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OfflineLearyfanS
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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: chinacat72]
    #3816808 - 02/22/05 12:33 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks again Chinacat.  Could you tell us more about your meeting with Bear and any interesting stories about him that most people don't know?

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Learyfan]
    #3875605 - 03/06/05 01:00 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Chinacat72 and Enter!  :sun:

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Annom]
    #3876119 - 03/06/05 03:40 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, thanks, I would love to hear some stories about Bear, too.

That story about picking mushrooms sounds like alot of fun.

I heard Bear used to sell microdot out of the corner booth in Cantor's Jewish Deli in L.A. back in the day before he moved to Frisco, and originally had red, green, and blue, but eventually only made the blue for a while. I heard his Dad was a general. Oh, maybe I should let Chinacat tell the storys. I bet he's probably got a better Bear story than that.

My Dad said the mid west was flooded with blue microdot way back when.

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3876335 - 03/06/05 06:57 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Wow.....

  thank's for the best sunday read yet!!

Very nice way to drag the old cat out!!

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: World Spirit]
    #3877002 - 03/06/05 11:39 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

This was confusing.


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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #3881534 - 03/07/05 04:14 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Bump.

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3892808 - 03/09/05 01:15 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Bummer, no Bear stories from Chinacat. Meh. I'll try one more time. Bump.

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Tomatadunothing] * 3
    #3894567 - 03/09/05 07:27 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

My experiences with Bear are just conversations with him at shows. During the 80's and early 90's bear made a living selling his buckles and jewelry at the Greenpeace booths at Dead shows. I would run into him because I was real tight with the Greenpeace folks. I enjoyed talking to him. He is really guarded to talk to, but I think he let his guard down for me cause I didn't sit there and grill him with LSD questions(that and my friends would by buckles to give to people, so we were good customers). He is a very opinionated man with strong beliefs. I found some of his beliefs to be quite extreme, but he really is a smart man. We had a good argument once about the diet of humans.
Usually I would be at the Greenpeace booth and bump into him and have some light conversation about how tour was going.

One thing I remember is a run in back stage once. Getting backstage at a Dead show wasn't that hard if you had been on tour for awhile. Getting backstage didn't really mean alot. You basically just saw the crew. There was "backstage", and then there was backstage that no-one got into except the band and crew.
I was hanging around the catering tables getting some free grub before heading back out. I hear two people arguing about something that happened along time ago and here comes Bear. He stops and says "don't get caught up back here kid,
the scene back here is toxic and filled with ego, stay out in the lot with the real family".
I also vaguely remember being at the Greenpeace booth once and we were all standing around talking to Fran(The head of Greenpeace on tour at the time).
As with all Dead shows people were walking around slinging doses and everything else imaginable. Owsley doesn't look anything like a deadhead(in fact he looks like a cop). Some kid walks up to him and says "dose's need any doses?" He just walked away. We all laughed. Here's this kid trying to sell ten strips to Friggin Owsley!! LOL I guess you had to be there ,but it was funny as hell. I imagine it probably happened to him several times. he liked the lot scene in the 80's. He would be out strolling around checking it out. Most people didn't know who he was and the ones who did don't go running around going "OMG there's bear".

He's a very opinionated man and his name Bear is very fitting. I took alot of his rap with a grain of salt. That said he's fucking Owsley and is the man.
He set the ethics and the standards for the LSD family's. His beliefs about quality and the sacredness of crystal is something I wish would always be lived up to. He's another one of the key few who made the psychedelic revolution possible. It was an honor to be able to speak with him.


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OfflineLearyfanS
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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: chinacat72]
    #3894740 - 03/09/05 07:54 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Wow, thanks Chincat. I love reading stories like those!

Here's an Owsley interview in PDF form if anyone wants to read it. Here's a piece from Timothy Leary's book "Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out" (which I believe is just pieces from his book "The Psychedelic Experience") about Owsley and his theory on the Van Allen Belt that I transcribed a few years ago......

