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I don't like alcohol
    #2340879 - 02/16/04 08:55 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

It makes me sick and stuff
Granted I will drink a quality beer every once in a while, or take a shot of rum, or a glass of wine.. but I will never drink more than a couple beers.. because my liver will hate me because of it.. and I will have a tortured night worshipping the porcelain god... I get the spins VERY easily, and when I get the spins, I get the pukes. It only takes me about a 6 pack. Not to mention I just feel like SHIT and STUPID.

I can get a nice buzz off 2 or 3 beers.. and then I stop. What pisses me off is testosterone filled fools who call me a pussy for not drinking myself under the table. You can do whatever you want to yourself, but don't get mad at me for not jumping on the belligerent bandwagon.

I've never seen alcohol do good things for people. My uncle died at the age of 24 because he was driving drunk. A lot of my friends are alcoholics, and they turn into completely different people when they are drunk. It's really sad. They turn into illogical monsters, who would punch their own mother right in the face. It's never pretty when you see a 45 year old man with the mentality of an 8 year old, piss himself.

So this goes out to everyone who drinks. It's called Free will, you can do whatever you want with yourself, I don't care...but when you start pressuring people to get wasted with you, even when they HATE alcohol and you know it, just fuck off. Fuck alcohol. And please respect my decision to not poison my body with it.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2340893 - 02/16/04 08:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I'm the same, I used to drink loads but then I found it started giving me a headache after more than a couple of cans. Now I just have the odd pint or glass of wine.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2340904 - 02/16/04 09:00 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

It kind of sucks that we live in a society where you can feel pressured to drink even when it doesnt appeal to you, but you are strongly pressured NOT to use other substances that may be much more enjoyable and much less harmful to yourself.

Boo.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2340905 - 02/16/04 09:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I'm a light weight when it comes to alcohol. I have many friends who rib me all the time for not drinking as much as they do. I laugh it off and say, I get drunk cheaper.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2340908 - 02/16/04 09:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

really, if i was to judge a cover by it's book, I'd think you were a regular witht he booze shroomism...

I like booze on the other hand, but it does make me feel shitty


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2340911 - 02/16/04 09:02 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I used to binge drink in late middle school and early high school. We would go in the woods and chug 40s.. at parties and stuff we would kill half gallons of hard liquor in minutes.. chugging liquor... I got all my alcohol binge and purge out of the way early on.. after that I could barely smell liquor without wanting to puke.. and the thought of it makes me sick.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2340967 - 02/16/04 09:14 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I like to drink wine and champagne, but I can't do drugs. I feel the same as you when I am pressured to take any kind of drug, when I know how they will make me feel and I even explain how it will make me feel.

"All you have to do is keep practicing at (taking the drug, whatever it is) and you'll get used to it."

Um, no thanks. Drugs make me feel extremely paranoid. Not a good feeling to have, because feeling paranoid can send me into a panic attack.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2341023 - 02/16/04 09:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

im not too big on alcohol myself. every once in a while i'll drink a few good tasting beers but thats about it. i'm more of a psychedelic man


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Frog]
    #2341030 - 02/16/04 09:25 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i dont drink at all !
i hate the taste
i hate the feeling i hate the action of drinking
when ever i get drunk my add takes over and i do stupid shit
not to mention alchohalisim runs in my family so i realy have to watch out for that


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Infrared]
    #2341037 - 02/16/04 09:26 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

DeepBlue42 said:
im not too big on alcohol myself. every once in a while i'll drink a few good tasting beers but thats about it. i'm more of a psychedelic man



ur my kinda guy deep blue :grin:


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Infrared]
    #2341044 - 02/16/04 09:28 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

wow at least I am not alone. I prefer some cannabis or psychadelics over alcohol any day of the week.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: notapillow]
    #2341084 - 02/16/04 09:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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notapillow said:
i dont drink at all !
i hate the taste
i hate the feeling i hate the action of drinking
when ever i get drunk my add takes over and i do stupid shit
not to mention alchohalisim runs in my family so i realy have to watch out for that




I am more ADD when I drink, too.  It's pretty funny.  I have a pretty bad memory.  But when I play pool with my girlfriend, after a glass of wine or two, I can't remember what color ball I am from shot to shot.  She's gotten in the habit of telling me what I am as she comes back from taking her shot.  :grin:

But my brain runs pretty fast, which is probably why drugs affect it so badly.  Alcohol just slows it down.  A nice, non-thinking "slow".


