christopera said:

"Like, oh my god guys, Trump is too retarded to be taken seriously. Trump 2020!" - Trump supporters.

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That's seriously where we are at right now.

This guy is trying to tell us that since Trump said it on Twitter, it's no big deal.

It wasn't "formal".

He was just joking around.

Can't the president just joke about destroying our democracy?

Shouldn't the President be able to just have a laugh about taking the classic first step towards dictatorship?



I can't believe what an incredibly stupid position that is. I must be getting trolled.

The fact is, anyone who still supports Donald Trump, or would even consider it, is a complete fucking idiot.

Joe Biden could be in a COMA, and he would still be a better President than Trump.

Yes, I am talking fully comatose, totally non-responsive, drooling all over the place, vegetative state.

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This is twice in one day for you

Did trump formally propose postponing the election or was he just talking shit on Twitter?


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koods said:

Its gonna be hard even for him to talk his way out of the fact that this country is a fucking dumpster fire right now.

I am reminded of Reagan’s simple “are you better off now than you were four years ago.”

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koods said:

Its gonna be hard even for him to talk his way out of the fact that this country is a fucking dumpster fire right now.

I am reminded of Reagan’s simple “are you better off now than you were four years ago.”

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Enlil said:

Does it matter? Do you think it's okay for the leader of the oldest democratic republic to publicly suggest postponing an election when his polls are down? What message does that tell the world?

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imachavel said:

koods said:

Its gonna be hard even for him to talk his way out of the fact that this country is a fucking dumpster fire right now.

I am reminded of Reagan’s simple “are you better off now than you were four years ago.”

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Oh yeah also Reagen faced strong opposition. Otherwise that might have worked for him.

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koods said:

The GDP shrank at a annualized rate of 32% last quarter. There is no recovery around the corner until the pandemic is under control. He can try to bullshit all he wants and people as usual are incredibly stupid so if he blames it on the liberals taking votes will be like taking candy from a baby.

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Well yes when you put it like that

koods said:

imachavel said:

koods said:

Its gonna be hard even for him to talk his way out of the fact that this country is a fucking dumpster fire right now.

I am reminded of Reagan’s simple “are you better off now than you were four years ago.”

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Oh yeah also Reagen faced strong opposition. Otherwise that might have worked for him.

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It did work for him.

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Maybe. Is Trump wrong to don such an attitude? Not necessarily.

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koods said:

That’s all Biden has to say “are you better off now than you were four years ago.”

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/05/trump-reelection-2020-odds-biden-coronavirus-economy.html

This article to me highly sums up what I consider a good reason why it will be hard for Trump to lose. For Trump to win he has to consider what every bad President considers. That proving how he did not do bad is as easy as proving that anyone else would have done much worst. Ok so millions infected. Hundreds of thousands dead. GDP 34% behind regular annual levels.

Yet recovery rate is high. Death rate way down. Some states practically back to pre covid levels. The important states are not. Yet he averted the great depression. He averted 100,000,000 unemployed. He averted the Spanish Flu.

Liberals themselves who attack him point out how well he has done in comparison to previous pandemics in history which decimated populations and changed history as it was re written. Sure many of them centuries ago. Bubonic Plague. Smallpox. Spanish Flu. These were times of war where millions were dying and a disease just made it faster and easier. Europe needed to die. The American Indians were a strong contradiction to European conquest. Ww1 was ending and the depression and ww2 were around the corner. Yes we are getting archaic. Extremely. Hella archaic.

But by comparison Trump averted ww3 if Wuhan did indeed engineer the virus. He has saved 100,000,000 lives. He has saved 50,000,000 jobs. So a police department burned down well he saved hundreds of others from not burning down. He showed patience and allowed Jenny Durkin to dismantle CHOP/CHAZ on her own. Despite his temper.

What did Joe Biden do? Joe Biden cannot even remember what he did this morning. Does any of this make him a good President or do local governments taking strong control and citizens fighting through this situation have more to do with the recovery? Well of course duh the people pulled the people out as usual. First Responders. Grocery stores. The heart and soul of the country saved the country while police stations were burning down. Black lives matter sure but good vaccines and jobs and quarantine scenarios save black people as they save white people.

What the fuck did Dementia Joe do? He complained about Trump. Otherwise he did nothing.

Do you understand how this attack works on the mind of the average voter? Voters do not vote for a great candidate with a President like they do with their local Congressional Representative. They vote for a President that scares them the least. Sure No one here gives a fuck about Trump. Not you or me or anyone with a brain.

But to the average panic stricken voter Trump is the least scary candidate. I even agree. As awful as he is and as much as I think another 4 years of him will result in full blown viral war with China as this new biowarfare seems to be a strong alternative to launching nukes I see Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders as much worst horribly weak candidates. I would bet on Trump if money was involved as the major underdog draw.

What does Trump have that no other candidate does? The ability to easily manipulate people with no brains. The dark side of the force easily manipulates weak minded individuals.

Now what could Biden do to win? Prove that Trump will strengthen China with weak motives while China destroys our economy and murders our citizens. So far Biden is doing a very bad job of that. In 4 months will that change? Doubtful.

For Biden to win another 20,000,000 people need to die or covid and another 100 police stations need to burn down. Its just reality and I doubt it will happen. Also Biden is a horrible candidate to only be able to win in such a scenario.









Now about what Biden's strong points? He was Obama's VP. They procided over the greatest economic recovery in history. Legalised gay marriage. Added 20,000,000 jobs. Did not make the world face a horrible historical pandemic. Did not face ww3. Black lives mattered. They were strong among the liberal hearts and minds of the country.

But that was 8 years ago and 4 years at best. Voters think with panic. Trump hits that button. Biden lacks the charisma that Obama had.

I don't like any of these candidates but I like Biden better then Trump. But then again who the fuck am I? I am not fighting covid. I am not holding the economy together. While Trump really isn't either he just has to barely convince anyone he is the best man for the job.

For anyone to turn the world around on their opinion that Trump is the worst person for this needs to act fast and change the mind of the country now. Its beyond black lives matter. Its beyond a fast and fair response to the covid situation. It as simple as proving that even if Trump acted like a 5 year old in this situation that no one else could have done better. So far Trump is doing that very easily.