Tipote said:

ok.. take 2:

Although I'm pretty sure this site didn't accept racism let alone Nazism in the past, now it seems to be accepting of all. I'm told by our mod that if he bans racism and nazism then he would have to also ban communism and capitalism......as though that makes sense

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qman said:

Racism is against the rules, with that being said you can't call people racist or a nazi because you don't like them.

Your definition of "racism and nazism" are people that don't hold the same radical beliefs that you do, that's your issue, not the mods.

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racism is against the rules? Could have fooled me with all the unchallenged racism and nazism on this forum.

and your characterisation of how i define racism and nazism is one big straw man. Try again. I happen to call people who openly idenitify as Nazis - Nazis. Radical, I know.

Tipote said:

qman said:

We have rules against flaming other members, this is a very basic concept.

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is it a flame to call someone a Nazi - when they have identified with Nazism?

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Tipote said:

qman said:

Racism is against the rules, with that being said you can't call people racist or a nazi because you don't like them.

Your definition of "racism and nazism" are people that don't hold the same radical beliefs that you do, that's your issue, not the mods.

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racism is against the rules? Could have fooled me with all the unchallenged racism and nazism on this forum.

and your characterisation of how i define racism and nazism is one big straw man. Try again. I happen to call people who openly idenitify as Nazis - Nazis. Radical, I know.

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qman said:

Where is the "racism" on this forum?  There isn't any.

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As far as Nazism, again that's open to interpretation. Why would a political belief be against the forum rules?  That would be stupid.

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Tipote said:

qman said:

Where is the "racism" on this forum?  There isn't any.

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As far as Nazism, again that's open to interpretation. Why would a political belief be against the forum rules?  That would be stupid.

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So you accept racism is against the rules but Nazism is just a political belief? Why is racism ok to be "banned" if Nazism isn't? Nazism incorporates racism of many kinds within its ideology. That is a fact.

what exactly is "open to interpretation"? If Bubbles identifies as a Nazi and is all "jewish conspiracy" this and "holocaust" that and is regularly posting antisemitic cartoons, memes etc, and even posts "#Hitlerisright".. Am I really jumping to conclusions that he is a Nazi? And is it therefore a flame to call him a Nazi?

anyway.. all the while, you deflect and distract from this thread topic. Why not try answering the questions..since you have previously theorised on the intentions of the "jewish conspiracy". Why hold back?

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Political beliefs are not against the rules, just because you disagree with those beliefs doesn't mean those people should be banned.

You're allowed to state things I might think are "racist" in nature, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to post it.

You hold many extreme views that I find highly offensive, again that doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to express those views on this site.

I might identify with many "liberal" viewpoints, does that mean I'm a "liberal?  A person might identify with a few "nazi" viewpoints?  Does that mean they're a "nazi"?  No.

This isn't a black or white issue like you're trying to make it, it's essentially your way or the highway and it doesn't work that way. Most people value the free exchange of ideas and speech, maybe one day you'll feel the same way.

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The Ecstatic said:

Enlil said:

Tipote said:

I'm told by our mod that if he bans racism and nazism then he would have to also ban communism and capitalism......as though that makes sense

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You know as well as I do that this is not what I said.  I moved your thread because you were specifically calling out another member of this site.  Now, you're lying about what I said to you, calling me out.  If you want to have this discussion in public instead of private, I am happy to do that, but you should at least be man enough to use my actual words instead of putting different ones in my mouth.

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Tbf the fact that being a nazi doesnt violate the rules but calling out a nazi does, is laughable.

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What is "being a Nazi" on this site?  And why would holding certain positions violate the rules on the site? 

"calling out a Nazi does"

We have rules against flaming other members, this is a very basic concept.

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The Ecstatic said:

Enlil said:

Tipote said:

I'm told by our mod that if he bans racism and nazism then he would have to also ban communism and capitalism......as though that makes sense

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You know as well as I do that this is not what I said.  I moved your thread because you were specifically calling out another member of this site.  Now, you're lying about what I said to you, calling me out.  If you want to have this discussion in public instead of private, I am happy to do that, but you should at least be man enough to use my actual words instead of putting different ones in my mouth.

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Tbf the fact that being a nazi doesnt violate the rules but calling out a nazi does, is laughable.

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Tipote said:

is it a flame to call someone a Nazi - when they have identified with Nazism?

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The Ecstatic said:

I want to be able to criticize nazis, yes.

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Enlil said:

I have made it clear to Bubbles that racist rhetoric will only have limited acceptance in this forum.  He's been warned.  He's been banned.  He will either get with the program or find himself permanently banned.  That does NOT make it okay for you to turn this forum into a venue for your private war against him.  Attack his ideas (which is easy because his ideas are stupid as fuck) and not him.

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Kryptos said:

If it walks like a duck goose and it quacks "Heil Hitler", it's probably a Nazi.

Even if it won't admit it.

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