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How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek * 1
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So I found an old thread that refuses to be revived that details a method of growing huge quanties of mycelium on soft agar and extracting the actives. It had been lost in translation and beatifully rediscovered.

Yet no interest. I have no idea why. Maybe the title is too boring and the text too thick and off putting.

Here's the link. I think it's worth a look, but I'm an absolute begginer with first pf cakes on the way. So maybe it's useless. Keen to see how plausible you all think this is?
Edit: oops, 3am forgot to add the link https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7680813#7680813

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Hi all :smile:
I have never been an active member here or of the DMT nexus, occasional long time lurker. These threads referenced can be found at the bottom of the post.

I not long ago I found an old post of an older tek that had been long forgotten and thought to be bunk due to a reportedly terrible translation.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7680529

The Brack and Kobel method of psilocybin production.

The claim is that mycelium in some mushrooms (maybe not pan cyans, as one member showed a law enforcement study of pan cyans that tested no psilocybin prior to pinning, though consuming pre-fruited mycelium of Cubes anecdotally produces effect) is active, and it's speed of growth makes it a viable option for rapid actives production. The mistranslation is generally interpreted as myc grown in LC.
However, LC myc catabolises it's actives very quickly at exactly the one week mark and requires close and difficult (complex, apparatus for testing) monitering to be harvested in the small optimal window. The other common mis-interpretation is to grow on hard agar. This results in myc that is unable to penetrate the surface, thereby providing too thin a layer of myc, low yields.

The solution posed is that agar mixed to 1/10th the dilution of hard agar allows for mycelial penetration. and one ought to harvest once the myc has carpeted the surface.

Reportedly effectively done by Brack and Kobel whilst working for sandoz in the 50s, also effectively used to grow sclerotia and fruit from this substrate. The sclerotia is extremely clean and easily harvested, and the agar is rightly priced if using it at 1/10th regular dilution.

The corrected translation of the tek recieved very little interest, admittedly the title and body of text is offputtingly dense in the old post.

I am curious to see if this is a viable tek for producing actives at 6x the speed. (So much more in the fruit, I realise, still I see potential benefit here, grow bulk then and extract to another medium if eating heaps of myc is unappealing, the tek also mentions an extraction tek (I know fast degradation, make some agar jellies with it or mix it with some other protective medium, add flavours too :smile: )

I tried to revive the old thread to little avail. Then I tried making a post in the cultivation thread, mixed responses. A lot of ill will toward the concept. A good point was made by footpath; "Just about everyone knocks what they don't try and don't even take time to read anything legitimate about. They mainly just proliferate speculative rumors from the populous. Ultimately, I am 99% certain that 99% of the people here Do Not have the means to produce anything beyond anecdotal evidence. And that, most of the time, they don't even bother to create that."

Now, please, forgive my arrogance for making three posts on the same topic and necroing an 11 year old thread about an abandoned tek from the 50s. I am curious, and see potential benefit to the community at large, perhaps the advanced crowd will be more likely to share in my curiosity.

I will also post this to the DMT nexus.

I am a noob. I know nothing. I am in process of growing my first PF jars. I have no experience with agar. I am a student on government assistance who has just been kicked out of home and am shortly to live in a tent in the backyard of my law abiding Aunt. My pf jars have had to be moved to another location 3 hours from my Aunts. There will be renovations there in a months time for a month and a half. My jars will have to be spawned to completely autonomous bulk monotubs on my first grow.

I am an avid reader and have a lot of curiosity, that is just about all that is going for me as a cultivator.

If anyone feels any curiosity toward such a beautiful tek, a week, a little agar and some curiosity is the minimum requirements for some results. I believe that others may have favourable conditions, supplies and skills for such experimentation earlier than I will be able to.