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"Oh man, how beautifully it all fits together. Dig, the first atomic fission occurred in December 1942.
The Van Allen belt is a thick blanket of electronic activity protecting this planet. What is the earth? A core of molten metals covered by a thin layer of soft, vulnerable, organic tissue. Life nibbling away, nibbling away at the rock beneath. All life on this plantet is a delicate network unified. Each living form feeding on the others, and being eaten. The Van Allen belt is the higher intelligence protecting earth from lethal solar radiation, and it's in touch with every form of living intellegence on the earth-vegetable, animal, human.
Now dig, the supreme intelligence sees that man has rediscovered atomic energy. Wow! We gotta stop those cats before they disrupt the whole living network. the only thing DNA fears is radiation. That's why the Van Allen belt is there.
Ok, now get this. Four months after the first fission, Hofmann accidentally, ha ha, rediscovers LSD, which is now psychoactive.
Hofmann first synthesized LSD in 1938, but it gave no hit. No turn-on. Now why is it that Hofmann handles LSD in 1938 and nothing happens and then in 1943, three months after atomic energy is released, he puts his finger on lysergic acid and gets flipped out? What happened? Did Hofmann suddenly get careless? Or had LSD suddenly been changed into a psychedelic chemical? Competent chemists just don't change thier handling of compounds. Hofmann's techniques are standard.
Now dig, The atomic fission in December 1942 changed the whole system of energy in this solar system. The higher intellegence decides to make a few simple changes in the electronic structure of some atoms and zap! We have LSD, and incredibly powerful substance that is the exact antidote to atomic energy. People take LSD, and flash! They get the message and start putting things back in harmoney with the great design. Stop war! Wear flowers! Conservation! Turning on people to LSD is the presise and only way to keep war from blowing up the whole system."








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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Learyfan]
    #3896267 - 03/10/05 12:55 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, Chinacat. I can def. see how the folks backstage might think their shit didn't stink, even if it was no big deal to be backstage. People let some silly stuff go to their head. There's plenty of room for everyone to hang out in the parking lot to kick it. Why would you want anyone to be left out? That's some funny stuff, trying to sell Agustus Owsley Stanley III acid. I wonder if anyone ever tried to sell him his own product.

I read his opinion about the diet of humans in that interview Learyfan posted up. Who would have ever thought that the most infamous acid chemist in history would be a full flegged devout carnivore, as well as a proponent of using fosil fuels! He definately has some interesting theories that he talks about in that interview, but I'm definately not buying it all hook, line, and sinker. I think Chinacat's a vegetarian, so he must not have made that great of an argument for the consumption of meat.

The fact that his product turned on countless people is enough to make him one hell of a guy in my book, but it's refreshing to read his opinions, many of which clash directly with what most folks view as the stereotypical dead head, even if I am skeptical of some of what he has to say.

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: chinacat72] * 1
    #3896745 - 03/10/05 07:54 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I have this book called TRIPS and in it there's a section on Owsley and they talk about how Owsley would put his hands on the machines while synthesizing LSD because he believed you had to focus all your good vibes on it and channel it into the LSD. That gave me crazy chills.


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-Erik Davis

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 2
    #15974748 - 03/21/12 12:55 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Bumping this thread. Great interview.
RIP WorldSpirit.

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: chinacat72]
    #15975120 - 03/21/12 05:42 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Bump.  RIP Enter?

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OfflineIts Pat
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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Learyfan]
    #15975191 - 03/21/12 06:36 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I wonder where the old bastard is.  Would make me sad if he indeed was no longer with us.


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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Its Pat] * 2
    #15975307 - 03/21/12 07:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

awesome thread!! i actually hadn't read this one before. damn, i wish i actually got a chance to talk to chinacat. i know the word gets over used alot, but he seems so awesome.



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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Dosile Kouki] * 2
    #17201055 - 11/11/12 01:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

That's the first time I read it also.:dancingbear:  Those were the days. Enters interviews were legendary. I'll have to read Ythan, Learyfan, and Workmans interviews a little later...:lsd: . . . :peace:


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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: vinsue] * 2
    #17201328 - 11/11/12 02:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sad how this place can act as a time capsule, to see the posts of someone like world spirit and think someone's a live and well, and they're not. Interesting indeed.


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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: vinsue]
    #17201542 - 11/11/12 03:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Good bump, Vinsue.  I just read all of Chinacat's posts again.  Really, really interesting stuff. 

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #17203628 - 11/11/12 08:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the bump.

This place really needs a new ChinaCat like character. Assuming that if/when they show they're not trolled out by kids.

I hear ChinaCat is still around, possibly browsing/posting under a different name (per a mod)..not sure why that would be though.

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Re: Exclusive Interview w/Chinacat72 in My Truck [Re: shLong]
    #17204227 - 11/11/12 10:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ChinaCat changed the way I view psychedelics completely. He was on a completely different level than any other poster on any message board. Makes me so sad he still doesn't post here. I wish I could have a chance to message him or just talk to him once. Hope all is well for him. I love the way he talked about love.

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