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2341189 - 02/16/04 10:02 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

don't be around drunk people when you're stoned or on other psychedelics, notapillow knows what i'm talking about, especially on shrooms. :mushroom2:


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: telamahooka]
    #2341207 - 02/16/04 10:07 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Ah, I didn't think many other people were like this. I don't like alcohol, it doesn't give me any revelations or anything important I'd be looking for in a drug. Every once in a while I'll get drunk, but I really could care less for it. Hallucinogens are so much better and spiritual, and don't make me wake up the next day with a headache, or wonder what happened in those black holes of memory the night before.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2341209 - 02/16/04 10:07 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i'd never pressure anybody to do ANYTHING, i'm not like that. i respect people for what they do/don't do. i respect people w/ a strong enough will to go against the norm. i'm actually trying to be more like you shroomism and only drink a few beers just to get a nice social buzz. currently i am the type to drink myself retarded and i don't like how the situation results. i commend you shroomism.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2341234 - 02/16/04 10:13 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I sat down to my supper, 'twas a bottle of red whisky


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Ripple]
    #2341271 - 02/16/04 10:22 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

said my prayers and went to bed
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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2341539 - 02/16/04 11:12 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I don't like alcohol either. I've done too many regretful things while drunk and hurt too many people. Thats why I stopped drinking. The other day for Valentines Day, my husband and I tried to drink a glass of wine, (my first drink in awhile) and it was disgusting. I couldn't finish my glass and don't think I'll be purchasing any other alcoholic beverage ever again for any occasion.

And I too have faced friends pressuring me to drink even when I already told them that I wasn't a drinker anymore. Sadly, I used to give in to them, but now I don't talk to those friends anymore.

For myself, the 'illegal' drugs are much safer to consume in moderation, then alcohol, and are far more enjoyable.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2341877 - 02/17/04 12:18 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, over the years of partying i have done quite some damage to my stomach and liver and though i can still drink a lot without puking or anything, just getting stomach pains, it isn't really my thing anymore. most of the time when i start drinking i get too focused on getting drunk, and usually once i start drinking i don't stop. getting totally fucked up and then yelling/causing trouble/stumbling around and hearing stories of me doing so the next day isn't always that great

i'd much rather smoke bowls than drink, anytime. lately though ive been learning how to drink without getting totally drunk - like smoking weed and having a couple drinks goes along quite nicely.

of course.. the occasional full on getting drunk is in order.. but very seldom


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2342060 - 02/17/04 12:54 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

alcohol is just impractical...but man i love weed


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2342142 - 02/17/04 01:08 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

it sucks that all the legals are poisons for the body.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2342183 - 02/17/04 01:16 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Alcohol can be a lot of fun, it sounds like you're drinking with the wrong kind of people... anyone who calls you a pussy for drinking how much you want isn't a suitable drinking partner. I find how an alcohol buzz goes is VERY dependant on who you're around, much like a shroom trip. It can bring you back to when you were a kid, can make running around chasing your friends, and getting chased.. playing tag, swinging on swings, and falling in the sand, and laying in the grass staring at the clouds 10 times more fun. It can make a dull afternoon into an evening to remember :smile:

I don't like drinking in bars. Its not an indoorsy drug at all for me, and if I can't climb a tree when I want, I won't enjoy it nearly as much. Its not an unnatural drug, and in my opinion has its place with shrooms and pot... its all about how you use it. :smile:

Also, it does help a lot of people in some situations. "Social lubricant" is the most fitting thing I've ever heard it called.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Jared]
    #2342355 - 02/17/04 01:54 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

alright I'll give you that... most of the time I am very quiet in large groups of people, alcohol can loosen my lips a lot. Don't get me wrong, alcohol has its place, it's just not for me.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2342761 - 02/17/04 03:24 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I think alcohol is awesome. I'm a fan, for sure. People always spout off "it does reveal any revelatory information" and such. But guess what? The depth of honesty is insightful. It exposes certain character traits and the potential a person can be with a lack of insecurities. It can help a person mold themself into some one more confident, if used wisely. Also, if around warm and friendly people, it creates a bonding experience. I would always choose psychedelics over alcohol; however, there is a huge sense of elitism when comparing the two among trippers.

