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Asante's EGO DEATH RUN * 4
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Returning from my second fully committed Ego Death sequence in two weeks time. My ego died in yet another way, a death most graceful and epic. It seems like I'm on the final run of ego deaths towards the transpersonal realm. Some of you may not know what I'm talking about, its an important phase in a process of spiritual progression that one can go in life.

It's a good thing

(-snip!-)


I hope nobody gets offended by this, but in a zany mood I just now consulted the tarot singing the tune of this wordless Muppets skit, with each menamena being a tarot card drawn, which was highly accurate about what went down and at the final MENAMENA the deck made me pull the The Magician card - the one representing me since my teenage years and the card I have hanging printed on canvas in my living room. I laughed my heart out at such a lovely wink from the beyond. Intuitive Magic :heart:




My heart was overloaded with all the love and strong feelings itt was filled with. I literally pressed a fireworks rocket to my heart andmy heart unloaded all that love and WOW intoi it, taking a great oppressive burden from it, a grounding of the heart, I then fired the rocket and its shot its stars out over Valentines day 2018.

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The eminent researcher Stanislav Grof outlined a cartography of the psyche, where the process of self-healing takes one beyond the experiences of the person's life, through the Death-Rebirth struggle of the trauma of having been born and dying, through ultimately a series of Ego Death experiences where one experiences living through several authentic phases of the Ego dying, before arriving in the Transpersonal Realm of (often) death-transcending experience, unlocking one's full spiritual significance of that incarnation.

I'n now apparently in the final sequences of most intense struggle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_death


I have been too afraid, too much of my life.
There will be no more "No I can't" from me.

You put your Ego in
You get your Ego out
Its Ego Death so bet that it is shaken all about!
Liberation's dead ahead for when you finally sort it out!
That's what it's all about!

:awecid:



So happy to be alive on this great day!



Excuse me, while I kiss the sky :supersaiyan:


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante]
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I have a form of ego death.. but am planning on ressurecting my ego.. or otherwise bring it to life.. converting the Psychopath to Nobleman.. unless i can find a way to synthesize them my ego will and needs to be understood.. in public.. and as a sentient and curious knowing self!


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: BrendanFlock] * 2
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BrendanFlock said:
I have a form of ego death.. but am planning on ressurecting my ego.. or otherwise bring it to life



I think our ego is always there, when we brush our teeth and make sure we don't have snot hanging out our noses before going out in the morning/night we are feeding ego, when we dress nice in order to appeal to our preferred gender we are feeding ego.  I think those types of egoic feelings are OK, but if we think we're better than another because of how we look/act then we're consumed with negative ego.

I think when we have ego death it puts life into perspective, we see what life is really worth and often realize that all the pomp isn't what matters, that we should strive to raise human consciousness up a notch to the best of our ability, some might do this with their jobs, through their spiritual practice, or it can be as simple as posting positive things online to the many troubled minds which fill this world. 

When I offer my energy to the universe I do so to see humankind move ahead a little bit.  I don't know my neighbors because I am super shy, but I know she's pregnant so I wish a strong baby for them and much happiness in their marriage, or my other neighbor had kidney stones so I wish speedy recovery for him, or even Asante who said he had to get his colon looked at, I visualize him in my minds eye being well.:grin:

This is how ego death has made me feel, I want to put positive thinking into the world.  I fail all the time because I am human and sometimes selfish, foolish, immature, but I pick myself up and keep moving forward by learning from my mistakes.

My patron is tied to death/rebirth (ego death).




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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Lucis]
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I wonder if you told the truth 100% of the time would you have an ego or not..?


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: BrendanFlock]
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I think you would..!


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: BrendanFlock] * 2
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I suddenly found myself dying in my chair, it was so engaging, and then I let go.

Then I saw from my body my Ego in spirit form moving out of be, curling up into a black ball at my feet, the black ball being the singularity of the pre-big-bang universe.

I booted back up and was overjoyed.

This second ego death was easier than the first, I knew that I "was going to die" and that surrendering would do it, and that it was ego death and not biological death.

COME AT ME! 
Let's do it AGAIN!

Its so liberating to let go into the unacceptable and then get the boot sequence.

I hope in the next session I'll be up for Ego Death #3

I want this over with.

Everything I want and hope for is in the Transpersonal realm.

I need to cross the valley of the shadow of Ego death.

Bring it on.


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante]
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Do you think people in western society have their first ego death from drugs?

And then afterwards have maybe a second or third one but drugs arent needed anymore?

I personally had 2 ego deaths from drugs, then one sober, and then a 4th on drugs.. but I retained all the meaning each time..

Data or the measurement of Da'at, or even Maat.. The karmic weighing of balance..


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: BrendanFlock]
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Not necessarily, but there are few avenues in western society to go so deep that an ego death results. We're hardly a society of monks and saddhus.

Most trippers never had anything like an ego death though.

What everyone calls ego death for the most part is "egoloss", a peaceful process that merely is your ego dozing off to sleep rather than a death experience forcing a hard reset. Its lice comparing being waterboarded with splashing water in your face in the morning.

Not the same by a mile.

True ego death by its nature involves the completely unacceptable being forced on you until you succcumb into surrender.


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Not necessarily, but there are few avenues in western society to go so deep that an ego death results. We're hardly a society of monks and saddhus.

Most trippers never had anything like an ego death though.

What everyone calls ego death for the most part is "egoloss", a peaceful process that merely is your ego dozing off to sleep rather than a death experience forcing a hard reset. Its lice comparing being waterboarded with splashing water in your face in the morning.

Not the same by a mile.

