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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: Yesum]
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"  Surprisingly, besides the part i was more or less 'knocked out' from an overdose of informational energy. i never left my bedroom. I know i describe the trip as being in a hyperspace mode, yes, but it was more like a 'shift' that was turned on in my brain, it was like the secret shadow was unveiled and this reality is literally a stage by the aliens and this realization had me swept off my feet, i was watching and asking questions the whole time trying to deny the answers these aliens were giving me, and eventually when me and the alien spirits got down to it, it proved me wrong in all ways and felt like an idiot for questioning them. You will receive any question you ask. I promise. I never saw these aliens, only heard there distinct voice of meaning in a telepathic like dream-state of virtual reality.

After this level 12 experience, i realized why i considered it a level 12. Yes. You heard me. Another experienced IV user of 4-aco-dmt reports shooting 30mg, having a level 5, then shooting 40mg and reported it felt like DOUBLE(see) and was saying his goodbyes prepping for his death he was certain he just invoked, like i did.

I have tripped many times in my life, if i were to give you all a honest, but rough estimate, it goes something like this....Salvia 10-20x(7 times)  Mushrooms(about 20 times)    N-N-DMT(about 5 times)  LSD(about 4 times)  25C-NBOMe(1 time, high dose)    DXM(3 times)    mescaline(1 time)  and a few others....this 4-acO-dmt trip blew every single one of them out of the water, and if i had a choice i would pick that 1 trip rather than all my others combined.   


So take it for what it is.




Very first off...I tell you all and live by, and stress by this experience, TO SPREAD TRUTH. If you guys are serious about understanding the realm dmt couldnt dream of taking you, you NEED to try a large dose of IV.      N-N-DMT does not give you this rush, and experience.  N-N Dmt when injected, even said by mckenna, takes about 10 minutes to start working. This 4-aco, i wouldnt be surprised existed all along and it was the 'ultimate experience'. They had to know about this state of mind before they claimed. I am very confident to say i tapped into the 'gaian mind'..i witnessed THEE eschaton and what the whole malarkey is about experiencing the end. Because i did just that..here goes my sorry attempt to even trying to describe what happend that faithful day...

First off, let me say this. I am just a messenger. I havent been taught much in life, but always stayed true to myself in an epic, yet wreckless search of true knowledge. I am a loser, i flood myself with the most powerful tryptamines known to mankind and simply waits to see what happens. Well one night...i really did it this time fellers. When i tell you how my trip went, to my honest perspective as a human being, is how it went down and these this isnt just some drugs you do to get high, this is FOR THE HARDCORE TERENCE MCKENNA type psychonauts ONLY and i did not know what i was getting myself into, even after smoked dmt 5 times, 4 hits each, and once on psilocybin. Im not even sure if i was allowed to have this experience.

Break the bag open thinking im only shooting up a minor amount, which turned out to be about 40mgs, an apparent 'sweet spot' that i had somehow hit. This experience has cult written all over it, after injecting this highly potent milky solution, i was overwealmed by a 'rush' that was unlike any heroin rush, and i know my rushes. Im saying to myself "i cant believe i did this and my family is going to have to go on without me, oh well its too late now! i thought...then BOOM I exited the game at that moment. Electrical waves of information downloaded in the whole MATRIX-TYPE BARCODE running up my body at the speed of light while im spazzing and paralyzed in ecstasy, i looked at the arm i injected the substance in and it was covered in green black and white numbers in straight lines. running rapidly up and down my body, this was right when the rush started to cease, and right when the rush ended, and i was dead, there was this LOUD LOUD buzzing mixed with a beeping sound, and energy is caving in and on my sorroundings until i am being pushed up and down at the same time i thought i could explode, i was paralyzed during and a about 30 seconds after the rush, while this force of downloaded alien barcoaded ultimate knowldge is experienced is pushing me forward, until i reached the IT. I was dead, facedown, cheek against the keyboard of my laptop. Never has even heroin done this to me. This made dmt look like childs play in 'meaning of life', for reasons like this. I did something only very few human beings have EVER done and couldnt dream of doing. What did you do, mr.mushroom jesus? I merged with the all-knowing supercomputer, i was under the impression the whole world was too, i thought "it must be december 21st, its the only explanation(until i came out of it and realized what i really did) i was literally experiencing THEE virtual reality, i believe terence mckenna spoke about. Everything was dmt-like visuals with just this all around higher-state, literally, my mind was elevating during the trip. So i merged with the ultimate computer and felt so humble, and felt like aliens landing outside my window and revealed to us it was all this huge stage set up to test humans true nature, and we failed. we FAILED. So, im thinking my parents are going through this as well, but i was in this state that was real, not just 'fucked up man'.

