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Offlinepsilosibling
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Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality??
    #6928696 - 05/17/07 06:20 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: psilosibling]
    #6928740 - 05/17/07 06:43 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

My wife and I were watching the whole time...we both noticed many times where you could hear alot of applause, yet no one in the crowd was moving...

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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: psilosibling]
    #6928838 - 05/17/07 07:25 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

How can you tell?
I suspect the audience reaction isn't faked, it's just a rotten audience. :shrug:

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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: phi1618]
    #6929194 - 05/17/07 09:12 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Wow...and these people are running for President??? Holy cesspool, this nation is FUCKED.

Can I bring something up? Doesn't this sound just like 1950's McCarthyism all over again? Only this time, instead of claiming that commies want to wipe us off the map, we are accusing "terrorists".

And even though McCain is just as crappy IMO as the rest of them, he at least brings up that torture is worthless. And how many people have to be tortured to get one "fact"???????????


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: trippindad82]
    #6929260 - 05/17/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Well seeing as how the commies and the Islamofascists have actually expressed a desire to wipe us off the map we might want to take them at their word. I believe it was Kruschev who said that the USSR would "bury" us and the jihadists are none too shy themselves about expressing their desire for our death.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6929574 - 05/17/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Well seeing as how the commies and the Islamofascists have actually expressed a desire to wipe us off the map we might want to take them at their word.  I believe it was Kruschev who said that the USSR would "bury" us and the jihadists are none too shy themselves about expressing their desire for our death.




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Oh my god, a small group of nuts threatened us! :lol: Oh my god let's nuke everyone. :smirk:


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6929679 - 05/17/07 10:58 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Well seeing as how the commies and the Islamofascists have actually expressed a desire to wipe us off the map we might want to take them at their word. I believe it was Kruschev who said that the USSR would "bury" us and the jihadists are none too shy themselves about expressing their desire for our death.




First of all, Kruschev wasn't talking any more shit about us than we were about him. Just look at JFK during the Cuban missle crisis.

Second of all, there is a huge difference between terrorist groups and communist nations.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #6929687 - 05/17/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Also, being a communist is not inherently dangerous to anyone in society. Just because someone was a communist in the cold war does not mean they were taking part in espionage or helping to plan the overthrow of the US gov't.

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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: Redstorm]
    #6929747 - 05/17/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I was responding to trippindad who said this,

"Can I bring something up? Doesn't this sound just like 1950's McCarthyism all over again? Only this time, instead of claiming that commies want to wipe us off the map, we are accusing "terrorists"."

Both groups have expressed a desire to wipe us out. That was what I responded to. Their ability to actually do so is irrelevant to their desire, although they can certainly make us "uncomfortable." As an historical aside, McCarthy was correct, the State Department was riddled with commies.

JFK during the Cuban Missile Crisis? I don't recall any example where the United States expressed an unprovoked threat to annihilate the Soviet Union whereas the entire Soviet credo was that they would spearhead the spread of communism throughout the world, militarily if necessary. See various military activities in Eastern Europe after WW2.

Fireworksgod is just being fatuous as well as disingenuous.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6929779 - 05/17/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

It wasn't a response to what you were implying with your comment, but rather the reactions that the administration themselves produced in reaction to such a thought. It had nothing to do with you personally. :wink:


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: psilosibling]
    #6929904 - 05/17/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

romney .."its not "torture"..its "enhanced interrogation""...yeah..right...

and i would also beg to differ ever so slightly with mccain that the ticking bomb scenario is one in a million...its zero in a million.. a strawman...and mccains own actions have shown that he doesnt practice what he preaches wrt torture...to wit..mccain supported the final version of the MCA that still allows torture despite expressly forbidding it...


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: psilosibling]
    #6930067 - 05/17/07 12:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

wow what a fucking media frenzy..these people aren't just running for president they're trying to win the God dammed golden globe award.. the last fella radiates all sorts of falsehoods.

as for the clapping, to me it does sound like it may be added in. it rises and falls in volume too quickly and consistently. doesn't sound like a real audience I've ever heard - plus it may look like they were keeping the audience off camera during those moments and the speakers didn't seem to see it coming. all speculation of course.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #6930227 - 05/17/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Annapurna1 writes:

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and i would also beg to differ ever so slightly with mccain that the ticking bomb scenario is one in a million...its zero in a million.. a strawman...




September 11, 2001 was a zero in a million? A straw man?

What about the July 7 London bombings? Another zero in a million straw man?

How about the many MANY bombings of markets, employment lines, funerals and even mosques in Iraq? More zero in a million straw men?




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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #6930238 - 05/17/07 01:12 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Annapurna1 writes:

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..mccain supported the final version of the MCA that still allows torture despite expressly forbidding it...




