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thealienthatategod
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what do you hold higher than your own happiness?
#25741252 - 01/13/19 04:24 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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does it serve you in a manner that lifts you up?
or does holding something higher than your own happiness take you down?
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bodhisatta
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Happiness is held in highest regards.
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Jokeshopbeard
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Self-discipline and kindness to others.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Supernova
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Re: what do you hold higher than your own happiness? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#25742511 - 01/13/19 07:26 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Peace.
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thealienthatategod
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Re: what do you hold higher than your own happiness? [Re: Supernova]
#25743233 - 01/14/19 09:02 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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can you please tell me more about peace?
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Masked
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Many things that I hold in a higher regard than my happiness...
But the number 1 would be my children, their well being, development and happiness.
I find I put my happiness second to other peoples happiness in general (partners and people I feel close to). It doesnt always have a positive outcome
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Acuriousmycologist
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Re: what do you hold higher than your own happiness? [Re: Masked]
#25744782 - 01/15/19 12:09 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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My babies happiness and wellbeing
-------------------- We're all mentally ill. We're all delusional. We're all junkies. It's just a matter of degree (the Venerable Robina Curtin) Anything I say here is a fiction, for role play or research only. Full of bollocks I am. I wouldn't believe me.
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cherylScott
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I can't guide seeing
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Deploy
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ChRnZN
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I hold the things that allow me to sense being happy higher than my own happiness. Was that a trick question?
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Anonymous #1
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I aspire to hold my life principals and philosophies above all. In some ways I have succeeded and some ways I have failed. Its a constantly evolving circumstance. Deeply desiring to progress in this regard more so in the past year than ever before in life. Things are difficult to transition out of after being a complete sack of inhuman shit for so many years. Fuck my previousness. Need to purge my ass out of bad juju.
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Morel Guy
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Re: what do you hold higher than your own happiness? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25772533 - 01/27/19 03:29 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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With my dog his happiness or security and health is good for me. I'm somewhat distant in that regard with family but maintain what they ask and somewhat expect.
People's expectations are not always great for us, but there's a balance.
So much of life is not being defined by social expectations and so much of being a good person is meeting or exceeding expectations. In a good way.
I think for many of us the service of society that is crystalized in Government fails our hopeful expectations. Same with religion largely.
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The Dalcassian
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Re: what do you hold higher than your own happiness? [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#25774477 - 01/28/19 10:54 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Personally I feel a sense of fulfilment is far more important than my personal happiness. My happiness doesn't seem to hold off the heavy thoughts I have of things that are largely out of my control. An example would be my friends and my wife's mental health, or the state of the world and society at large, but if i can push myself enough everyday, I can achieve a sense of fulfillment which kind of equates to "I've done all i can for today". This then helps me relax and sleep much easier. I know "fulfilment" is a vague and subjective term and i guess it can be acieved through a myriad of ways or a combination of any. But if I feel if I put in a good effort in my days activities, be it work, hobbies, housework or whatever, make a couple of people smile and make one person's day easier then I'm most the way there. I don't get there everyday but now more than ever before it's most days and it leaves me content.
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Morel Guy
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Re: what do you hold higher than your own happiness? [Re: The Dalcassian]
#25774494 - 01/28/19 11:07 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sleep is kinda like death. It's hard to accept it can just happen in our sleep.
But I don't think the self talk ends at death. I'm sure it gets very dramatic in out of mind ways.
So it seems impossible to be happy with that. But at times there is odd satisfaction. Not really for any reason than mind was free.
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thealienthatategod
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Re: what do you hold higher than your own happiness? [Re: The Dalcassian]
#25774815 - 01/28/19 02:01 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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i wonder what the difference is between 'happiness' and 'fulfillment'
if happiness doesn't hold off your heavy thoughts,
why does fulfillment?
why not be happy and fulfilled?
what if every time we fall asleep we actually die?
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Morel Guy
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We get empty fulfillment that can open doors.
For some sleep fulfills their wishes of wanting to be unaware. I have a Korean war vet neighbor and I don't know what clock he is on. Their dogs are out at odd times.
he's been through a lot I'm sure. Not even sure where he is from, not even a guess.
He seems to hold on to live pretty well. He hasn't said anything about noticing drug activity.
Most people don't deal out of the house. If you are wise indeed.
I know drugs can fulfill. They can teach adaptation to not using them. So I've been on meds for years and years again now. They seem to keep me awake and not as tired.
They shook what I thought was a foundation. Never thought much of weed until paxil. Now I think I could take paxil again. But I know we can sleep into aggression. Not well thought out aggression.
So for a lot of people, distance between aggression is fulfillment for a time we hope lasts. Mutual freak outs.
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The Dalcassian
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Quote:
thealienthatategod said: i wonder what the difference is between 'happiness' and 'fulfillment'
if happiness doesn't hold off your heavy thoughts,
why does fulfillment?
why not be happy and fulfilled?
what if every time we fall asleep we actually die?
I suppose fulfillment comes from meeting or exceeding my own expectations. I can have a really shit day but if i can complete my goals then I will attain a sense of fulfilment or achievement. As for happiness, well I get my fair share but happiness is kinda one sided. Can only be happy when your happy. The symptoms of fulfilment, pride, positive self image, confidence, compassion, can all bring you happiness but are not but are not created by it.
A life fulfilled is happy but happiness is not necessarily fulfilment .
If all that makes sense...
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Ethric
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I don't care about myself at all..
Now I care only about my closest family and friends.
But I hate myself and I want to die recently so don't listen to me.
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thealienthatategod
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Re: what do you hold higher than your own happiness? [Re: Ethric]
#25801638 - 02/09/19 01:01 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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treat yourself how you would like others to treat you.
i'll listen if you need someone to talk to!
you may not care about yourself, but i do.
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Ethric
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Quote:
thealienthatategod said: treat yourself how you would like others to treat you.
It does not work.
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thealienthatategod said: i'll listen if you need someone to talk to!
Thank you, but Im tired of talking, im tired of people and their games, im tired of everything. People thinking only about themselves i guess..
The thing is I just want fell to be loved, and some closeness.. I never fucking had it, even from my parents.
I rarely feel something to others, even to the closest family. Im usually pretending to feel to not offend them or make them sad.
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Shenmue
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Re: what do you hold higher than your own happiness? [Re: Ethric]
#25802171 - 02/09/19 06:18 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think you can be happy in this life. I believe that life is suffering. I'm not saying you can't be happy for short periods of time but 90% of it is going to suck. I come from a good family. I have a good paying job and im above average looking. Even with these things I'm depressed and have a difficult time getting out of bed. Probably because the American dream is bull shit. I think a world full of toxic people are the reason me and other people are sick. Until they die out we're f-d..
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