bodhisatta said:

watch out for those moldy oranges and bread too. cheese the most harmful thing in your fridge? find out tonight at 10

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"black mold" (I guess mold with black spores is too much of a mouthful for the layperson) gets such a bad rap. I love the stuff, personally.

On a serious note, the danger that Stachybotrys chartarum ("toxic black mold") poses really does get blown out of proportion in popular culture. It's not the bubonic plague, people...

Psilosopherr said:

the nitpicking of wordchoice in mycology never fails to amuse me. I'll go on a rant in lighthearted jest

actually, only the spores are black/green. So while black/green mold is the most popular/readily understood term for this organism I'm going to declare it wrong based on a biological technicality. And to top it all off I won't offer an alternative term, because there would be no obvious informal name for these organisms unless we plan to formally identify them down to the species and use the latin names, which would be beyond pointless.

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Well, I will respond in lighthearted jest. The Latin binomial system was adopted specifically because of common names are often non-specific misnomers. Should we just call them trippy mushrooms? Is identifying them as Psilocybe cubensis pointless? Anyone who is serious about a subset of biology, like mycology, will learn the latin binomials of the species they are studying, because that is the only way to accurately label a singular species. Anyway, whether or not something is a misnomer can be largely a matter of opinion. ("use of a wrong or inappropriate name")

Psilosopherr said:

The sky's not blue, thats a common misconception, its actually reflected light..I correct people on this constantly and am highly regarded as a result. Its also gotten me laid a couple times.

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Psilosopherr said:

Actually thats not a green plant, thats just chlorophyll

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That's a reflection

Psilosopherr said:

Its not mushroom piss, its secondary metabolites. Colloquial names for things are blasphemous and should be discarded en mass to improve colonization times.

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OOOooooh, don't get RR started on that one . It's not a bad thing to attempt to use correct terminology. "Myc piss" is just stupid, honestly.

Psilosopherr said:

I read these posts in the voice of that generic nerdy kid from cartoons with the exaggerated lisp. ... I'm not trying to be rude here.

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You need not try, apparently! Can't go on a rant without exposing yourself to critique

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Well, I will respond in lighthearted jest. The Latin binomial system was adopted specifically because of common names are often non-specific misnomers. Should we just call them trippy mushrooms? Is identifying them as Psilocybe cubensis pointless? Anyone who is serious about a subset of biology, like mycology, will learn the latin binomials of the species they are studying, because that is the only way to accurately label a singular species. Anyway, whether or not something is a misnomer can be largely a matter of opinion. ("use of a wrong or inappropriate name")

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OOOooooh, don't get RR started on that one . It's not a bad thing to attempt to use correct terminology. "Myc piss" is just stupid, honestly.

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You're so right. I shouldn't criticize your terminolgy as you shouldn't criticize mine. I think we've reached a compromise friend!

I like myc piss because everybody knows what you're talking about when you say myc piss, which is the only quality I want in a name. I don't get squeamish about using the word piss

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You need not try, apparently! Can't go on a rant without exposing yourself to critique

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got me there, still finding that line.

I knew somebody would grill me for some misphrasing about the sky being blue/plants being green. You got me

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I think part of where people take issue with "bad" terminology like "myc piss" is because we want to hold the community to a higher standard of learning.

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When I was a kid, I had teachers tell me that if I picked up a book and didn't understand five or more words on a single page, I should give up on reading that book. Fuck that.

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JBravo said:

So... I'm pretty sure mycelium can over take mold, and it appears to be doing that. I'm not an expert by any means...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express 🤣
No for real though I've read all of Stamets books and I recall him have a contaminated cake and buried it and the mycelium totally wiped out all signs of contams and fruited really well..
And since our fabulous fungal friends can even decompose toxic substances and produce mushrooms 100% edible...I don't think it's crazy to not totally give up on your grow. That said.... I probably wouldn't open that shit up in your house... Be safe use proper equipment... Don't want that shit getting in your lungs. Be smart, be safe, no reason to take unnecessary risks.... I'd take it outside and bury it... Wearing a mask and gloves lol.
Whatever you keep us informed! Let's take back this hijacked thread! 😋

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LtLurker said:

No, it's fucked. You just can't see it. Cube myc doesn't"beat" other molds.

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bodhisatta said:

A handful of sad pins isn't success or winning by most people's metrics

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juniperus said:

Dude, the mold is still there. The fact that you managed to get some sickly looking fruits out of that cake doesn't change that.

That's like if I was diagnosed with ALS, but was adamant that "hey, I can still stand!". Sure, but in the long run I'm fucked.

Just saying the premise of this thread was a question. That question was answered by some of the most experienced people on this forum (myself not included, of course), and you still don't believe them? Why are you here then?

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juniperus said:

A dying tree can still produce fruit. Reproduction is often an organisms response if its life is threatened.

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Did the cubes win in that one too?

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ThePinMan said:

Those cubes look healthy

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ThePinMan said:

LtLurker said:

No, it's fucked. You just can't see it. Cube myc doesn't"beat" other molds.

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Check it out

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gizmodo said:

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juniperus said:

ThePinMan said:

Those cubes look healthy

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LtLurker said:

ThePinMan said:

LtLurker said:

No, it's fucked. You just can't see it. Cube myc doesn't"beat" other molds.

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Check it out

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Still sickly.

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LtLurker said:

Pins look thinner than typical imo. And all that mold you showed before is still just below the surface waiting to come out.

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Psilosopherr said:

ha cool. Sure looks like mycelium to me.

I've got some azurescens duking it out with black mold right now on a brf cake. The jar was about 50/50 at the start of the fight, should be a nice clean match.

cubes i'm assuming?

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Mycelium won

Psilosopherr said:

have fun with it, see what happens

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I did! mushrooms growing on it right now

ThePinMan said:

juniperus said:

ThePinMan said:

Those cubes look healthy

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? i dont see any mold on them or anything

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P. cubensis (what we call a "cube" for short) is the entire organism you are trying to cultivate. The organism in that photo (and yours) is unhealthy. Just because an organism can attempt to reproduce doesn't mean it's healthy.

I could keep making analogies but it's not seeming to help you understand what we're saying.

Leon Sabanna said:

Acting like those cakes are not F’d makes you sound a bit foolish. You are happy to throw the pins in everyone’s face as a “see look how wrong you guys were”. Since you kept them around as a experiment I hope you will continue to publish the results of these cakes regardless of the outcome.

Good bad or ugly, please let us know what kind of harvest you end up with.

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juniperus said:

I guess it's the fact that you keep saying "win". Barely surviving is not "winning" to many of us

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juniperus said:

I guess it's the fact that you keep saying "win". Barely surviving is not "winning" to many of us

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If you manage to get a print it's salvage at best, imo.

It's hard to get 0 mushrooms. The goal of cultivating is good results. So we all see a couple sickly shrooms as failure from a cultivating perspective. In the wild, cubes have crappy results trying to grow along with contams all the time.