Have a go if you will and tell us all how you go :smile:


Here are my other threads in the cultivation sections of the shroomery, the DMT nexus and again, the old post I refer to;

Look at this, promising anecdotal reports regarding growing strong, active azurescens mycelial mats on agar. Easier than sclerotia even and better substrate for sclerotia too.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7789758

Spent cake tea, effective -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14257992#14257992

Eating cakes and mushroom stem bases on surface of cakes -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14992441#14992441

Mycelium extraction teks -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/539138#539138

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4387553#4387553

General cultivation shroomery thread -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26191459/fpart/1/vc/1

Advanced cultivation thread -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26192695

Law enforcement study on what stage of Pan cyan myc contains actives, with pan cyans they found that it isn't until pinning, note, I've heard reports of other species that contain notable actives prior to pinning and this is the only source I found to say this about pan cyan, we trust cops right haha-
http://www.fanaticus.com/forensic.htm

The old post on the supposedly correctly translated Brack and Kobel method -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7680529


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Edited by ThePurpleWiggle (09/16/19 09:07 PM)

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 2
    #26191463 -

Its much easier and effective to just grow the mushrooms :shrug:


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: SFS96] * 1
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Yet takes 6 times as long.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 1
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Would go alright with azure or cyan myc.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 1
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As far as I'm aware nothing terribly useful can be extracted from the mycelium.  Many places do make extracts from mycelium, Fungi perfecti being one of them. Those products are pretty much bunk :shrug:

Actives are not found in mycelium, which is what makes it legal to grow in Canada.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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There are plenty of actives in mycelium.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
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So, differing opinions already. Maybe it'd be worth while to grow some azure myc on agar small scale and see if pre fruited myc actually has a psychoactive effect? It wouldn't have to be near as strong as fruit by any means for the 6x speed boost to be worthwhile.

Edited by ThePurpleWiggle (09/16/19 11:32 AM)

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
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Quote:
There are plenty of actives in mycelium.


Agreed.  You can trip from breaking up a colonized grain jar and soaking it for a little while in cranberry juice. 

The psilocybin producers guide is something no one has been able to get to work, AFAIK.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Mycolorado] * 2
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ThePurpleWiggle said:
Yet takes 6 times as long.


6 times longer for probably 100 times more actives. Seems like a fair trade :jonespalm:


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: JohnRainy] * 1
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True, but that thread ckeared up a serious translation issue regarding the agars softness. It only had 12 replies, leads me to think that the correct teanslation is very little known.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 2
    #26191512 -

So much speculation, an experiment would literally take one week. I may try in the not so so distant future.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 1
    #26191521 -

thread should b called how to go to jail in a week


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 1
    #26191528 -

There's no speculation. That thread is 11 years old. No one does that because there are ways 100x better. It kinda sounds to me like you can't get anything to fruit or you'd not be trying to extract actives from mycelium. Just grow some shrooms


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
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Mycolorado said:
There are plenty of actives in mycelium.


Plenty? I would assume that some would be present, not enough to be worth mentioning. Almost like saying that hemp contains "some" thc. I can't seem to find a source however.

Care to elaborate?

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 2
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Or someone who doesn't live in a tent in a rellos backyard, who has agar and experience working with it, has fruited at least a single shroom, could attempt a tek that was tried and reportedly successfully used to grow fruits and sclerotia on top of active myc (very easily cleaned and harvested stones btw, also sandoz was interested and effectively did it if I recall). Also my grow space is 2-3 hours away and theres going to be renos next month for a month and a half there and I will have to use totally autonomous monotubs for my pf cakes.

Please, can an experienced grower help to sate my curiosity and potentially pioneer psilocybins increasing presence in the world?


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 2
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Quote:
JOURNAL OF FORENSIC SCIENCES
American Academy of Forensic Sciences (1948)
Volume 45 - Number 3 - May 2000 - JFSCAS 45 (3)513-754 (2000)

Susan T Gross, B.A.
Forensic Scientist, Minnesota Forensic Science Laboratory, 1246 University Ave. St. Paul, Minnesota.

This project was supported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Minneapolis Field Office.

