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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Mycelium contains a small amount of alkaloids (hence why its illegal to sell mycelium or cultures of active species in america) but you would need an insane amount of mycelium to extract a usable dose, plus once its extracted it's not very stable and tends to degrade relatively quickly (check out a couple post about alcohol extractions and they all mention it degrading relatively quick)

I think your best bet would be to just grow stones in vitro on grain if you don't want to fruit any mushrooms :shrug:


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: herbnmyco]
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herbnmyco said:
ThePurpleWiggle said:
Yet takes 6 times as long.


6 times longer for probably 100 times more actives. Seems like a fair trade :jonespalm:


:whathesaid: do what you want. It will work but growing shrooms will produce way more goods. If you keep more batches going you can keep mushrooms growing and never have to wait:shrug: good luck to you:thumbup:


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: DnDRnD]
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If no one else will show me with some basis to thier confidence, that there are no species of psychadelic mushrooms with notable active mycelia prior to fruit. Then I will exercise my patience and attempt a few species myself when circumstances allow. I do not understand the ill will towards this concept. Where's the curiosity? Imagine if it was 1/5th the strength of fruit, that would still be mildly revolutionary.

Edited by ThePurpleWiggle (09/16/19 06:57 PM)

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: SFS96]
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I'd suggest doing some more searching on this forum.

There have indeed been people who have tried many ways to isolate the actives, but you know what method people use for that that has the most success? Growing the shrooms, then making tea.

It's a very strange request to ask people to experiment for you. If you are really curious about this, you should just get to the point where you can try it yourself and see what happens.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Stephie]
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:whatshesaid:


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Stephie]
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I dont know about 5,000 doses but at least 8oz per a tub using popcorn and a PC on a hotplate.

My rooming days are over.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Mycolorado]
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Alright then :smile:
But hey, if it works wonders wouldn't you wish you'd had some credit. I ask because I see potential for great benefit to the community at large and, initially to see if anyone could point out potential issues, as has been done. My thanks.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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ThePurpleWiggle said:
Alright then :smile:
But hey, if it works wonders wouldn't you wish you'd had some credit. I ask because I see potential for great benefit to the community at large and, initially to see if anyone could point out potential issues, as has been done. My thanks.


While it would be cool, i think technically wouldn't credit go to who ever first originally thought of the idea? If thats the case then none of us would get credit for it

It's actually been tried alot of times before although usually with LC not on agar


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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976

Shaperdreamings Shoebox Assembly Tek
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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Sure maybe some people would be excited over credit.

But my point is kinda just that most people here do their own experimentations and have a lot on their plate.

How productive do you think one would be if they just did experiments that somebody who is new asked them to do? New people tend to ask a lot, but are not a great source of wisdom on what to experiment on.

I hope this doesn't come off as aggressive. It's best to do your own experiments, it will help you learn as well as be fulfilling desires that you have (as opposed to fulfilling someone else's desires). It also means you don't have to rely on interpreting someone else's results, case if you do it yourself then you have complete control of the variables.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: DnDRnD]
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Absolutely to the original dudes who made the tek, but credit for giving it a go and potentially reviving a lost and forgotten teqnique of some reported power. Hey give it a go and you could be up there with p fanaticus.

Good points, it's on me to try, keep you posted when conditions ripen.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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Btw the thread that I refer to mentions the many failed attempts with lc and says why, goes on to say soft agar is far better than lc or hard agar. It's a fascinating read, should anyone care to actially read it.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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Beddy boo, it's 4:30. Goodnight all.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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I've been reading through it :smile: - There's a lot there to digest though.

It would certainly be interesting to see some success with it.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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You seem to think this is some diamond in the rough idea but it's not. It's actually quite the opposite. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel when you don't even know how it works.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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Just about everyone knocks what they don't try and don't even take time to read anything legitimate about. They mainly just proliferate speculative rumors from the populous. Ultimately, I am 99% certain that 99% of the people here Do Not have the means to produce anything beyond anecdotal evidence. And that, most of the time, they don't even bother to create that.



This is an excerpt taken from Mushroom Biotechnology: Developments and Applications. While most of the studies are of SFMs (sclerotia forming mushrooms), it presents the reasoning that many constituents are present both in the SFM/Fruiting bodies and their mycelium - sometimes higher in mycelium, sometimes higher in SFM/FBs, vice versa, and sometimes comparable.

This article summarizes about Enoki mushrooms, a saprotrophic variety that does not produce sclerotia :
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The  mycelial  biomass  of  the  tested  F.velutipes  strains contained relatively comparable chemical constituents to that of fruit bodies.


I'm not here to argue that psilocybin is or is not in comparable amounts in mycelium vs fruiting bodies, just to reassure the populous that mycelial biomasses are Legitimately empirically shown to have comparable chemical constituents. Because, obviously, there is some confusion about that.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: footpath] * 1
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I once boiled about 2 cups of colonized bird seed and I tripped good. But that same amount of spawn could of grown way more doses worth in fruits.


Ps. Boiled wbs spawn tasted like ass.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: mushboy]
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I was thinking maybe an active tempeh could be a wild thing to try tho.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: mushboy]
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Extracts are notoriously unstable if not handled properly, once you grow your 50 grams of psilocybin per week, you could easily bunk it all up and turn it into nothing weeks after extract.

There’s a reason why most powdered crystal ‘mushroom’ RCs are 4-Aco-DMT and not psilocybin.

On the other hand, if you wait a little longer, the mycelium will grow a protective container for you.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: StygianKnight]
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Like they say: If it works for mouse tumors...

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: footpath]
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That article about enoki and chaga was interesting footpath (particularly as the aunt whose place I stay at has lymphoma, growing cancer fighting mushrooms at her house is the only mycology I'm likely to get up to there. I agree extracting seems like a potentailly bad move, however, one could eat more mycelia, extract to a solid medium that provides a protective layer (maybe even extract with naptha, add a liitle water, evap solvent and add hard agar? Little psylocybe jellies, add some flavours :smile:

Herbnmyco, you're correct. I've no idea, and as footpath said, most have not the means to produce anything close to empirical results nor the will to try anything anecdotally. I admire your confidence and would like to see the basis of your certainty. I think it has not been explored sufficiently either way and that uncertainty is why I am interested. It could be a diamond in the rough, or under better light it could be just a rock of no value. I might try the dmt nexus and advanced cultivation section.


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