ThePinMan said:

i am not planning on doing mycology in the future.

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That's too bad

LtLurker said:

Psilosopherr said:

Well, I thought it was cool OP. You never tried to claim it was an award winning yield, idk who makes up these standards and tries to hold strangers to them

edit: Man after re-reading this whole thread some of you really need to rethink your attitudes. Poor OP's just asking you questions and trying to learn and you're just dumping buckets of shit on him. Fucking congratulations for dumping on a mold cake. Did you SEE those original pics? This is an awesome thread, nut in yer eye

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My main sticking point with this was calling it success. Like I said before, it's salvage at best and getting 0 fruits is kinda hard to do. I've had to top fruit bad jars as well to get a print and continue a variety; but I'd never call it success, more like mitigated losses.

Someone else pointed out, if these kinda posts go unchallenged, then in a few months some newb will dig it up and think "oh myc CAN beat out the mold" and hold on to a horrible jar.

Despite sounding like I'm "dumping shit" I would sincerely like to see the op actually grow, and I'm sure they could do it well if they really tried.

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Psilosopherr said:

You'll notice nobody once ... answered the questions he asked about growing, all just shit dumping from what I saw.

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This discussion was almost entirely semantic from the beginning. I'm pretty sure any questions that OP asked were answered. I totally heard what they were saying and simply went about explaining why the community had an issue with what they were saying. Come to think of it this reminds me of our discussion on using proper terminology    through a lens of subjectivity of course, but I think that was made clear enough.

This is one of the problems with communication through text, there is no inflection, no body language, no audible tone. Things get lost in transcription

Psilosopherr said:

You'll notice nobody once asked the OP what his procedure was, or even determined whether he had poor sterile technique or not. Or answered the questions he asked about growing, all just shit dumping from what I saw, if there was any education taking place it was well hidden between heaps of shit. Everybody gets contam jars. This whole thing is a larf.

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No, I did answer him seriously and give direct answers to questions he asked. So did some others. I wasn't being sarcastic about saying i was looking forward to his future grows either. I can't say i wasn't bashing a bit when he was resisting criticism, but I did try to answer things as well.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25883347#25883347
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25842466#25842466

I guess we coulda asked about procedure and all that , but the convo kinda took the direction of will it work, not what went wrong.

Psilosopherr said:

LtLurker said:

Psilosopherr said:

Well, I thought it was cool OP. You never tried to claim it was an award winning yield, idk who makes up these standards and tries to hold strangers to them

edit: Man after re-reading this whole thread some of you really need to rethink your attitudes. Poor OP's just asking you questions and trying to learn and you're just dumping buckets of shit on him. Fucking congratulations for dumping on a mold cake. Did you SEE those original pics? This is an awesome thread, nut in yer eye

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My main sticking point with this was calling it success. Like I said before, it's salvage at best and getting 0 fruits is kinda hard to do. I've had to top fruit bad jars as well to get a print and continue a variety; but I'd never call it success, more like mitigated losses.

Someone else pointed out, if these kinda posts go unchallenged, then in a few months some newb will dig it up and think "oh myc CAN beat out the mold" and hold on to a horrible jar.

Despite sounding like I'm "dumping shit" I would sincerely like to see the op actually grow, and I'm sure they could do it well if they really tried.

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Sounds like an imaginary argument. Did the OP even use the word success or try to debate this with you? Probably not, even if he did nobodies interested in what you define success as except you.

People always say they're trying to save the noobs by bashing this kind of stuff but its a secondary motivation at best most of the time. More like justifying poor behavior.

You'll notice nobody once asked the OP what his procedure was, or even determined whether he had poor sterile technique or not. Or answered the questions he asked about growing, all just shit dumping from what I saw, if there was any education taking place it was well hidden between heaps of shit. Everybody gets contam jars. This whole thing is a larf.

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Hey, you understand exactly what i mean. from what i understand, you read my post and the fuzz and arguments following and you understood it for what it was. You are a rare gem. I read all your comment and i am really appreciating it. Here are some new pictures i took a couple of minutes ago. Still going strong. contam is still not pulling through.

staytrippy420 said:

Whoa whoa. slow down a sec... Things are just starting to get interesting here.

We are in too deep now to turn our backs on the OP... I really hope he changes his mind about future cultivation.
If not for us, do it for the mushrooms man they want to be grown.