Received 26 Feb. 1999: and in revised form 12 May 1999: accepted 23 Aug. 1999.

REFERENCE: Gross ST. Detecting psychoactive drugs in the developmental stages of mushrooms. J Forensic Sci 2000;45(3):527-537.

ABSTRACT: The following questions regarding the detection of psychoactive drugs in mushrooms are
addressed: At what stage of the mushroom development can the psychoactive drugs psilocyn and psilocybin be
identified, and what effect does light have on the growth of these mushrooms. To answer these questions,
Psilocybe cyanescens Wakefield mushrooms were grown from their spores in a controlled setting. At various
times of their development, samples were taken and analyzed for psilocyn and psilocybin. Knowing what stage
of development the psychoactive drugs can be identified may be useful to law enforcement personnel and
forensic chemists. Methanolic extracts of various samples were analyzed by TLC and by GC/MS. It was
determined that the mycelium knot stage of the mushroom was the earliest stage at which the psychoactive
drugs could be detected. It was observed that light affected the time of development and the appearance of
these mushrooms.


If you're going all the way up to knotting, might as well fruit. This would be akin to saying that mycelium doesn't really contain actives.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
    #26191551 -

I and plenty of people have tripped balls off spawn. :shrug:  The study you’re showing was done on cyanescens.  Im referring to cubensis.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 2
    #26191554 -

ThePurpleWiggle said:
Please, can an experienced grower help to sate my curiosity and potentially pioneer psilocybins increasing presence in the world?


Again? Just grow some shrooms for fucks sake.  :wtfno:


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle] * 1
    #26191562 -

I'm on my first pf tek jars still colonizing (so slow, just made the hike to my cakes to drop of a heater), 11 years old with no reported attempts. The beauty here is the speed and ease of the tek, snd uses a tenth of agar as normal hard stuff, so the price is right. A week is all it takes.

Interesting source, yet still, it conteadicts the original tek, perhaps mexicana, azures or cubes would be different. I read a post of a guy done for have colonized cakes OG charged for intent to supply psilocybin, tests changed the charge to psilocin as no psylocybe was found, yet psilocin was.

I am growing attempting to grow shrooms for my first time 'again'.z


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #26191565 -

Roger that.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Mycelium contains a small amount of alkaloids (hence why its illegal to sell mycelium or cultures of active species in america) but you would need an insane amount of mycelium to extract a usable dose, plus once its extracted it's not very stable and tends to degrade relatively quickly (check out a couple post about alcohol extractions and they all mention it degrading relatively quick)

I think your best bet would be to just grow stones in vitro on grain if you don't want to fruit any mushrooms :shrug:


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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24126032

Pastywhytes No Pour Agar Tek (PastyPlates)
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976

Shaperdreamings Shoebox Assembly Tek
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: herbnmyco]
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herbnmyco said:
ThePurpleWiggle said:
Yet takes 6 times as long.


6 times longer for probably 100 times more actives. Seems like a fair trade :jonespalm:


:whathesaid: do what you want. It will work but growing shrooms will produce way more goods. If you keep more batches going you can keep mushrooms growing and never have to wait:shrug: good luck to you:thumbup:


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: DnDRnD]
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If no one else will show me with some basis to thier confidence, that there are no species of psychadelic mushrooms with notable active mycelia prior to fruit. Then I will exercise my patience and attempt a few species myself when circumstances allow. I do not understand the ill will towards this concept. Where's the curiosity? Imagine if it was 1/5th the strength of fruit, that would still be mildly revolutionary.

Edited by ThePurpleWiggle (09/16/19 06:57 PM)

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: SFS96]
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I'd suggest doing some more searching on this forum.

There have indeed been people who have tried many ways to isolate the actives, but you know what method people use for that that has the most success? Growing the shrooms, then making tea.

