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Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety
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I went over 3 days sober recently.  Dr and family think I am sober.  Just to avoid their drama I let them believe their fairy tale imposition.

Tolerance can be a real issue.  Also I have a dr appt with the pdoc in two weeks.  As well spent all I'm willing to spend for the pay period.

This will be the longest sober since late winter, early spring or late spring.  Not sure when I started again after some brief drama.

I really need to shed some pounds as well.


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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Morel Guy]
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Sober from what?


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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Patlal]
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Booze.


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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Morel Guy]
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It really is tough to lose weight while drinking. Not only the empty calories, but who craves a salad after a rough night?

How much were you drinking?

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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: feevers]
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Enough

Went thru a 18 pack like water.  10 one day.  A 750ml og jäger in about 3 days with s 6 pack of great lakes oktoberfest.

Tolerance and budget are my main concerns.  That and not having drama.

Seems every time the recycling goes out, it's going back in.  I live a 4 or 5 minute walk to a drive thru with as much selection as the store with the liqour.  But the drive thru cannot sell full proof liqour.  Mostly a beer guy.  Wine is too slugish.  Liqour is too easy to drink quick, start getting heartburn, ect.

Did get sick months back.  Bought a $10 bottle of good cheap white rum and a bottle of gross cheap grain "vodka".  Slammed a bunch before bed and puked over the side of the bed.  Smelled awful.  First getting sick drinkng since my 21st at the bar.  I'm 37.


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"in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur"

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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Morel Guy]
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I just did three weeks. It got pretty boring by the end; I found myself avoiding social events to avoid temptation.

Still, it was a fascinating experience.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Well wishes man :mushroom2:


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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: watermelon mon] * 1
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I do that every now and then when I feel the need.  It's good for you.
Sounds like you've got some people that care about you. You are lucky


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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: DoneKildatReason]
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I was thinking the other day, I wonder if like hundreds of years ago or whatever opiates were more popular than alcohol and then opiates became the socially accepted substance of the masses. Like today would we have a multi billion $/£ herion industry that's regulated and taxed and would alcohol be looked down on as an evil substance that destroys lives?

Would you have casual users that were able to go out after work for a hit or go to poppy seed bars or something while the perceived scum of society were scoring bottles of cut vodka from dodgy Russian dealers.

I think people who drink that say they'd never touch drugs are hypocrites because imo alcohol is up there in terms of addiction potential, damage to health and damage to society. So, what if it was the other way round? Would there be people who would happily take opiates but say they'd never drink alcohol?


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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Bumholio] * 1
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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Bumholio]
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What you're describing is basically the places in the Middle East where regulation of opium has not been realistically prohibited for centuries and in some cases millennium. Those societies, while affected by addiction in the same way ours is affected by alcoholism, are not being completely destroyed by opiates as an epidemic.

Both alcohol and opiates have a long history of damaging societies they are introduced to with no historical background in usage. Both typically take dozens of generations to become something that can be used moderately by a culture as a whole, and always have outliers (individuals) that take it too far.

Distilled alcohol still negatively affects (in the broad sense of cultures as a whole) many Native American cultures who've only been exposed to it for a few generations for example, whereas other people of Native American descent who's ancestry has been exposed to it for many hundreds of years aren't affected by it as much.

It's likely that a doctor prescribing someone opiates for a toothache today may in all likelihood be exposing someone to opiates for the first or second time in their entire ancestry going back a thousand or two years, and that such people are not able to integrate the experience in a way that wont significantly increase their chances of seeking opiates after the prescription ends.

Imagine if you went to Afghanistan and convinced the populace against all religious beliefs to take up alcohol. The effects would be disastrous for the culture as a whole despite near ubiquitous opium usage.

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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: PatrickKn]
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That's really fucking interesting Pat. I hadn't thought of the middle east, and I've seen a program on TV about the effect alcohol has had on some native Americans and (idk the politically correct term) people that live in the arctic circle.

I'm about to start a piece of coursework in sociology about reformation of the UK drug laws so I'm going to read up on the middle east and opiates.:asianofapproval:


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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Morel Guy]
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I think my last drink was in the first week of July. I probably get more haircuts in a year than have times drinking. But I used to drink like 18 beer and 26er a week for a lot of years. It was just too much. I'm so much happier and better now.


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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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Yes but do you smoke weed?

Cause weed isn't an option for me for a long while.  Obviously cannabis is preferable.  Less toxic, more clear headed, not getting sick or hangover, no calories.  But it's expensive and the black market is sketchy.  Growing is by far out of the question.


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Re: Self imposed 2 weeks sobriety [Re: Morel Guy]
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I drank.  1 can voodoo Ranger Imperial IPA and 1 can voodoo ranger.  I see little prospect in being honest wirh doctors.  They have a total different reasoning than psycologist (who are the closest ever to a true diagnosis).  Mostly I think treatment is over paid Bureaucracy.

My sister had a seizure when mom was combing here hair and beating her.  My sister was cut by my mom weilding a tin foil box cutting edge.  I've had a bloody nose and kicked in the balls by my mom.  My back was so bruised from a beating from mom that a swim coach asked me.  Worse yet happened and a personality disorder is just the result of ptsd.  Cannabis helped me and they heavily restrict that in favor of their invested bainwash drugs that do not comfort at all.

So I drink and see no reason to be vunerable in HOPE that a historicallly abusive system will come to sane reason.  I never ever met another person that really felt there parent would murder them.  Oddly it happened to me when mom was dating a Cleveland cop.  We just got in the way of her sex life.

Dad's mom died on Christmas of '86 and she was the kindest person to me ever.  I was sexually assaulted in the early summer late spring of '87 by a male swk coach.  My cop uncle put me ij cuffs for whatever reasoh reporting to to him.  I almost died from a tonsil infection at that time and had emergancy surgery.

Probably a ton of stuff like feeling I don't even recall.  Got kicked out of the house when 18 cause mom cheated on her boyfriend she said she married and later married.  Blamed it on me smoking weed when she had no room for me, over ever even remotely acknowledging her violence over us.


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