...not to mention the sex is great. :laugh:

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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: ergot]
    #2342887 - 02/17/04 04:01 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with you ergot axcept for the sex comment. Alcohol just numbs the senses and and takes a lot of the pleasure out of sex. Alcohol is good when you aren't getting any sex though. All in all I like alcohol a lot but it scares me because I might like it a little too much. Also I've done and said some stupid stuff while drunk. And alcohol recently made me fuck up what otherwise would have been a really nice first date with a cool girl (who I'll never see again). Psychedelics will always be my favorite but, despite the negatives, I'll always enjoy a good beer.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2343382 - 02/17/04 05:56 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I agree booze sucks and so do those who try to question your manhood for not drinking like a friggin idiot. I'm an alcoholic. I stopped drinking for over a year. But have been doing it again lately. I just lost my girlfriend of 3 years,, for being a drunk. I'm moving out at the end of the month... fuck em all!!!


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2343401 - 02/17/04 06:01 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i love getting smashed at huge parties

so much crazyness unfurls

but if im not at a huge party, i dont like drinking at all. I dont like the intoxication from alcohol really, just the chaos that follows :laugh:


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2343456 - 02/17/04 06:19 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I recently swore off hard liquor after taking 5 shots of Vodka and getting nothing but a minor headache.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2343771 - 02/17/04 07:34 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I hate alcohol. I can honestly say I hate it.

I know I'm pretty biased, but in a sense I dont think I am.. I've been on both ends. I was an alcoholic, and I've had to deal with family drinking way too much, way too often. I could easily say that the reason I became an alcoholic was because of family forcing me to drink.. it was sortve that way. They wanted me to be someone else - more open, happier, easy going.. what people often are said to do for friends "get drunk to fit in" .. I did with my family. Every one drank, and everyone wanted you to drink.. so I did it. .because it was the one of the only times I ever got along with family. Then I had problems in my life become more serious, and it became an outlet for pain.

So I tried really hard to quit drinking. I tried to do it cold turkey.. but it was hard as hell. Every thing I did with family "here drink a little, you know you want to" "come on Crystal, you're the best drinker in the family!" .. I mean.. Thats what my family does.. they get drunk or stoned together.

I hate them for it. They begged me to drink.. and it just makes you realize how little your family actually cares about you.. they tell you how funny and entertaining and outgoing you are when you drink.. and you realize that they dont like who you are when you dont drink. They make it hard. They say that you're just being silly, that you dont need to quit, you dont have a problem, one little glass one hurt..

You never realize how stupid drinkers are until you've been one, and quit. Just seeing how stupid it is.. people like getting drunk.. because it makes them act less inhibited? So we get amusement out of seeing people act like barbaric 8 year olds, or emotional lunatics.

I know alcohol isnt the worst thing ever, but I just dont see the point in it. I can have an awesome time without the influence of any drink or drug.

I had two uncles die from drinking while driving too.. they both ran their motorcycles into trees. Heh. I had a maternal grandfather who was a child molester, and a paternal grandma who was an abusive alcoholic. I'd almost say that she was worse than the child molester. Why? Because she did it all, physical abuse, sexual abuse, neglect, etc etc etc... she's so fried from all the years of alcohol.. its like talking to an illiterate bafoon now.

Meh.. maybe I'm just a little fed up at the moment ;p point is, I feel the same as you.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: acidcrys]
    #2344521 - 02/17/04 12:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2345159 - 02/17/04 07:17 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I only drink when I'm with my family, and thats just because they are a bunch of alcoholics that dont tolerate pot. 

Once, my dad accused me of drinking like a pussy. 

I challenged him to a little contest:

"Well, Dad," I said, "Why dont you and me go out to an east Texas cattle field sometime and have a mushroom eating contest?  We'll see who wigs out first."

My dad never accepted the challenge, but he never calls me a pussy drinker anymore. 
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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2345177 - 02/17/04 07:22 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, yeah, and I also hate it when I'm at a party and some ignorant, dumb-shit frat boy comes up with a funnel like:

"OMFG, dude, you HAVE to do a keg stand/beer bong."