It's a very strange request to ask people to experiment for you. If you are really curious about this, you should just get to the point where you can try it yourself and see what happens.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Stephie]
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:whatshesaid:


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Stephie]
    #26191633 -

I dont know about 5,000 doses but at least 8oz per a tub using popcorn and a PC on a hotplate.

My rooming days are over.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Mycolorado]
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Alright then :smile:
But hey, if it works wonders wouldn't you wish you'd had some credit. I ask because I see potential for great benefit to the community at large and, initially to see if anyone could point out potential issues, as has been done. My thanks.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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ThePurpleWiggle said:
Alright then :smile:
But hey, if it works wonders wouldn't you wish you'd had some credit. I ask because I see potential for great benefit to the community at large and, initially to see if anyone could point out potential issues, as has been done. My thanks.


While it would be cool, i think technically wouldn't credit go to who ever first originally thought of the idea? If thats the case then none of us would get credit for it

It's actually been tried alot of times before although usually with LC not on agar


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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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Sure maybe some people would be excited over credit.

But my point is kinda just that most people here do their own experimentations and have a lot on their plate.

How productive do you think one would be if they just did experiments that somebody who is new asked them to do? New people tend to ask a lot, but are not a great source of wisdom on what to experiment on.

I hope this doesn't come off as aggressive. It's best to do your own experiments, it will help you learn as well as be fulfilling desires that you have (as opposed to fulfilling someone else's desires). It also means you don't have to rely on interpreting someone else's results, case if you do it yourself then you have complete control of the variables.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: DnDRnD]
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Absolutely to the original dudes who made the tek, but credit for giving it a go and potentially reviving a lost and forgotten teqnique of some reported power. Hey give it a go and you could be up there with p fanaticus.

Good points, it's on me to try, keep you posted when conditions ripen.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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Btw the thread that I refer to mentions the many failed attempts with lc and says why, goes on to say soft agar is far better than lc or hard agar. It's a fascinating read, should anyone care to actially read it.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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Beddy boo, it's 4:30. Goodnight all.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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I've been reading through it :smile: - There's a lot there to digest though.

It would certainly be interesting to see some success with it.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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You seem to think this is some diamond in the rough idea but it's not. It's actually quite the opposite. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel when you don't even know how it works.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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Just about everyone knocks what they don't try and don't even take time to read anything legitimate about. They mainly just proliferate speculative rumors from the populous. Ultimately, I am 99% certain that 99% of the people here Do Not have the means to produce anything beyond anecdotal evidence. And that, most of the time, they don't even bother to create that.



This is an excerpt taken from Mushroom Biotechnology: Developments and Applications. While most of the studies are of SFMs (sclerotia forming mushrooms), it presents the reasoning that many constituents are present both in the SFM/Fruiting bodies and their mycelium - sometimes higher in mycelium, sometimes higher in SFM/FBs, vice versa, and sometimes comparable.

This article summarizes about Enoki mushrooms, a saprotrophic variety that does not produce sclerotia :
Quote:
The  mycelial  biomass  of  the  tested  F.velutipes  strains contained relatively comparable chemical constituents to that of fruit bodies.


I'm not here to argue that psilocybin is or is not in comparable amounts in mycelium vs fruiting bodies, just to reassure the populous that mycelial biomasses are Legitimately empirically shown to have comparable chemical constituents. Because, obviously, there is some confusion about that.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: footpath] * 1
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I once boiled about 2 cups of colonized bird seed and I tripped good. But that same amount of spawn could of grown way more doses worth in fruits.


Ps. Boiled wbs spawn tasted like ass.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: mushboy]
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I was thinking maybe an active tempeh could be a wild thing to try tho.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: mushboy]
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Extracts are notoriously unstable if not handled properly, once you grow your 50 grams of psilocybin per week, you could easily bunk it all up and turn it into nothing weeks after extract.

There’s a reason why most powdered crystal ‘mushroom’ RCs are 4-Aco-DMT and not psilocybin.

On the other hand, if you wait a little longer, the mycelium will grow a protective container for you.

