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Re: Sanders [Re: feldman114] * 2
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feldman114 said:
Okay, I like CNN but some of the questions were kinda gifts to Warren.

“Senator Sanders, did you really say to Senator Warren that a woman can’t beat Trump?”
“I never said that”
“Okay...now, Senator Warren, how did you feel when Sen. Sanders said that to you?”

Bernie kept his cool better than I did in that moment


He dealt with it in the Hillary run as well, so he prolly just got used to and bored with it

remember him being asked at one of the Democratic debates whether he was concerned that by running against Hillary he was obstructing the historical accomplishment of a woman becoming president

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Re: Sanders [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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More healthcare for less money seems good to me (unless you're very wealthy it might cost you more).  But to each his own I guess.  :shrug:


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Re: Sanders [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Right and that’s what worries me , I’m going to pay way more due to my income bracket , and I’m going to get less .


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Re: Sanders [Re: Psilynut2] * 7
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Psilynut2 said:
I don’t like Bernie because I don’t want to see my awesome healthcare plan I’ve worked my ass for replaced with a promise from the govt that it may provide something better . Seems like a stupid thing for me to want .


That's a fair point. For most of my life I have had good health coverage, and never any need to use it. I'm not just concerned with myself though. I'm concerned about people paying $600 for their insulin, or $80,000 for Sofosbuvir, when the same treatment is available in Pakistan for $300.

Bernie intends to make healthcare include dental care. All covered, 100% by taxpayer money. I'd rather my dollars go to that, than to one more warship, drone, or illegal assassination of foreign military personnel.

At the end of the day, the healthcare system doesn't work for the vast majority of people, and they give as much of a shit about your problems as you give about theirs.


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Re: Sanders [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Warren is such a piece of shit. The only thing that all this has done is just to make me hate warren with a burning passion in my soul.

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Re: Sanders [Re: feldman114] * 1
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feldman114 said:
Okay, I like CNN


You like Fake News spewing political/economic propaganda for the Corporate Elite?  :huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: Sanders [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
Warren is such a piece of shit. The only thing that all this has done is just to make me hate warren with a burning passion in my soul.


She has certainly left a sour taste in my mouth.


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders [Re: nooneman]
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At the end of the day, the healthcare system doesn't work for the vast majority of people, and they give as much of a shit about your problems as you give about theirs.


Ok fair enough , I don’t want to take anything away from them or make them pay more though . Me losing the healthcare I like isn’t a problem I have that I want help with , its a problem you are forcing upon me .


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Re: Sanders [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Bummer, dude.

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Re: Sanders [Re: ballsalsa]
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Don’t be mad if I don’t vote for Bernie then if he wins the nomination and loses to trump .
If he wins you guys are expecting allot from me , if he loses the nomination your attitude towards me and any other candidate is fuck you .


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Edited by Psilynut2 (01/15/20 01:17 PM)

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Re: Sanders [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
Me losing the healthcare I like isn’t a problem I have that I want help with , its a problem you are forcing upon me .


What do you think you'd lose under Bernie's plan?


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Re: Sanders [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Psilynut2 said:
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At the end of the day, the healthcare system doesn't work for the vast majority of people, and they give as much of a shit about your problems as you give about theirs.


Ok fair enough , I don’t want to take anything away from them or make them pay more though . Me losing the healthcare I like isn’t a problem I have that I want help with , its a problem you are forcing upon me .


I'm not asking for your help with anything. Circumstances change, and it's up to you whether or not you are equipped to deal with that simple fact of life. Your healthcare situation may, in fact, be as uncertain as a significant portion of the country.

The sooner you conservatives come to grips with the fact that it behooves you to give a shit about your neighbor, for your own sake, the better. If your neighbors didn't have a problem, we wouldn't be having this discussion, and you would have nothing to fear.

We're trying to make a correction that will ensure that you and your neighbors have firm ground to stand on, and therefore nobody is at risk. I hope that is an initiative that you can get behind!


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Anyways, anyone who thinks that way would change their tune pretty quick if they got pregnant or got into a car accident or broke their hand
Psilynut2 said:
Right and that’s what worries me , I’m going to pay way more due to my income bracket , and I’m going to get less .


How do you know this?  Your taxes will go up more than whatever you pay for premiums and deductibles and co-pays and whatever else goes on there. 

You know this?

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Re: Sanders [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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What do you think you'd lose under Bernie's plan?


The dignity of not being forced onto and relying on a govt program , to start .


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Re: Sanders [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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The sooner you conservatives come to grips with the fact that it behooves you to give a shit about your neighbor, for your own sake, the better. If your neighbors didn't have a problem, we wouldn't be having this discussion, and you would have nothing to fear.

We're trying to make a correction that will ensure that you and your neighbors have firm ground to stand on, and therefore nobody is at risk. I hope that is an initiative that you can get behind!


I’m not a conservative I’m a registered Democrat . I have a really awesome heath insurance plan that my union has been negotiating for the last 20 years . I don’t want trade it for a promise from the govt .


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Re: Sanders [Re: JohnRainy]
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Anyways, anyone who thinks that way would change their tune pretty quick if they got pregnant or got into a car accident or broke their hand
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I have a two year old , a 7 year old and I broke my finger back in June . I also have a very dangerous deadly job . Health care is very important to me .


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Re: Sanders [Re: Psilynut2] * 2
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Healthcare benfits are deferred wages.  If you already had guaranteed healthcare your union could bargain for increased wages instead of nebulous benefits

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Re: Sanders [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Assuming we are talking about Medicare for all, there’s no reason to believe you’d have to get rid of your insurance, especially if you have special job requirements.  It would be on your Union really. And if you have a deadly job, any accidents on that job aren’t covered by your health insurance any ways. That’s covered by workers compensation.


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Re: Sanders [Re: Psilynut2] * 2
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Psilynut2 said:
The dignity of not being forced onto and relying on a govt program , to start .


Thats a value that has been injected into you by the opinion controlling efforts of the establishment.  You've got to free your mind.

How is having a rapacious middle man selling health insurance more dignified than the people just providing it themselves?

Look at those guys in Canada and Norway and Australia and all these places.  Do they look undignified to you?  How much dignity do you think the 10s of thousands of Americans who die every year from lack of access to health have?

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Re: Sanders [Re: qman]
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qman said:
feldman114 said:
Okay, I like CNN


You like Fake News spewing political/economic propaganda for the Corporate Elite?  :huxleyfacepalm:


There are a few amazing journalists working at CNN. They don’t let the network’s agenda compromise their journalistic integrity, so I like and respect the shit out of them.
Ok, there’s like 2.5 (I’m on the fence about Jake Tapper lately) of those left but still...😬

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