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Trump has the best words * 1
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I really get a kick out of reading transcripts of Trump speeches, press conferences and interviews. It’s always a shit show, especially when he goes off the prompter. The rambling style he has when speaking extemporaneously sounds disorganized and sometimes incomprehensible. The written version is ten times more hilarious.

Post your favorite examples of Trump in print.

Here’s a few from last nights New York Times interview.

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HABERMAN: Did you tell General Kelly or anyone else in the White House to overrule security officials? The career veterans —

TRUMP: No. I don’t think I have the authority to do that. I’m not sure I do.

Haberman: You do have the authority to do it.

Trump: But I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t do it.

HABERMAN: O.K.

TRUMP: Um, Jared is a good —

HABERMAN: You never —

TRUMP: I was never involved with the security. I know that he — you know, just from reading — I know that there was issues back and forth about security for numerous people, actually. But I don’t want to get involved in that stuff.

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HABERMAN: O.K. Why would you want to — why stay out? You do have the authority to —

TRUMP: I don’t know. I just don’t — I just, I never thought it was necessary. I also know him. He’s a very solid person, and I just can’t imagine he would have — I guess even, Ivanka, they, they, I heard that, uh, something with Jared and Ivanka —

HABERMAN: Mhm.

TRUMP: But, uh, I don’t believe I’ve ever met any of the national security — of the people that would do clearances. Um, and there’d be nothing wrong, I don’t think, with me calling them up to the Oval Office and say, “Hey give these people, you know, clearances” —

HABERMAN: You just told me — [inaudible]

TRUMP: Yeah, yeah, so there, I, I mean, I take back the other — I didn’t, I was answering a little bit different question. Uh, I have the right to do it, but I never thought it was necessary, Maggie. I never thought it was necessary.

HABERMAN: And you didn’t direct General Kelly or anyone like that to do it?

TRUMP: No. And, and frankly, I never thought it was necessary to do so.




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TRUMP: So I’ll tell you a story that just happened. So it just happened. [To an aide] Will you get that thing we just sent out? Will you do that? I had a meeting — and bring the picture in, bring the picture — so I had a meeting with Gina [Haspel] who’s very good and [Dan] Coats. And I was shocked and I was surprised because I saw it on television and I said, “Iran is a bad actor because if you read what they said.”

HABERMAN: You mean you saw her testimony?

TRUMP: Yeah. I said, “Iran is a bad actor.” And I could tell you stories of things that we were going to do to them as recently as a week ago. I said, “Iran is a very bad actor. What’s this like Iran is kindergarten stuff?” They said, “Sir, we never said it.” I said, “What are you talking about?”

Then I said, “And ISIS — we almost have the caliphate 100 percent. What are you talking about?” Like ISIS has got — and I mean, I’m not, by the way — the defeat is an interesting word. Because you can say you have the caliphate, but you’re always going to have people that escape the caliphate and you’ll have people around. There’s nothing — but that doesn’t mean you’re going to keep your armies there and everything. Because you’re always going to have that. Somebody is going to walk into a store unfortunately.

But I said, “What is that all about? Second of all, third of all, you know how well we’re doing with North Korea, what’s that?”


They said, “Sir, our testimony was totally mischaracterized.” I said, “What are you talking about?” And when you read their testimony and you read their statements, it was mischaracterized by the media.

HABERMAN: The media mischaracterized it?

TRUMP: You know what I mean. Because when you read their statement, it’s not like it was portrayed in the media. Because I came in —

HABERMAN: What did they think they were saying? What did they tell you that they were —

TRUMP: When you see what they said, and they’re, they’re — let’s put it this way. It was really very different when I read it. Because I came in here saying what is this? You mean you’re — because one of the things they said very strongly, according to, was that Iran is, essentially, a wonderful place. And I said, “It’s not a wonderful place, it’s a bad place, and they’re doing bad things.”

And they said, “We agree.” I said, “What do you mean you agree. You can’t agree —” And they said the testimony.

HABERMAN: So you’re happy with Dan Coats?

TRUMP: I’m happy with Dan Coats. I am. That doesn’t mean —

HABERMAN: Is that a change?

