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Walls do work! * 2
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It seems like the old talking point about ladders being a threat to border security has been defeated by the case study of Israel's southern immigration wall.

Israel solved it's immigration problems with a wall.

This is why democrats are afraid of the wall. Because it works.

MAGA




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breaking ground in 2010, Israel completed the 242-km. (150-mile) fence in December 2013 at a cost of around $450 million. Whereas about 9,500 Africans crossed into Israel illegally in the first six months of 2012, less than three dozen did so in the first six months of 2013, at which time the major components of the barrier had been completed.

Illegal immigration through Sinai dropped to 11 cases in 2016 and 0 in 2017.

The fence also has dramatically reduced the smuggling of contraband into Israel and there have been no security breaches from Sinai since then

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Israels-border-walls-A-case-study-For-Trumps-mantra-574517/amp



Ladders don't seem to be working!

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Israel's southern wall cut illegal immigration to zero

Former mayor in Jewish state concludes 'it works'

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wnd.com/2018/12/israels-southern-wall-cut-illegal-immigration-to-zero/amp/







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Schumer Admits Border Fence Makes Border 'Far More Secure' In Resurfaced Video


Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said in 2009 that construction of hundreds of miles of fencing along the southern border made the border "far more secure" because it created a "significant barrier to illegal immigration."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/39737/watch-schumer-admits-border-fence-makes-border-far-ryan-saavedra%3famp




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Ex-Obama border patrol chief says it's 'absolutely false' to say walls don't work

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/hilltv/rising/429773-ex-obama-border-patrol-chief-says-its-false-to-say-walls-dont-work%3famp




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TRUMP 2020

Edited by XUL (02/13/19 12:39 PM)

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: XUL] * 2
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I don't think that's a good example, note all those guard towers and active monitoring? Common sense man, you could really benefit from exercising it.

Here's a video of some actual drug smugglers scaling trumps current slatted proposal with bacj packs full of drugs in a matter of seconds.


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Re: Walls do work! [Re: XUL] * 2
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Border security experts are telling anyone and everyone who wants to listen to them that no kind of wall would be effective. They emphasize more personnel, more strategic use of those personnel, and coordinated drone monitoring of weak spots along the border. These experts should be listened to. The only reason Trump is hellbent on this is because he is a demagogue trying to pander to a base that, he hopes, will get him reelected in 2020. He is an unprincipled, total whore. All the experts agree that to support a border wall is unbelievably uninformed.


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Re: Walls do work! [Re: DividedQuantum]
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I highly suspect Trump is scheming to make money off of the wall in some way as well. He works in real estate, construction, and fraud. I find it very hard to believe he doesn't have someone lined up for the contract already which he will be getting kick backs for. I see no other reason to have ever proposed such a massive and useless construction project other than to skim money. If it was just to pander to his base he could have proposed something that would be cheaper, more effective, or both.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: krypto2000]
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Those guys climed that wall eith back packs full of drugs in 12 seconds. 12 seconds. Is therr any reason to even continue arguing about this?

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
I don't think that's a good example, note all those guard towers and active monitoring? Common sense man, you could really benefit from exercising it.

Here's a video of some actual drug smugglers scaling trumps current slatted proposal with bacj packs full of drugs in a matter of seconds.





I dont agree with the wall and all. But im  sure you could do something, or put something on the slats to make them harder to climb

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: MagicMush123]
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DO SOMETHING!

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
It seems like the old talking point about ladders being a threat to border security has been defeated by the case study of Israel's southern immigration wall.

Israel solved it's immigration problems with a wall.

This is why democrats are afraid of the wall. Because it works.

MAGA




Quote:
breaking ground in 2010, Israel completed the 242-km. (150-mile) fence in December 2013 at a cost of around $450 million. Whereas about 9,500 Africans crossed into Israel illegally in the first six months of 2012, less than three dozen did so in the first six months of 2013, at which time the major components of the barrier had been completed.

Illegal immigration through Sinai dropped to 11 cases in 2016 and 0 in 2017.

The fence also has dramatically reduced the smuggling of contraband into Israel and there have been no security breaches from Sinai since then

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Israels-border-walls-A-case-study-For-Trumps-mantra-574517/amp



Ladders don't seem to be working!

Quote:
Israel's southern wall cut illegal immigration to zero

Former mayor in Jewish state concludes 'it works'

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wnd.com/2018/12/israels-southern-wall-cut-illegal-immigration-to-zero/amp/







Israel can do whatever they want, but when the US or EU nations want border enforcement, they're "racist". Nice double standard.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: qman]
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Who's supporting Israel?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Yeah, what are you talking about qman? Israel is beyond racist, they're a terror state. Fuck Israel to hell.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Yeah, what are you talking about qman? Israel is beyond racist, they're terrorists. Fuck Israel to hell.



And don't you just find it a little bit ironic that the same group of people that denounce Western nations enforcing their borders and then they do the exact opposite when it comes to their homeland?

It's almost like doing what's in your own self-interest and then sabotaging other nations by pressuring them to do the complete opposite.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: qman] * 1
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Yes, I don't trust Israel and they try to cause chaos in the west. That has nothing to do with this topic though. Just because an enemy sometimes has a view that aligns with mine doesn't make it wrong (although we do not support not enforcing the border, we do not support expensive and inneffectual means of enforcing it.). Moving back along to the actual topic at hand now...

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: krypto2000] * 1
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krypto2000 said:
DO SOMETHING!



Line the slats with tacks or something... im sure something could be done

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: krypto2000] * 3
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Israel has to defend what? 30 miles? It’s not even close. If we had to build a similar wall to defend the sourthern border it would cost hundreds of billions.

This thread is a fail


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: koods] * 3
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Xul The senate majority turtle just sent everyone home for Christmas. No deal. It’s the Turtle shutdown now


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: krypto2000] * 1
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krypto2000 said:
Yes, I don't trust Israel and they try to cause chaos in the west. That has nothing to do with this topic though. Just because an enemy sometimes has a view that aligns with mine doesn't make it wrong (although we do not support not enforcing the border, we do not support expensive and inneffectual means of enforcing it.). Moving back along to the actual topic at hand now...



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/02/israel-agrees-un-deal-scrap-plan-deport-african-asylum-seekers

Yeah, Israel wanted to deport all of the blacks and send them to Canada, Italy, Germany and other Western nation.

Talk about getting caught red handed. :rofl2:

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Xul The senate majority turtle just sent everyone home for Christmas. No deal. It’s the Turtle shutdown now



Pffff trump wanted to give his workers time off for Christmas and somehow the msm spun it into a government shut down. Go figure :bathtub40lol:

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Israel has to defend what? 30 miles? It’s not even close. If we had to build a similar wall to defend the sourthern border it would cost hundreds of billions.

This thread is a fail



I have a fence on my resedential property and illegal immigrants never cross it, therefore if we build a 2,000 mile fence on an unmanned border in the desert it will be just as effective. Trumpian logic; his followers are the lowest common denominator.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: krypto2000] * 4
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Lol trump is using his alone time to learn MS paint




It has pokey things at the top and there is no anti-pokey thing technology known to man.

This presidency is a fucking farce! I hope Melania puts that picture up on the fridge.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/22/18 02:46 PM)

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: koods] * 1
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Those barriers are not new, that's what's already being implimented to upgrade some of the existing wall. That's the very wall those guys scaled in 12 seconds. Maybe we have different definitions of totally effective.

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