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Invisiblenewuser1492
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Illegal immigrants
    #4313609 - 06/19/05 11:51 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.registerguard.com/news/2005/06/18/d5.bz.berryimmig.0618.html

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Immigration curbs wreaking havoc on berry picking

The Associated Press 
 

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SALEM - Tighter controls of border crossings between the U.S. and Mexico have led to a shortage of strawberry pickers in Oregon, leaving some prized berries to rot on the vines during prime picking weeks.

Earlier this week, an emergency plea for strawberry pickers was issued by the state Employment Department.

It's the latest trouble for an industry already coping with rising labor costs, a decline in strawberry processors and increasing domination by California growers.

``We're losing the first picking,'' said Juan Diego Sanchez, a labor supervisor on a 75-acre farm outside Woodburn. ``We're behind because there's not enough people.''

The optimum number of workers to tend the field is 550, Sanchez said. On Wednesday, he had 330.

Traditional seasonal workers from south of the border have not shown up this year, said Daniel Quiones, the migrant seasonal farm workers representative from the Employment Department.

``There's just not as many people,'' he said. ``There's fear about crossing the border and insecurity because of the Minuteman Project.''

The Minuteman Project involved civilian volunteers who patrolled the U.S.-Mexico border this spring by ground and air. Since then, the federal government has beefed up border patrols.

In Oregon, farmers and labor contractors said the government needs a temporary worker program.

Independent labor contractor Arnulfo Sandoval Perez told The Statesman-Journal of Salem that some strawberry farmers are losing $10,000 per day.

Jim Ludwick, president of Oregonians for Immigration Reform, said he felt sorry for the farmers, but that the situation does not justify more immigration to the state.

Instead of clamoring for the cheap labor, farmers should be lobbying Oregon legislators to remove the restrictions on children working the fields, Ludwick said.

``A number of years ago, those strawberries would have been picked by Oregon schoolchildren,'' he said.




Oh yeah those illegal immigrants really took ur jurb! :rolleyes:

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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Re: Illegal immigrants [Re: newuser1492]
    #4313614 - 06/19/05 11:55 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Illegl immigration is definately a complicated subject. A lot of them come here and suck our resources (by sending their kids to our schools, etc...), but they also do contribute to the economy in ways.

Edited by RandalFlagg (06/19/05 11:59 AM)

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Invisiblenewuser1492
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Re: Illegal immigrants [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4313616 - 06/19/05 11:57 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Eliminate welfare and open the borders.

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InvisibleDieCommie

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Re: Illegal immigrants [Re: newuser1492]
    #4315299 - 06/19/05 09:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe Americans dont deserve cheap strawberries. 

If it comes to choosing between cheap strawberries and displacing our way of life with the Mexican way, ... well I dont even need to say what I choose.




But strawberries sure are good. :cool2:

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Re: Illegal immigrants [Re: DieCommie]
    #4315317 - 06/19/05 09:44 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You think the Mexican way of life is going to dominate the American way?  :rolleyes:

That's a bit of a ridiculous reason to oppose immigration. So should we just close off the border with Mexico and South America all together, seeing as we don't want them to take our way of life? That argument applies just as much to the illegals as to the legals, after all.

I think you're still stuck in the same mindset we had at the end of the 1800s with the Chinese. Yet the Chinese didn't take over our culture, so why would the Hispanics?


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Re: Illegal immigrants [Re: Ravus]
    #4315366 - 06/19/05 10:02 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

the Chinese didn't take over our culture, so why would the Hispanics?
They multiply like rabbits?

So should we just close off the border with Mexico and South America all together
Yes. Give every citizen one chance to take a free one way boat ride to the continent of their choosing. Then, when those boats are to return, give every American in other countries, especially soldiers, the opportunity to come back home on them. Then seal this bad bitch off and tell everyone to do their thing and leave us out of it or we nuke them.


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Re: Illegal immigrants [Re: DieCommie]
    #4315443 - 06/19/05 10:26 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

The American way of life is doomed.


Picking strawberries is alot of work - they should just have pick-yer-own patches, then they wouldn't have to hire any Mexicans. :wexican:

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InvisibleLe_Canard
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Re: Illegal immigrants [Re: newuser1492]
    #4315551 - 06/19/05 11:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

The ugly (and often ignored) truth is that the US produce market depends heavily on immigrant labor to harvest the crop. If they stopped using their labor, produce prices would go through the roof....

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Re: Illegal immigrants [Re: newuser1492]
    #4315931 - 06/20/05 01:45 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

a white family used to live next door to me. they moved. a mexican family moved in. now there are 5 cars in their driveway/street/yard, the grass is about a foot tall, and there is a pitbull that barks and threatens to attack everytime you walk by.


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