TRUMP: Well, no, everybody changes. You know, this business, other than me, everybody changes. You know, if you look at my staff.

So I wish you could have been here before. Because we had this whole side of the room with secretaries, every one of them. Sonny Perdue. Linda McMahon, big, a big sleeper, she’s phenomenal. Somebody said, she’s one of our best — you know and you don’t ever hear about her or anything. We had Mike Pompeo. We had all of our secretaries, many of our secretaries here, probably half of them.

And then you had the China group over here, the delegation. And I’m looking and I’m saying these are really outstanding people. They’re outstanding. Did you notice that today? How outstanding? We have a lot of great people.

Now I do tell the story about driving down Pennsylvania Avenue, you know. Because I’d been in Washington probably 17 times in my life. And on the 18th time, I was president of the United States. And you know, Washington wasn’t really my place. And I didn’t know people. I didn’t know a lot of people. And I got — I put some people in that I wasn’t happy with and I put some people in that I was very happy with.

But we’ve gotten it very — you know, as I’ve — now I know a lot of people.




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TRUMP: So let me tell you about about Trump Tower Moscow. This was a very unimportant deal. This was a very unimportant deal. No. 1. No. 2, this was a deal, the only thing you heard is through Rudy [Giuliani]. Is that what you heard? Through Rudy?

BAKER: More recently we heard through Rudy, he quotes you.

TRUMP: Rudy was incorrect. No. 1, he was incorrect, and we’ve explained that, he was wrong. Rudy has been wrong. A little bit. But what has happened is this. I didn’t care. That deal was not important. It was essentially a letter of intent or an option. I’m not even sure that they had a site. And if you look at where that was sent to, that was a Michael Cohen thing. If you look, I always say, Why don’t you bring this up, to Jay Sekulow, good guy. I think it was sent to almost like a public address for Moscow. If you take a look at it. Take a good solid look. The original letter or something was sent. They didn’t even have anybody to send it to. But that deal is just like other deals. I was doing other deals. I was running for president, but I was also running a business.

BAKER: How late do you remember having any conversations about it in 2016? What was the latest that you remember?

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TRUMP: I would say it was early to middle of the year. Now, I don’t know that Cohen didn’t go a little bit longer than that. I don’t think it would be much longer. But then he could have come back to me and said, “Listen, I put it together.” Because that stuff happens. You know, you think a deal — I was running for president, I was doing really well. The last thing I cared about was building a building.

BAKER: But you told people that you didn’t have any business there. People might have misunderstood.

TRUMP: That wasn’t business. Peter, that wasn’t business.

BAKER: Isn’t that misleading to say you weren’t pursuing business there, right?

[Crosstalk]

TRUMP: I had no money invested. It was a letter of intent, or option. It was a free option. It was a nothing. And I wasn’t doing anything. I don’t consider that even business. And frankly, that wasn’t even on my radar. If you take a look at that, take a look at the deal. There was no money put up. There was no transfer. I don’t think they had a location. I’m not even sure if they had a location.

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BAKER: Clearly there was a hope of having money. That was the reason you were pursuing it, right?

TRUMP: My point is this — It was a free option to look at a deal, to look at deals. That was not like, “I’m going to buy a property in Moscow. I’m going to do — or I’m building a building in Moscow.” Now, I would have had every right to do a deal. That’s what I did. That’s what I did.

Rudy was wrong in that he went — I think what Rudy was looking at, I think, was that in the statement I made to the Mueller group, we talked about during that period of a year, up until the election, we talked about that. So he may have been referring to that.

But the way I view it is early in the year to middle of the year, no interest. I had very little interest in the first place, and again, I viewed it as a free option. It may have been a letter of intent. I don’t know exactly what it was called. But it was unimportant. And you know what was very important to me? Running for president. And doing well. But I was running a business. I mean, I would have been allowed to build 20 buildings. I was doing other things. I was doing a lot of other things. I was running a business. Because as you would know, there weren’t a lot of people at the time that thought I was going to win. So I don’t want to give up a year and a half of my life, not do anything, run for president, then have to go back and say, you know, “I could have kept running my business.”

