MagicMush123 said:

I like how all these self proclaimed nazi experts and antifa members cant give a number on how many nazis are in the states. Apparently nazis and fascists are Americas biggest threat, but you guys have absolutely no idea on how many there might be. Very telling

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Enlil said:

Some racism has to be tolerated because, whether I like it or not, there are people who have deeply held racist beliefs which form the rationale for their politics and desired policies.  If we banned all racism, how could they discuss their reasoning for supporting a particular policy?

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Enlil said:

It is, but being transsexual is literally a mental illness defined in the DSM.  If acknowledging that is transphobic, then we have a whole lot of health professionals who are afraid as fuck of transsexuals.

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Tipote said:

So where does that put Nazism? Its one thing understanding that people have racist underpinnings (whether conscious or not) for their political beliefs, but accepting open support of Nazism does seem to cross that line you've set surely. Nazism isn't just underpinned by racism, it is core to its beliefs and is inherently violent in that regard.

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Tipote said:

well I'm pretty sure homosexuality was treated in a similar way not that long ago.

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Enlil said:

Tipote said:

well I'm pretty sure homosexuality was treated in a similar way not that long ago.

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Maybe.  And maybe things will change.  For now, however, transsexualism is a defined mental illness according to the professionals.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

Just as long as you know how everyone here actually feels

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You mean how you feel. Maybe I'll express how I feel someday, until then I'll play within the rules.

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You express how you feel nearly every post.

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I thought repressing emotions was dangerous, so I guess I'm doing the right thing.

Tipote said:

MagicMush123 said:

I like how all these self proclaimed nazi experts and antifa members cant give a number on how many nazis are in the states. Apparently nazis and fascists are Americas biggest threat, but you guys have absolutely no idea on how many there might be. Very telling

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Can you give numbers of how many islamic fundamentalist terrorists there are out there?

Also, are you not aware of crypto-fascism? The intentional hiding of fascist beliefs because of the social stigma? These people build power any other way they can and play down any fascistic or racist tones. Why do you think the alt-right makes such an effort at looking fresh and clean, in contrast to swastika tattooed nazi skin heads?

What we can measure is the increase of racism, fascism and nazism. The increase in politicians running for office on white nationalist platforms - at least one with openly a nazi background, the increase of hate crimes against people, property and places of worship, the increase of swastikas, the increase and openess of extreme groups like the KKK, Nazis and other bigots to march in the street - many times provocatively like with guns in Jewish neighbourhoods, the increase of online chatter in support of racism, fascism and nazism etc. The increase of further and further right wing policies, their support at the ballot, etc. There are certainly indicators.

I can also see the slaps on the wrists that these groups get by the state when they are actually caught doing terrorist shit like make bombs. I can see the complicity of the state in working with them to target dissenters. Theres a lot to see if you have your eyes open.. but apparently you won't see the problem until you have a database to give you the complete numbers. and even then?

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The Ecstatic said:

MagicMush123 said:

The Ecstatic said:

Lol what?

Is this where you tell us that trans people are mentally ill?

At least youre an equal opportunity bigot.

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Accepting reality makes you a bigot? People who make such claims make me wonder if their just liars. No one can claim that thinking men who think their girls are not mentally ill or off in some way. If you think its normal you're just being a liar and defending them for the sake of defending them, maybe you're  a bigot for people who can see reality and admit things for what they are

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Transphobia is a legitimate form of discrimination. I am not surprised this is news to some of you.

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What do you know, science is transphobic

Psilynut2 said:

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The main reason for the German initiative regrading both countries was to free ethnic Germans from genocide and persecution. After WW1 the newly formed National boundaries (drawn up by the allies) saw German territory handed over to both Poland and Czechoslovakia, leaving large amounts of ethnic German minority's behind.

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That’s bullshit .
  The main reason was lebensraum . The official German policy of colonial expansion through violence .  They did the same thing in Africa during ww1 and a country is actually trying to sue them for it right now .
  Hitler said it was to protect Germans but no one believed him , it was typical for Germany .


   

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inority's behind.

Your argument surrounding Poland in September 1939, also completely ignores the fact that Russia also invaded Poland at the same time and the two states divided up the newly annexed country between them. Yet only war were declared on Germany by France and Britain, initiating WW2.

The whole thing stinks

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What good would it have done for Brittan and France to declare war on Russia ? They couldn’t even defend Poland from one aggressor ...

  This is what Hitler had to say just before the invasion :
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  Kill without pity or mercy all men, women or children of Polish descent or language."
 
Why would you need to kill  women and children if your goal was to protect people ?


“””All Polish specialists will be exploited in our military-industrial complex. Later, all Poles will disappear from this world. It is imperative that the great German nation considers the elimination of all Polish people as its chief task."”””
  — Himmler .

When the Germans invaded Poland the weren’t telling themselves the same bullshit they were telling everyone else “  hey lets go protect our fellow ethnic Germans “ ,
  they were telling themselves let’s kill all those people and take their land .

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Tipote said:

Nazism isn't just underpinned by racism, it is core to its beliefs and is inherently violent in that regard.

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XUL said:

Why the hey would we ban anybody for talking about an ideology of any sort?

What's the big deal?

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Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

Nazism isn't just underpinned by racism, it is core to its beliefs and is inherently violent in that regard.

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Says you and your Commie/Allied lies and propoganda!

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Germany's National Socialists did what during WW1? Didn't even exist as a political entity. That's what I thought.

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itical entity. That's what I thought.

No one believed the "Nazis" that they were fighting to defend their people? You mean allied fabrications have taught successive generations that, that is not the c

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Your supposed Hitler and Himmler quotes are blatant horse shit too. More Soviet fabrications no doubt. I've looked it to the origins of the term (the military industrial complex) and it appears it was first used by Eisenhower in 1961. So suggesting that it was used b

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