


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
IdiotCircusBoy said:
It's my understanding these people fell into two categories.
1. They were not official poll watchers.  There were already official poll watchers there and these people just showed up.
2. They were harassing poll workers.


My understanding is that they kept official poll workers too far away to see anything, when they were supposed to allow them to be to be 6 feet away.


Video evidence of that should be simple to get if you don’t have any after two
Months it doesn’t exist


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Those are some of the best words I have heard.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Edited by SirTripAlot (01/09/21 07:03 PM)

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