Very interestingly, you know, George Washington ran his business. You can, I guess, you can go long beyond the election, if you wanted to. You know. But I didn’t do that.

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BAKER: But there’s a difference between running a domestic business and being possibly in business with Russian figures at the same time, right? You can imagine why people might find that concerning?

TRUMP: I have nothing. All I did was be a good candidate. Russia didn’t help me. Russia did not help me. There was no collusion. There was none of that. I was a good candidate. I did a good job. I won’t say whether she was a good candidate or not. I mean, the primary collusion was Hillary Clinton. If you take a look, Peter. I mean, look at that phony dossier. Some of that money, they say, went to Russia. [Tony] Podesta was involved with Russia. You look at the kind of relationships they had. They had real relationships with Russia. I had a potential, a deal that frankly wasn’t even a deal. It was literally — I viewed it as an option. But maybe it was called a letter of intent. Something like that.




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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: koods] * 1
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I’m glad you’re enjoying it because there will likely be 6 more years of it.


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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: JizzMasterZero]
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:lol:


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: koods]
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I had a potential deal that frankly wasn’t even a deal



This man can’t even keep his story straight within an 11 word sentence.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: JizzMasterZero]
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6 more years of Trump is the best thing that could happen, but unless the Dems royally fuck it up, which there is like a 40% chance they will, he won't return.

I personally hope he does return. That way in 2024 a Dem Senate would get voted in while holding a Dem House. In 2024 we'd get a Dem president. And with Donald being a totally unforgettable retard, we could at least hope for one term where Dems hold all three branches and we could turn this ship around. Sure it's playing the long game, but if things are going to change (universal health care, elimination of the deficit, strengthening of the middle class, environmental protections), this is what it will take.

Also, you knew it was coming. Trump telling a story about speaking to a sailor in regards to launching planes from aircraft carriers:

Quote:
"You know the catapult is quite important. So I said, 'What is this?' 'Sir, this is our digital catapult system.' He said, 'Well, we're going to this because we wanted to keep up with modern [technology].' I said, 'You don't use steam anymore for catapult?' 'No sir.' I said, 'Ah, how is it working?' 'Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn't have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going, and steam's going all over the place. There's planes thrown in the air.'

"It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it's very complicated; you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said — and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said, 'What system are you going to be —' 'Sir, we're staying with digital.' I said, 'No you're not. You're going to goddamned steam. The digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money, and it's no good.'"



The man is clearly developmentally delayed. Who doesn't know what digital is? We learn to count on our digits. It's that fucking simple.

The worst part, when you see the actual exchange he had with the sailor, it went nothing like what he describes above. The sailor says that electromagnetic system is better and explains that electromagnetic systems are more easily packaged in the ship while also explaining that Albert Einstein's expertise really only applies to the reactor on board. Trump got schooled and then lied about it.


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A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

I’m sorry it had to be me.

Edited by christopera (02/01/19 07:01 AM)

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: christopera]
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Trump is too dangerous for another 6 years. We’re withdrawing from arms control treaties now.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: christopera] * 1
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That is the scariest thing about trump. He thinks he knows more than everyone else, when in reality he’s one of the most ignorant and uneducated adults I’ve ever witnessed.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: koods]
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The scary part about 4 more years of Trump is the Senate remaining Republican as well. But, I think they are starting to jump ship on him. The Syria pullout being the latest rift. So, with some infighting there we might get by. Also, he's like the laziest president in history, let him stew away for another year or two and he'll have totally given up.


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Enjoy the process of your search without succumbing to the pressure of the result.

A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: koods]
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A couple weeks ago, someone posted a pic of AOC to r/the_donald, the pic had text on it.  It was a quote, claiming to be something that AOC said.  But it was really a Trump quote in disguise.  And the posters there read the quoted, believed it to be from AOC, and started talking about how she’s unfit for office, how she “sounds like a blathering idiot”, etc.  When it was eventually revealed to be a Trump quote and not AOC, the mods there deleted all the comments and locked it up.  It was funny to see how they know that Trump’s best words are moronic, but they love to hear them from him.

