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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Good luck gaining enough traction to matter, dude.


How much traction do you think he needs?  If he can take 5% of the Democratic vote from a progressive Democrat, that's probably enough for Trump to win.  Hell, 1% might be enough.


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Bigbadwooof said:
Good luck gaining enough traction to matter, dude.


How much traction do you think he needs?  If he can take 5% of the Democratic vote from a progressive Democrat, that's probably enough for Trump to win.  Hell, 1% might be enough.


I think that it's going to be a very hotly discussed issues. Even 1% of the vote may prove difficult. A lot more people are starting to understand how the system works these days. I guess I could be wrong.

He won't be in the debates. It will cost a lot of money for him to have an impact, in my mind.

Another point is that, he could probably take votes from Trump, from Republicans who are sick of Trump, but don't wanna vote for Bernie (After he is nominated, that is) :wink:


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
I think that it's going to be a very hotly discussed issues. Even 1% of the vote may prove difficult. A lot more people are starting to understand how the system works these days. I guess I could be wrong.


I'm guessing you're wrong, because if a progressive wins the Democratic party, CNN, MSNBC, and all the other establishment channels that a large number of people still watch would all back Schultz over a progressive Democrat (billionaires own the establishment media).


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Bigbadwooof said:
I think that it's going to be a very hotly discussed issues. Even 1% of the vote may prove difficult. A lot more people are starting to understand how the system works these days. I guess I could be wrong.


I'm guessing you're wrong, because if a progressive wins the Democratic party, CNN, MSNBC, and all the other establishment channels that a large number of people still watch would all back Schultz over a progressive Democrat (billionaires own the establishment media).


I very well might be. As I said before the last primaries, this is going to be a fucking circus. This time will be worse than last time. I think that if the establishment gets caught engaging in a bunch of dirty tricks, people are going to lose their fucking minds this time around.


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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They always get caught in dirty tricks.  But they don't report themselves, so the mainstream media crowd never finds out.  :shrug:


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
They always get caught in dirty tricks.  But they don't report themselves, so the mainstream media crowd never finds out.  :shrug:


You're harshin my vibe right now, bruh.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Dude, that story totally harshed my vibe.  I was super optimistic about Bernie (or his equivalent) until this news came out.

What can be done?  I just hope enough people read alternative news I guess, which is asking too much I think.


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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You guys need to hang with Mellow Mike.




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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: christopera]
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You know, thinking more about that 3rd party bid... I could really see Tulsi Gabbard pulling it off more than Bernie. I just wish she wasn't Hindu, but Trump will already be taking the evangelical vote, regardless. I just think Tulsi would be scalping votes for being a woman, and a minority, and she's very likeable and well spoken... I could see her being the better candidate, even if I prefer Bernie. I think people would come out in droves for her vs Trump or billionaire dude.

She'd obviously have a lot of support from Sanders.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Tulsi seems outstanding, but the establishment media will fry her NO MATTER WHAT.  People aren't smart enough to understand the establishment media is the mouthpiece of the rich.  Even koods still trusts the establishment media after getting burned like 100 times.


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Tulsi seems outstanding, but the establishment media will fry her NO MATTER WHAT.  People aren't smart enough to understand the establishment media is the mouthpiece of the rich.  Even koods still trusts the establishment media after getting burned like 100 times.


Don't be so cynical, buddy!

She's already been playing the alternative media game. Bernie Sanders got quite far without establishment media. It would be truly hilarious to watch media organizations, such as CNN, who have been attacking Trump for years now, suddenly do an about face, and go after his opponent lol! How can anyone take that seriously.

More than 3 in 4 believe traditional media reports ‘fake news’: poll

I did find it quite funny how they are presenting Kamala as if her taking office would be LeGeNdArY, because she's part black, and a woman, but make no mention of the fact that Tulsi is Indian, Hindu, and also a woman! Just that she used to be against gay rights lol


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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ballsalsa said:
email today:
Quote:
XXXXX,
We are excited to announce that January’s membership call will feature filmmaker and activist Michael Moore, former executive director of National Nurses United RoseAnn DeMoro, and Our Revolution’s Board Chair Larry Cohen!

Join us on Wednesday, January 30 at 6 p.m. PT/9 p.m. ET for a discussion on Medicare for All and how we get it passed in the U.S. Congress. Be sure to RSVP below:

Click here to submit questions for our speakers and we will look forward to speaking with you soon!

In solidarity,

The Team at Our Revolution


submitted question: How can toxic feminism be mitigated with regard to alienating progressive allies in the fight for medicare for all or other goals?


Had this call tonight. 
The nurses united lady made it sound like bernie is running.
medicare for all bill incoming in the house sponsored by Rep. Jayapal from Wa.

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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Had this call tonight. 
The nurses united lady made it sound like bernie is running.
medicare for all bill incoming in the house sponsored by Rep. Jayapal from Wa.


Slow, but steady... we'll win this race :smile:


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 3
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Gabbard doing an interview on CNN. She really does sounds presidential. Moreso than Clinton ever did. To me anyway. I really hope she does well.

She's a fucking veteran too. Put that up against a draft dodging piece of shit like Trump. I dunno man, I'm excited to see how things shake out. I just can't see an establishment democrat beating Sanders or her.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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:thumbup:


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Good luck to this asshole! He's not going to get very far with his pro-billionaire message lmao!


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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At least he says he wont run as a 3rd party spoiler and help Trump win. He also said he wont run as a Democrat because the party has moved too far to left. So I guess that means he's going to run as a Republican. I think he just had his 15 minutes of fame.


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
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Brian Jones said:
At least he says he wont run as a 3rd party spoiler and help Trump win. He also said he wont run as a Democrat because the party has moved too far to left. So I guess that means he's going to run as a Republican. I think he just had his 15 minutes of fame.


I didn't hear him say that he wouldn't run as an independent. He said that he wouldn't be a spoiler, but he didn't say he wouldn't run independently. He deflected the question.

My favorite thing about this interview, is that he says that to run as a Democrat, you have to support medicare for all, and tuition free public colleges. That means Bernie Sanders did exactly what he intended to do. Bernie Sanders put progressive issues at the forefront of the conversation. He radically changed the party.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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from the inbox:

Quote:
Our Revolution is partnering with National Nurses United to launch a nationwide campaign to pass Medicare for All in Congress. We kicked off earlier this month by calling our Representatives and urging them to co-sponsor Rep. Jayapal's upcoming Medicare for All bill -- you can still call your Representatives now at 202-858-1717!

Our Revolution partnered with Organizing for Bernie, Progressive Democrats of America, Digital Left, the People for Bernie, and Sanders for President to host more than 400 events across the country to mobilize Bernie supporters and progressives.




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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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Maybe I misinterpreted him. I thought by saying he would not be a spoiler he meant he would not run independent. My reasoning is that any independent Presidential candidate who gets any real number of votes does act as a spoiler. But I see your point and he may well be selling snake oil.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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