I try to explain to them that I am on much better drugs than alcohol, but they never understand. I always have to run away to the pot room or else they will keep pressuring me and pressuring me until they just grab me and shove beer in my mouth (I have gotten in physical fights over this- which is absolute bullshit)

One day I'm gonna make one of those jock-ass fratboys do a "Liquid LSD bong" and see how they like it.


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2345294 - 02/17/04 07:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Liquid LSD bong! I imagine that is what heaven is like........... :laugh:


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: ergot]
    #2345308 - 02/17/04 08:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

not for some sub-80 IQ havin' dude wearin a "Beer University" T-shirt :lol:


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2346598 - 02/18/04 01:17 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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I prefer some cannabis or psychadelics over alcohol any day of the week.




I could have said that too
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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Shroomism]
    #2346684 - 02/18/04 01:32 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

drinkings not my favorite either. the only time i drink is at a party because i don't want to be stoned/trippin around drunk people. all i'm thinking is "what a bunch of obnoxious bastards.." Can't we all just get a bong?


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: ergot]
    #2347549 - 02/18/04 05:39 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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ergot said:
I think alcohol is awesome. I'm a fan, for sure. People always spout off "it does reveal any revelatory information" and such. But guess what? The depth of honesty is insightful. It exposes certain character traits and the potential a person can be with a lack of insecurities. It can help a person mold themself into some one more confident, if used wisely. Also, if around warm and friendly people, it creates a bonding experience.
-ergot




Huh, I've been thinking the same thing lately, 'sbeen helping me in such a sense in recent times.


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Offlinejustsmurfy
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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2353243 - 02/19/04 10:43 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with Madtowntripper (social pressure), Frog (paranonia, but dif for me), Centrum (Puratinism at work- I wish alcohol was calorie free and didn't fuck up my liver- like the SOHO image avatar, too- freaked me out once while tripping, though), Jared (yeah, good folk, good booze/beer, good times), and Ergot (Bonding/insight- I've had some great insights about myself and others, in a sense similar to pot and shrooms, but all three give different angles, and I believe that indepent confirmation is a wonderful thing).

My dif w/ Frog: I'm fairly self-concious, so I deal poorly with the public and people I know when stoned or tripping.  I feel like an asshole, which is about as bad as being one.  I try to keep my pot and shroom experiences personal and most desirably, out in the woods.  FYI/For your perspective on my perspective, I'm an athiest.

I think that moderation in everything, particulary in temper, is key.  The last time I took too many shrooms, I had to keep reminding myself to breathe because I was watching for jaguars in my carpet too intently.  Lesson learned.

I disagree with Today- In my book, generally if you talk to someone, you exert some pressure on them in some way- either subtly or not.  What you seem to object to is overt pressure.  Agressive pressure, if you will.  I realize you mean to talk about chemicals in specific, but I had to point that out.  People seem to have a disconnect between social pressure regarding chemicals and other activities which may or may not be a good idea, depending on the situation (e.g., ice fishing, nude cooking, bar hopping, nude sun bathing, sex at her folk's place, going to work, getting married, etc.).

I disagree with Kosmic Charlie- the odds are _you_ fucked up your date with this chick because _you_ drank too much- it's easy to blame a drug for lack of self-control.  No offense intended, but that's the way I see it.

I disagree with Slipknot 420- you're probably the party asshole (ok, one of many). :lol:

Ripple- What the hell is red whisky?

Hey, relax, everbody!  Keep it Smurfy!

-JustSmurfy


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Re: I don't like alcohol [Re: justsmurfy]
    #2353329 - 02/19/04 10:55 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

>>justsmurfy: "My dif w/ Frog: I'm fairly self-concious, so I deal poorly with the public and people I know when stoned or tripping. I feel like an asshole, which is about as bad as being one. I try to keep my pot and shroom experiences personal and most desirably, out in the woods. FYI/For your perspective on my perspective, I'm an athiest."

What did I say that caused you to say that you differ from me? Just curious. Went back and read my posts, and I don't understand how you being self-conscious differs from me. Are you saying because my brain simply slows down, and you feel like an asshole? (You're words! Not mine!)


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