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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Enlil] * 4
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Enlil said:
The problem with universal healthcare is that it will prolong the lives of bad people.


The problem with not having universal healthcare is that it will shorten the lives of good people.


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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Quote:
He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.



:trollhide:

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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A system like ours sucks, NHS national insurance comes out of my wages for jobless do nothings, who are proud of scrounging their whole lifes and their kids lifes and they can get free medicine but even though my wages pay for the service i still have to pay for my prescription. My local A&E has a minimum 8hour wait, because the drs cant keep up with the amount of people. If i need to book an appointment at the drs practice its a 2 month wait, because its full. Whenever i go there its like a club house for the elderly and jobless chavs trying to get an excuse for why they can no longer work, ive heard one guy once describe the symptoms of chronic fatigue so the other guy can use it to get benefits.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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mrmazdarx9 said:
A system like ours sucks, NHS national insurance comes out of my wages for jobless do nothings, who are proud of scrounging their whole lifes and their kids lifes and they can get free medicine but even though my wages pay for the service i still have to pay for my prescription. My local A&E has a minimum 8hour wait, because the drs cant keep up with the amount of people. If i need to book an appointment at the drs practice its a 2 month wait, because its full. Whenever i go there its like a club house for the elderly and jobless chavs trying to get an excuse for why they can no longer work, ive heard one guy once describe the symptoms of chronic fatigue so the other guy can use it to get benefits.



Yes.

Welfare and disability are easy to scam. I see lots of people who have done it. All people who are lazy, able bodied, and tend to have broken families.

I'm not paying for these people and I don't want them "paying" for me.

Welfare needs to have incentives that convince people working is a better alternative to welfare.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: XUL] * 6
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If we eliminate the legitimately disabled, and acknowledge that some people do scam disability, it is still the case that most of the people on welfare work full time.

But a person wouldn't know that unless they were someone who actually wanted to know things.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Brian Jones]
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A little reform would do.

Changing the incentives and the checkup for able bodies.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: XUL] * 1
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Are saying we don’t investigate welfare and disability fraud ?
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/435144001

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LAKEWOOD, N.J. — Nearly 15 people have been arrested in raids over two days in a New Jersey community in connection with an ongoing investigation that has so far exposed about $2 million in alleged public-assistance fraud in the town.



You could get a job investigating disability fraud if you wanted , people are hiring . It’s not that easy to scam .
  If you see someone committing  disability fraud you can report them yourself , right now . So why didn’t you .


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Edited by Psilynut2 (01/06/19 09:20 AM)

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Brian Jones] * 3
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Brian Jones said:
But a person wouldn't know that unless they were someone who actually wanted to know things.


Conservatives don't care about facts, they care about feels.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: XUL] * 4
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XUL said:
A little reform would do.

Changing the incentives and the checkup for able bodies.


If you're going to bitch about welfare, you should be bitching about corporate welfare. They're the real grifters. Multimillion dollar subsidies to walmart, for building a store that they will profit from in a small town. Look at the kind of subsidies Boeing gets. It will make you want to puke.

Our government just gives companies like Amazon enormous sums of money, cuz they're cool and successful. It makes no god damn sense.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


Edited by Bigbadwooof (01/06/19 12:52 PM)

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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Bigbadwooof said:
If you're going to bitch about welfare, you should be bitching about corporate welfare. They're the real grifters.


:booooom:

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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ballsalsa said:
Bigbadwooof said:
If you're going to bitch about welfare, you should be bitching about corporate welfare. They're the real grifters.


:booooom:


:awesomenod:


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
ballsalsa said:
Bigbadwooof said:
If you're going to bitch about welfare, you should be bitching about corporate welfare. They're the real grifters.


:booooom:


:awesomenod:


:asianofapproval:

:freewilly:


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Private insurance fraud is a huge problem


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Re: BUILD THE WALL *DELETED* [Re: koods] * 1
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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: stevo]
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stevo said:
Published 2013
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The neocons have had this plan before Trump just needed the right spokesman


I'm sure he said 'restoring', and someone edited it to say 'destroying'.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 4
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https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20190116&fbclid=IwAR0rhWyIR4GAOSUzzv4TxaorW9UQ_js0Iu7nsZEDP2vl1VEWMGWY6Ct8w3k

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The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, visa overstayers accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally.

"It is clear from our research that persons who overstay their visas add to the US undocumented population at a higher rate than border crossers. This is not a blip, but a trend which has become the norm," said Donald Kerwin, CMS's executive director in a statement. "As these numbers indicate, construction of hundreds of more miles of border wall would not address the challenge of irregular migration into our country, far from it."


Turns out that a wall is pretty poor investment if we want to slow illegal immigration.


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20190116&fbclid=IwAR0rhWyIR4GAOSUzzv4TxaorW9UQ_js0Iu7nsZEDP2vl1VEWMGWY6Ct8w3k

Quote:
The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, visa overstayers accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally.

"It is clear from our research that persons who overstay their visas add to the US undocumented population at a higher rate than border crossers. This is not a blip, but a trend which has become the norm," said Donald Kerwin, CMS's executive director in a statement. "As these numbers indicate, construction of hundreds of more miles of border wall would not address the challenge of irregular migration into our country, far from it."


Turns out that a wall is pretty poor investment if we want to slow illegal immigration.


I have no issue eliminating work visas and not building the wall, are you fine with that outcome?

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
I have no issue eliminating work visas and not building the wall, are you fine with that outcome?


I'm pretty sure Christopera has already elucidated a favorable solution to both of these.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


Edited by Bigbadwooof (01/17/19 12:19 PM)

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
I have no issue eliminating work visas and not building the wall, are you fine with that outcome?


I'm fine focusing on the issues that actually matter, like AOC is trying to do, and not slamming her for no reason before she even gets started.

But hey, she's a dark skinned Puerto Rican woman, so maybe that explains why you're already so skeptical?  :shrug:


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
qman said:
I have no issue eliminating work visas and not building the wall, are you fine with that outcome?


I'm pretty sure Christopera has already elucidated a favorable solution to both of these.


That's wonderful, I'd love to hear these "favorable solution to both of these".

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