There's nothing I could add to this astounding piece of contradiction which would highlight its absurdity more than the quote itself, except perhaps to add boldface, so here we go --

Quote:

..mccain supported the final version of the MCA that still allows torture despite expressly forbidding it...







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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: Phred]
    #6930253 - 05/17/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Phred said:
Annapurna1 writes:

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and i would also beg to differ ever so slightly with mccain that the ticking bomb scenario is one in a million...its zero in a million.. a strawman...




September 11, 2001 was a zero in a million? A straw man?

What about the July 7 London bombings? Another zero in a million straw man?

How about the many MANY bombings of markets, employment lines, funerals and even mosques in Iraq? More zero in a million straw men?




Phred




in none of those cases was there a suspect that was captured that had information which could have prevented the said attack or a subsequent attack which could be tortured out of him...did you even bother to listen to the question in the video??...

Quote:

Phred said:
Annapurna1 writes:

Quote:

..mccain supported the final version of the MCA that still allows torture despite expressly forbidding it...




There's nothing I could add to this astounding piece of contradiction which would highlight its absurdity more than the quote itself, except perhaps to add boldface, so here we go --

Quote:

..mccain supported the final version of the MCA that still allows torture despite expressly forbidding it...







Phred




i dont dispute that its absurd..but that is what the law says ..

http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/S-3930_passed.pdf

torture is forbidden under section 6(b)(1) ("implementation of [geneva] treaty oblications") of the MCA as follows ..

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IN GENERAL.—The acts enumerated in subsection (d) of section 2441 of title 18, United States Code, as added by subsection (b) of this section, and in subsection (c) of this section, constitute violations of common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions prohibited by United States law.




6(b)(1)

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TORTURE.—The act of a person who commits, or conspires or attempts to commit, an act specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physicalcontrol for the purpose of obtaining information or a confession, punishment, intimidation, coercion, or any reason based on discrimination of any kind.




however..section 2(g) precludes enforcement of this prohibition ..

Quote:

GENEVA CONVENTIONS NOT ESTABLISHING SOURCE OF RIGHTS.—No alien unlawful enemy combatant subject to trial by military commission under this chapter may invoke the Geneva Conventions as a source of rights.




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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #6930273 - 05/17/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

You do know what a hypothetical is, don't you? It's kind of like an "If this happens would you?????"


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6930281 - 05/17/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

And what makes you so sure it hasn't already happened and worked?


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6930384 - 05/17/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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You do know what a hypothetical is, don't you? It's kind of like an "If this happens would you?????"




that doesnt make it any less of a strawman...

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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6930394 - 05/17/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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And what makes you so sure it hasn't already happened and worked?




that argument only holds if you can first prove your own negative.. or produce a concrete example of where it has occurred...


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #6930453 - 05/17/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

You're the one who asserted as fact that it has never happened.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: psilosibling]
    #6930623 - 05/17/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality??





what Germany was to World War Two, the USA will be to World War Three.

You're not losing touch with reality, your country is turning into the enemy of all it once stood for.
The emergence of the Fourth Reich is happening all around you.

2007 or 1937, take your pick.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: Asante]
    #6930712 - 05/17/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Faked audience applause = FOURTH REICH OMG. AMERIKKKA IS TEH SUXXOR.

Just out of curiosity, not respect just random curiosity, what the fuck are you talking about? Thank you in advance for your no doubt brilliant discourse on how this is an appropriate thread for that particular post.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: psilosibling]
    #6930774 - 05/17/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The fading in and out of the audience's applause is highly suspect.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #6930984 - 05/17/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

it hardly even matters what they say, all of that is just to get in, once they're in they'll pretty much have it however they damn well please and the people don't ever need to know about it :shrug:

edit: enhanced interrogation techniques :lol: these people sound like lawyers


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: elbisivni]
    #6932358 - 05/17/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

we're just as fucked as we've always been. I'd love to see Ron Paul pull it off.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: kotik]
    #6933883 - 05/18/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Ron Paul has been attacked my all the Murdoch Media Corps since he won the first round. The attacks on him are actually quite sickening.

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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: psilosibling]
    #6934487 - 05/18/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Waterboarding is cool.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QM-mfEMssy8

Torture and the threat of death and pain have no effect on fundamentalists who have lived in poverty and suffering their entire lives. Those who come to harm us have already given up their lives and they understand that.


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: psilosibling]
    #6934554 - 05/18/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Ron Paul has been attacked my all the Murdoch Media Corps since he won the first round. The attacks on him are actually quite sickening.






FoxNews Sean Hannity will not allow Ron Paul to explain his position regarding American Foreign Policy. Instead he talks over him until the session is up.

what a disgraceful media..


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Re: Watch this video.. is the audience applause faked or am i losing touch with reality?? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6934697 - 05/18/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

71 years old? :eek: would not have guessed that


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