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: StygianKnight]
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Like they say: If it works for mouse tumors...

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: footpath]
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That article about enoki and chaga was interesting footpath (particularly as the aunt whose place I stay at has lymphoma, growing cancer fighting mushrooms at her house is the only mycology I'm likely to get up to there. I agree extracting seems like a potentailly bad move, however, one could eat more mycelia, extract to a solid medium that provides a protective layer (maybe even extract with naptha, add a liitle water, evap solvent and add hard agar? Little psylocybe jellies, add some flavours :smile:

Herbnmyco, you're correct. I've no idea, and as footpath said, most have not the means to produce anything close to empirical results nor the will to try anything anecdotally. I admire your confidence and would like to see the basis of your certainty. I think it has not been explored sufficiently either way and that uncertainty is why I am interested. It could be a diamond in the rough, or under better light it could be just a rock of no value. I might try the dmt nexus and advanced cultivation section.


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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ThePurpleWiggle said:
Also my grow space is 2-3 hours away and theres going to be renos next month for a month and a half there and I will have to use totally autonomous monotubs



But why? Itd be so much cheaper just to rent someones detached garage or shed, or a storage unit. Your times gotta be worth more than the small amount that youre harvesting  :doh:

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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: Je77Ce11ar]
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No money, recent occurence, safe space with receptive and curious tenants wh o can aid in maintenance. The train is not too expensive, and I don't pay for the space.

Look at this, promising anecdotal reports regarding growing strong, active azurescens mycelial mats on agar. Easier than sclerotia even and better substrate for sclerotia too.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7789758


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ThePurpleWiggle]
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ThePurpleWiggle said:
No money, recent occurence, safe space with receptive and curious tenants wh o can aid in maintenance. The train is not too expensive, and I don't pay for the space.

Look at this, promising anecdotal reports regarding growing strong, active azurescens mycelial mats on agar. Easier than sclerotia even and better substrate for sclerotia too.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7789758


Everyone wants a quick little shortcut to maximize results and minimize effort, but if something seems too good to be true, it is. Stop focusing on how to cut corners and put a lot of time and effort in if you want to yield lots of shrooms.

:freud:


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Re: How to cultivate 5000 doses worth of psilocybin in a small room every week Tek [Re: ChardRich]
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Have a look at some of these links and choose to be less ignorant than the majority footpath refers too;

"Just about everyone knocks what they don't try and don't even take time to read anything legitimate about. They mainly just proliferate speculative rumors from the populous. Ultimately, I am 99% certain that 99% of the people here Do Not have the means to produce anything beyond anecdotal evidence. And that, most of the time, they don't even bother to create that."


Here are my other threads in the cultivation sections of the shroomery, the DMT nexus and again, the old post I refer to;

Look at this, promising anecdotal reports regarding growing strong, active azurescens mycelial mats on agar. Easier than sclerotia even and better substrate for sclerotia too.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7789758

Spent cake tea, effective -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14257992#14257992

Eating cakes and mushroom stem bases on surface of cakes -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14992441#14992441

Mycelium extraction teks -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/539138#539138

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4387553#4387553

General cultivation shroomery thread -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26191459/fpart/1/vc/1

Advanced cultivation thread -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26192695

Law enforcement study on what stage of Pan cyan myc contains actives, with pan cyans they found that it isn't until pinning, note, I've heard reports of other species that contain notable actives prior to pinning and this is the only source I found to say this about pan cyan, we trust cops right haha-
http://www.fanaticus.com/forensic.htm

The old post on the supposedly correctly translated Brack and Kobel method -
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7680529


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Nah, Ima keep growing and eating shrooms via the old fashioned way of hard work and patience :greatjob:


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This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Some noob brings this up every few months. No one ever ends up doing it. Post your results if and when you do this and make us all eat our words. I have reservations that this time is going to be the one time in the last 20+ years someone actually does this. With all reasonability in mind this is shenanigans.

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