Lucky for us, they have mercy on us and realize that we were lead astray. So i have merged with the super-computer alien, was shown how life is a test/game/play, now what? I was then shown by these ultimate teaching spirits that i cant remmeber if it was a part of the supercomputer, or if they were spirits by themselves but they explained to me(or me just explaining myself) the secrets of the human consciousness, i was let in this mythical doorway that i always saw on science fiction tv shows, but of the brain. The brain works like a forgetting onion layer,or HONEYCOMB and we are experiencing only the outer layer with that limited capacity for informational output and input. What i did, was i worked myself IN FROM THE OUT...i shot the dmt and was propelled instantly into the center of THE HONEYCOMB or THE SUPERCOMPUTER working my way out throughout the experience.

The reason i feel the need to type this up is because i had this experience, and read a report, that was extracted out of the depths of the internet, of a kid who experienced just what i did, and it had the same effect on him as it did me...like what we did was we did THE IT...the strongest sense of "NOW YOU REALLY DID IT THIS TIME" "OH SO THIS IS WHAT ITS ABOUT"...10x more than any smoked dmt trip. This experience, you all will see in due time, is legit. The more IV experiences with this chemical the more YOU WILL HEAR TRIPS JUST LIKE MINE, NO MATTER HOW CRAZY I SOUND. I am paving the way for others to DARE plunge into this sea.

The way i can describe it is this. Your walking around the earth, then one day, as your walking down the street, you fall over a cliff and fall into the sea of knowledge. THEE SEA. A sea that nn-dmt does not know. A sea consisted of real hyper-technology and the whole 9 yards.

After puting this chemical into my arm i realized what life was about. To experience this life clenching gripping experience of death and life of pure emotion that injecting a large dose of 4-aco. I somehow swam to the depths of my brain and set this landmark there, that i can always revist in my mind, but not emotionally.

MUST be experienced FOR THE HARDEST OF HARDCORE ONLY. ONLY. ONLY. I am not saying i qualify, because this trip was so awesomly scary i have some now and refuse to revist that side because i honestly dont know if i will come back. Im just here to tell you that it does exist, and to fear not because we all return to this all knowing supercomputer is which ourselves. The feeling of realizing you been lied to your whole life, and needed to be told the truth by some white powder explains alot about the world we are living in right now. IM TELLING YOU...if you only get one thing out of all this it should be this....This is the leader of IT ALL. This ultimate IT, is beautiful. I remember asking the gods what would of happend if i had died. They shrugged me off in a way like "if you could of learned anything down here, its that death is the ultimate mystery you will need to wait to encounter". I was given a sneak peak by being able to merge with this machine, which is my brain. You guys dont get it, our animal bodys are CONDUCTORS of energy/information barcode. That is it. We are a vessel so that this god can experience itself in A NEW way TO AMAZE ITSELF, if that makes ANY FUCKING SENSE. Right after the rush starts to end you have this "flash" thats feels like getting hit in the back of the head by the all-knowing alien. I got the flash, which was like a knockout punch, and when i was experiencing the trip, throughout the whole trip i was really convinced the world was going through this as well, i didnt know my name was david and i had just shot up a very powerful drug. It was scary, yes, but the most amazing part.



One reason why this experience has meant more than any of you can imagine is that I GREW UP CHRISTIAN, I expected to see fairys, demons, angels..etc. Not higher-dimensional space technology that was my own brain....etc.

edit: you will all poke fun at me calling me a troll, until you IV the eschaton, that is. Then you will know. What, chicken shit? If you guys need to get an IV administered by an expert and you close your eyes while it goes in like the school girls we all were and just DO IT. No matter what, you need to get it done, by all means. That is...if you are serious about all this shit you all havent even sunken your teeth into, and i barely have. Im telling you, DO IT WHILE ITS LEGAL...One day there will be a kid like myself, who does this crazy act, and demands to know what the FUCK just happened, he will read THIS trip report and go "wow, good to know im not the only one...."

After the rush it is hard to really know in chronological order, what happened. Im giving you my best realizations of the bits and chunks i went through.




Incase anybody cares, here is a quick experience from an experienced user of iv 4-aco on the drugs forum.

"SWIM's trip on 30mg was mostly crazy geostropic patterns and what not. No entities and nothing especially meaningful to SWIM. It was a hell of a ride.

Then, I tried 40mg. This dose was obviously stronger. It felt like twice as much. "Ahhhhhh... How will I get out of this?" SWIM kept thinking. He then gave into the trip and met all kinds of entities, deities, etc. He was in different dimensions of reality frequently. Changing between our world, the one above use three spaces all the way up to seventy two places above ours; all the way down to the negative numbers of dimensions.