OP you proved you can grow something now lets see how far you can take it.

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aaaah, C`mon... Dont do this i dont got time for that. You know its gonna happen when you put it like that

LtLurker said:

Psilosopherr said:

You'll notice nobody once asked the OP what his procedure was, or even determined whether he had poor sterile technique or not. Or answered the questions he asked about growing, all just shit dumping from what I saw, if there was any education taking place it was well hidden between heaps of shit. Everybody gets contam jars. This whole thing is a larf.

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No, I did answer him seriously and give direct answers to questions he asked. So did some others. I wasn't being sarcastic about saying i was looking forward to his future grows either. I can't say i wasn't bashing a bit when he was resisting criticism, but I did try to answer things as well.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25883347#25883347
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25842466#25842466

I guess we coulda asked about procedure and all that , but the convo kinda took the direction of will it work, not what went wrong.

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LtLurker said:

Psilosopherr said:

You'll notice nobody once asked the OP what his procedure was, or even determined whether he had poor sterile technique or not. Or answered the questions he asked about growing, all just shit dumping from what I saw, if there was any education taking place it was well hidden between heaps of shit. Everybody gets contam jars. This whole thing is a larf.

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No, I did answer him seriously and give direct answers to questions he asked. So did some others. I wasn't being sarcastic about saying i was looking forward to his future grows either. I can't say i wasn't bashing a bit when he was resisting criticism, but I did try to answer things as well.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25883347#25883347
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25842466#25842466

I guess we coulda asked about procedure and all that , but the convo kinda took the direction of will it work, not what went wrong.

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Psilosopherr said:

Funny that this is the same thread as that too.

I'm the minority here so sorry for causing a fuss. Whenever this debate comes up it fries my brain, just doesn't compute. I'll go away now.

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I guess i got caught up in all the fuzz

Pastywhyte said:

My problem is simply him saying that the cubes won. Won is definitely a pretty subjective term but I do tend to view it in the same vein as success. Now success is also a subjective term but in my book a few weak fruits is not a success. If the OP was setting the parameters of success as obtaining a fruit for printing purposes so as to preserve the variety, then cool. Maybe I missed that. But in terms of this being a successful cube grow in terms of yield, he may need to re-evaluate his rhetoric.

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Maybe the cubes didnt won by your definition to "winning" in general but imho they met the criteria for winning according to what this experiment was all about. that is where the misunderstanding comes from. It never was about yeild, i never said or implied that. But i will weigh them for consumption so let me know if you`re curious about the end result.

Psilosopherr said:

Funny that this is the same thread as that too.

I'm the minority here so sorry for causing a fuss. Whenever this debate comes up it fries my brain, just doesn't compute. I'll go away now.

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Dont worry about it.

LtLurker said:

Psilosopherr said:

You'll notice nobody once asked the OP what his procedure was, or even determined whether he had poor sterile technique or not. Or answered the questions he asked about growing, all just shit dumping from what I saw, if there was any education taking place it was well hidden between heaps of shit. Everybody gets contam jars. This whole thing is a larf.

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No, I did answer him seriously and give direct answers to questions he asked. So did some others. I wasn't being sarcastic about saying i was looking forward to his future grows either. I can't say i wasn't bashing a bit when he was resisting criticism, but I did try to answer things as well.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25883347#25883347
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25842466#25842466

I guess we coulda asked about procedure and all that , but the convo kinda took the direction of will it work, not what went wrong.

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Well i would like to thank you for having faith in me on a serious grow project.

staytrippy420 said:

NO MYCOLOGY?!!!!?!!?!?!?
 

I think we can all agree the OP can do better if he actually put some effort in... oh well, some people just aren't into it.

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Thanks

Mad Season said:

Perfectionism and flexing people are hella proud when they pull off a grow that is flex worthy. Telling those people that this is a successful grow after their hard work to make a sexy grow is pretty much scoff worthy lol. Like said, it's a testament to the fungus's resilience really. Just giving the guy some motivation to work more, and make everyone's jaw drop with an actual good grow, which I know he can do. Just gotta try again.

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juniperus said:

Dunk it once you've harvested everything. Take them as their ready, the one with the broken veil is ready. Blue bruising is normal and can appear very dark. Also, use the edit post button instead of octuple-posting

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