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: Burke Dennings]
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/r/the_donald when it was started was basically nothing but posts like that. It was awesome. Then somehow people started to actually want him to be president and the sub went down hill fast.


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Enjoy the process of your search without succumbing to the pressure of the result.

A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

I’m sorry it had to be me.

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
6 more years of Trump is the best thing that could happen, but unless the Dems royally fuck it up, which there is like a 40% chance they will, he won't return.

I personally hope he does return. That way in 2024 a Dem Senate would get voted in while holding a Dem House. In 2024 we'd get a Dem president. And with Donald being a totally unforgettable retard, we could at least hope for one term where Dems hold all three branches and we could turn this ship around. Sure it's playing the long game, but if things are going to change (universal health care, elimination of the deficit, strengthening of the middle class, environmental protections), this is what it will take.

Also, you knew it was coming. Trump telling a story about speaking to a sailor in regards to launching planes from aircraft carriers:

Quote:
"You know the catapult is quite important. So I said, 'What is this?' 'Sir, this is our digital catapult system.' He said, 'Well, we're going to this because we wanted to keep up with modern [technology].' I said, 'You don't use steam anymore for catapult?' 'No sir.' I said, 'Ah, how is it working?' 'Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn't have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going, and steam's going all over the place. There's planes thrown in the air.'

"It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it's very complicated; you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said — and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said, 'What system are you going to be —' 'Sir, we're staying with digital.' I said, 'No you're not. You're going to goddamned steam. The digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money, and it's no good.'"



The man is clearly developmentally delayed. Who doesn't know what digital is? We learn to count on our digits. It's that fucking simple.

The worst part, when you see the actual exchange he had with the sailor, it went nothing like what he describes above. The sailor says that electromagnetic system is better and explains that electromagnetic systems are more easily packaged in the ship while also explaining that Albert Einstein's expertise really only applies to the reactor on board. Trump got schooled and then lied about it.



What happened with 8 years of Obama?

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: koods]
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Trump has the best words, he's just completely unable to string them together convincingly.


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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Burke Dennings said:
A couple weeks ago, someone posted a pic of AOC to r/the_donald, the pic had text on it.  It was a quote, claiming to be something that AOC said.  But it was really a Trump quote in disguise.  And the posters there read the quoted, believed it to be from AOC, and started talking about how she’s unfit for office, how she “sounds like a blathering idiot”, etc.  When it was eventually revealed to be a Trump quote and not AOC, the mods there deleted all the comments and locked it up.  It was funny to see how they know that Trump’s best words are moronic, but they love to hear them from him.



I’ve occasionally insulted someone or been a dick using a directly quoted trump tweet. Usually it passes unnoticed.


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NotSheekle said
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qman said:
What happened with 8 years of Obama?



Why are you leaving me in suspense?


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A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Trump has the best words, he's just completely unable to string them together convincingly.



Convincingly enough to get elected. :shrug:

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He wasn’t convincing anyone with half a brain


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NotSheekle said
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qman said:
Asante said:
Trump has the best words, he's just completely unable to string them together convincingly.



Convincingly enough to get elected. :shrug:




By mostly the bottom tier of the Republican party.


He got elected on telling people to beat up dissenters at rallies, and that he'd take care of the legal cost, on shouting that Hillary should go to prison which he immediately subtracted once elected, on "get him outta here", on :chump:  and "you're fired!" and on building that wall and making America great again which as of now still aren't.


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Edited by Asante (02/01/19 10:37 AM)

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Asante said:
qman said:
Asante said:
Trump has the best words, he's just completely unable to string them together convincingly.



Convincingly enough to get elected. :shrug:




By mostly the bottom tier of the Republican party.



Trump ran a great campaign, that's his best talent. He knows how to market himself very well, he even manipulates the MSM.
 
Obama was also very good at it.

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qman said:
Trump ran a great campaign, that's his best talent.




Funny, it looked like the Rise of the Fourth Reich from abroad.

It was like a B movie.


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Re: Trump has the best words [Re: Asante]
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Better than Barrack Osama Bin Laden


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