Really... no one has any idea of how big this universe is? SWIM saw it all in under twenty minutes with just 40mg of 4 ACO DMT put into his arm. Try this, SWIM highly recommends it.

Peace."




Were all driving on the highway in life, life is being stopped in traffic until we die.

Smoking DMT and psilocybin by themselves or combined at any level, is like jumping off a huge ramp, and going as far as you get. without no getting hurt.

What i did...whatever that was....was jumping off the ramp and crashing into the wall, guts going everywhere and alien spirits scraping them off and smoking the bits and pieces little by little with some tin foil and a straw(lol). This is the single most epic experience known to man, and somebody needs to try this. I may sound craxy, but what i have is REPEAT ABILITY on my side  :shrug:




I also want to add, that i will most likely never purchase this chemical again, being confident i was fortunate it gave me "The Ultimate Experience". I really have less urge to experiment with other tryptamines, but do so anyway, just not 4-aco-dmt, although, upon further thinking i do want to try vapeing it and eating a heavy dose, maybe 50 mgs. I dont think i will ever be injecting this chemical again ever in my life, and defiantly wont be IVing any other tryptamine, for it would only shit on them. Honestly.


This is an instant RUSH..its what you get when you inject a drug into your bloodstream...i was doing it with heroin for 3 years and never got the feeling "UHP....IM DEAD" because of how severe it was. The effects that proceeded was me against this wall having a semi-seizure that was alien/matrix-barcoded driven surfing the wave of positive numbers all the way down to the negative with buzzing and beeping VERY loud. Then the experience worked its way out, and thats when i experienced everything i wrote.


This is the Holy Grail. If you dont believe me, dont call me a liar...TRY IT "



this is a very immature trip report. i wrote it way too close to the time i had the experience when i should have left time to integrate it first. also, i was only 19.

im going to write an updated one soon. i was just in pure shock when that happened so excuse the :underage:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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"""Electrical waves of information downloaded in the whole MATRIX-TYPE BARCOD"""

so.. my friend... how you feel about the 666-Barcodes in SuperStores today then?

It is true... look yourself, 666 on them, ALL of them.

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore]
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I would personally never bother with other drugs than Acid or Mushrooms, they get me to where I want to be, I mean it can be unmeasureably INTENSE.

A level 4, I can hardly breathe, intense visuals on shrooms.

But level5 is intense, it shatters your whole world, each and every time.


The matrix is real people.

And then I did acid/shrooms combined, like 1 strong hit with like 2.5g mushies on the peak, best of both worlds (but I recommend you never mix with pills, already very risky).

It really is a kitty flip , just dont overdose the shrooms, as can give bad trip easier (shrooms got a will of their own, take you for a ride).


I tell you, there ufos each and every time

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore]
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""

Smoking DMT and psilocybin by themselves or combined at any level, is like jumping off a huge ramp, and going as far as you get. without no getting hurt.
""

I once dreamt my local ferry was REPLACED BY AN UNDERWATER-BUSS

that was off the rramp

it literally drove under water, and i felt pressure in my ears, and bus driver said ' dont worry that is to be expected a little'


and it felt real
so bus drove under water... i wasnt very thrilled, felt fear a little
what if water comes inside

but i arrived on the island of my parents



this is the real world people. It literally had replace ferry, with a ramp, and a bus to drive slowly into water
it sank SLOWLY, and u could feel gravity, and pressure in ears
to totally convince you, this reality is real my friend

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore] * 1
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Damn, thanks for bumping this. I remember my friend showing me this thread in high school when it first started.


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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said:
"""Electrical waves of information downloaded in the whole MATRIX-TYPE BARCOD"""

so.. my friend... how you feel about the 666-Barcodes in SuperStores today then?

It is true... look yourself, 666 on them, ALL of them.




Yeah there's a 6 at the start middle and end, crazy stuff

I'm not huge into conspiracy though but I find it very interesting


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

Edited by Bill_Oreilly (07/31/18 05:38 PM)

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
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Interesting to see the thread come alive with some more interesting stories. I encourage others here with deep ventures to share their part.


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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: gizmodo] * 1
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did strips and strips of acid a couple times but i don't remember it for the most part.  :shrug:  not proud of the doing nor the not remembering.

friends tell me i was jovial, if not able to communicate for many hours at a time.

i'd rather take a high dose and remember the fun than a sillyhigh dose and blackout.

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Bill_Oreilly said:
lessismore said:
"""Electrical waves of information downloaded in the whole MATRIX-TYPE BARCOD"""

so.. my friend... how you feel about the 666-Barcodes in SuperStores today then?

It is true... look yourself, 666 on them, ALL of them.




Yeah there's a 6 at the start middle and end, crazy stuff

I'm not huge into conspiracy though but I find it very interesting



They are merging machines with humans, that is what it is all about.

Didn't you watch the Matrix?


That's why ther are 666 on Teddybears today in stores...b

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore]
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Consciousness is in all; Psychedelics not the ONLY consciousness expanding molecules

Infact there are very very many

Shamanic drums, urine therapy, crystals, binaural beats (great for luciddreaming), luciddreaming, fasting/meditation, sexuality


Basically everything is conscious

Eat a leaf of nature, and you can gain its consciousness, also from plants


Green generally activates Heart Chakra; take note how talkative you may get next time you eat a wholecucumber.


But psychedelics have an important purpose, in fact so important, CIA tried to use LSD as a "Truth Serum"

Maybe that is its true purpose, and it was Destiny that Hofmann invented the molecule by 'mistake' in his lab? - Godly Purpose /Gods intention?


Be not surprised you can expand your consciousness in many ways. Most important of all, do not believe what you are told! - This world lies to you.

The world is to enslave you to your senses. The more you deprogram from them, the more free you become.


The world I see has most humans hooked up to the matrix, a slave to their senses and Technology is their God. For satan provies a god for humanity: Technology as their savior, so they will all worship satan. But there is a dark price to pay for technology as ones savior: One Soul. Now all people look down into their cellphones. Noone looks up.
And mean while we are being sprayed from above... chemtrails, and dumped toxins in our water to dumb us down: Flouride (chemical weapon, warfare).

And these only 2 toxins we are exposed to by the new world order


I tell you, these molecules they would kill, to hide from humanity


And it is also why PEOPLE SIT LIFE IN JAIL FOR THEM. Pickard, Ross Ulbricht, another lsd chemist. And some Weed people have gotten decades of prison too.

It is because both marijuana and lsd expands consciousness, and the state is dead-scared of that, people being their own doctor


They would rather dump us with chemtrails, and make us run to the doctor, all of us
I am the only person in my society who runs never to a doctor

All i see know, run to pharmacist, doctor


It is due to Chemtrails. They poison us from above. They blocked out the Sun.

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore]
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I've read this a few times and each time I come back to it I look on this with less amazement... It sounds honestly terrifying and like a shitty prank or hazing ritual. Here's an idea, how about joining a "family" that doesn't require you to dose large amounts of acid to enter? To trip that hard and for that long, what a tortourous thing.

Someone like Chinacat would say I needed it, or at least a scaled down version, to free the ego. I would tell that person they need less trips. I wasn't always this jaded, promise :wink:

Regardless its still a legendary thread


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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: ModestMouse]
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ModestMouse said:
I've read this a few times and each time I come back to it I look on this with less amazement... It sounds honestly terrifying and like a shitty prank or hazing ritual. Here's an idea, how about joining a "family" that doesn't require you to dose large amounts of acid to enter? To trip that hard and for that long, what a tortourous thing.

Someone like Chinacat would say I needed it, or at least a scaled down version, to free the ego. I would tell that person they need less trips. I wasn't always this jaded, promise :wink:

Regardless its still a legendary thread



I have experience with SOURCE due to a spontaneous OBE when 5yrs old,so doesn't sound surprising to me.

Who is willing to deceive, cannot be trusted.

I can totally relate to god-given molecules here to aid man turn his life around/way around. And in fact that is how gods-knowledge works too: truth shall set you free, truth is very painful, truth does nothing by itself, it just shows you. Gods power is extensively painful to be shown. God can open our eyes, but we must walk the path. "If man's eyes were cleansed, everything would look infinite"


I have faith all psychedelics have a Higher-Purpose, but as good as they are: they are not a magic bullet. Nothing magically heals, except for Jesus Christ (faith in).


Psychedelics just give you the knowledge, if you listen.

But knowledge is an inherently double-edged sword, with a serpent rising around it too, very dangerous.


It can bind, it can free.

Thus many can go insane from psychedelics too (not just lsd). But most probably benefit, for if they show truth, then the truth shall set you free.


It is just we have to be ready to integrate that truth.


Imagine if you were shown you were the center of your solar system. Some would become Egomaniacs, other would be responsible Gods.
Imagine if you were shown the world revolves around you, literally, that all you see is you, and manifested by you.

Would it make you narcissit, prideful?



Thus I say, Knowledge inherently doubled-edged Sword. And an angry wrath Snake is hissing around it! Hiss Hiss

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore]
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do YOU want the sword of knowledge *hiss *hiss**


Be careful hoew you hold it. It requires the force, manna, to be able to hold it

Who holds it without having life force, gets bitten


Must be pure of heart?




i imagine being the One, must be a little like Zelda: defeating Gnomes all day while being pure of heart, having manna

+ having the Sword of Knowledge (mythical sword of knowledge bestowed upon you)


Maybe there a higher purpose for it all?


Maybe these molecules make you a loving warrior? - never using the force unless absolutely needed. Handling that Sword gently. Like a gentleman. Zelda?

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore]
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I don't reject the possibility God exists but when anyone says that someone needs to see Gods path/way/light I can't help but laugh.

You want Gods way? Love.
That's it, love. Doesn't take LSD to learn that and it certainly doesn't take a massive dose either.


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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: ModestMouse]
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ModestMouse said:
I don't reject the possibility God exists but when anyone says that someone needs to see Gods path/way/light I can't help but laugh.

You want Gods way? Love.
That's it, love. Doesn't take LSD to learn that and it certainly doesn't take a massive dose either.



You can be Enlightened in many ways, do not diss or be sny to the Truth just because it is unfamiliar to you.

Truly I tell you there are many ways up the mountain, but once you get to the top, it is the same mountain.

There seems only one mountain though.


Knowledge can lead to love too. Make light from the dark - heard it before?


It is just a dangerous path, agree with you there. It can trap you all in the mind , thus the *hiss * hiss* (snake sits wait for you) warning.


Knowledge is an inherently double edged sword. Binds or frees. 'with much knowlege comes indeed great suffering' -- he who increaseth knowledge,increaseth suffering ~Bible


It can be no other way.


Thus love is the safe way. But you can experience God, in the mind too. You reject the possibility of Godliness in mind there.

Mind as godly as the heart. Though Heart > Mind.


Lets just say Brain is the Earth way often. And Heart is our heavenly Father.

But does Wisdom not have a purpose?

It has very much purpose. It enlightens man, then his neighbor. It helps humanity evolve.


Wisdom just as important, as the heart in our world. Yet we must chose Heart over Mind.

There can only be wisdom, to who fears consequences of a poorly controlled mind. Fear the Lord.


Dear friend, there are Visionaries
artist
poets
who see witht their eyes

and there are psychic healers who see into people and heal them

In common is they all see, a way forward for humanity. I mean alex grey certainly Inspired me and many others.

His drawings.

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore]
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Everyone sees with their eyes, except blind folk.
I don't see what Alex Grey has to do with this.


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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: ModestMouse]
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ModestMouse said:
Everyone sees with their eyes, except blind folk.
I don't see what Alex Grey has to do with this.



"""but when anyone says that someone needs to see Gods path/way/light I can't help but laugh.

You want Gods way? Love.
That's it, love. Doesn't take LSD to learn that and it certainly doesn't take a massive dose either."""



He is a visionary
He makes people See!

Holy Spirit be with him in his works. Amen.

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: ModestMouse] * 1
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You need more urine therapy.

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Crazy_Horse said:
You need more urine therapy.



Uh Oh the personal attacks. Slam it to me baby.

Thank you. And thank you for giving attention to the truth: Urine Therapy cures cancer.

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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said:
ModestMouse said:
Everyone sees with their eyes, except blind folk.
I don't see what Alex Grey has to do with this.



"""but when anyone says that someone needs to see Gods path/way/light I can't help but laugh.

You want Gods way? Love.
That's it, love. Doesn't take LSD to learn that and it certainly doesn't take a massive dose either."""



He is a visionary
He makes people See!

Holy Spirit be with him in his works. Amen.




ModestMouse .. .see not with your physical eyes, seek to see with your Immaterial eyes.

And then you will see.

For you speak of eyes as material, maybe material is all you know here. But keep remaining open to the truth, that there is something nonmaterial too.


The bible says that who loves worldly things, has no love

We must not love material things, or love with our eyes - sinful pride


Instead love with the One Eye, the eye that matters, the eye of the heart

Because we cannot discern much with the Physical Eyes, they be gone when we die one day.


The christians generally warn about worshipping physical dead things, modestmouse, incl our senses (eyes). We can not use them for anything once we leave from here (die).


What matters, must be something worthwhile, yet not dead things.


It cannot be sight or nonsighted, I mean blind people can be Happy too. So that seems not a good indicator for what is meaningful.

Something higher must be at place.


Something may be worth keeping, and some other things not worth keeping in the end (the flesh, the dead physical things).

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