True ego death by its nature involves the completely unacceptable being forced on you until you succcumb into surrender.



Why then do you seem to desire to play at such a boundary? Have you not been made privy as to the consequences of such action in your 'travels'?

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Returning from my second fully committed Ego Death sequence in two weeks time.



Bold....
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I want this over with.

Everything I want and hope for is in the Transpersonal realm.

I need to cross the valley of the shadow of Ego death.

Bring it on.



You want to die?

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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: r00tcmplx] * 3
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You don't understand the process I'm in.

If you do psychedelic sessions, at first you get abstract trips, then biographic ones, processing your life, then you process the birth trauma, then finally you go through a series of Ego Death sequences of increasing surrender, then that clears for good and you are in the Transpersonal realm.

One of my main reasons for tripping the past 25 years has been to get into that transpersonal realm, to get the biographic, perinatal and ego death sequences behind me.

Its like a kundalini awakening, its a gruelling process but its going somewhere very worthwhile.

You don't physically die, thats the thing, instead you are psychologically and spiritually reborn within thisw lifetime.

Thats something VERY big.


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
You don't understand the process I'm in.

If you do psychedelic sessions, at first you get abstract trips, then biographic ones, processing your life, then you process the birth trauma, then finally you go through a series of Ego Death sequences of increasing surrender, then that clears for good and you are in the Transpersonal realm.

One of my main reasons for tripping the past 25 years has been to get into that transpersonal realm, to get the biographic, perinatal and ego death sequences behind me.

Its like a kundalini awakening, its a gruelling process but its going somewhere very worthwhile.

You don't physically die, thats the thing, instead you are psychologically and spiritually reborn within thisw lifetime.

That's something VERY big.



Very interesting. You indeed seem well traveled, experienced, and quite coherent about your travels and desired destination. Would you say its possible to experience these all in one go? It would be a hellavuh ride but what do you imagine this : Transpersonal realm is like? How do you imagine the state of being 'rebooted' sort to speak in this lifetime in your mature body/mind? What are the pros/cons? What changes? I'm with you all the way up to the 'Transpersonal realm' reboot/embodiment. Can you provide more detail?

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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante] * 1
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Time eternal awaits your response Asante

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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: r00tcmplx] * 2
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Would you say its possible to experience these all in one go?




Yes but then you can only scratch the surface. The psychedelic closest to giving you "everything" is in my experience Mescaline. Mescaline is my #1 psychedelic/.

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what do you imagine this : Transpersonal realm is like?



Your life becomes centerede around the mystical, your paranormal abilities increase, you are able to transcend the commonly defined limits of the personal (therefore, transpersonal)
Just about every trip will result in a mystical experience.

I already have very much of this bleeding into my life (as you probably can tell by many of my posts, I'm heavily engaged with non-ordinary realities)

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How do you imagine the state of being 'rebooted' sort to speak in this lifetime in your mature body/mind?



You are mostly beyond your hangups of this life - this already happened to a great extent.

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What are the pros/cons?



PRO: you're in a kind of enlightened state.
CON: the people around you show a more marked contrast with this.

Not that you'll be :snub: in fact quite the contrary, but if you are the most-something or the least-something in your world, you are surrounded by those who fall short in those regards. If you are the most honest guy in your surroundings, by contrast you are surrounded by crooks more so than you would be if you weren't at the aphex. The sun shines bright and hot, but it does so in a vacuum of space that is ice cold and absorbs all light withour reciprocating light or heat. Its not at all you look down on others, quite the contrary, but the communication gap grows.

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What changes?



Something akin to a Near Death Experience happens, you work through your shit and can now focus on the matters that matter without being bogged down.
You work through your shit with psychedelic therapy.

Trips are heavy workouts for your mind and spirit. Do them right and you become a ripped athlete, in the mental/spiritual sense.


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante]
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Thank you so very much for your detailed responses and original framing of the experience and progressions. I have some things to consider/reflect on. Cheers
:raisemyglass:

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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: r00tcmplx]
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I think there's a huge difference between self ego identity when alone.. vs out in the public realm.. I feel I'm cusping on something huge..


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante]
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Asante, i'm sure you've posted this before, but what kinds of activities do you usually do while you are on a trip?

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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: thealienthatategod]
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Physically, I either sit in a chair or lie in my bed, eyes closed, no music, going inward - inward -inward.

What do I do inward?

Visit the spirit world, interact with spirits, perform magic, receive teachings from my spirits, wander through memories, do works of world magic, conceive plans for what to do with my life, hallucinate and synesthesia like theres no tomorrow -- and recently the ego death thing :smile:


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante] * 2
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Asante said:
Visit the spirit world, interact with spirits, perform magic, receive teachings from my spirits, wander through memories, do works of world magic, conceive plans for what to do with my life, hallucinate and synesthesia like theres no tomorrow -- and recently the ego death thing :smile:



Productivity in using the substance always yields positivity. :thumbup:

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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante]
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people aim to die, in order to live again. a constant cycle of death and rebirth. sure this happens on a extraordinary physical level...but also plays out metaphorically in our ascertainment of faculties, and also, presents within our consciousness as a self-feedback-loop.

hi Asante.

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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: akira_akuma]
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Hi :smile:


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Re: EGO DEATH part deux [Re: Asante]
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hey man. :awesome:

time wave zero is real. though to what extent, i don't know. perhaps what is "new" is really "old", and this cyclical motion is just an illusory amalgam of reconstitution of that which is recycled, or mayhaps, we literally evolve our consciousness in such leaps and bounds.

either way, i await new utterance. :uhoh:

i am perplexed.

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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: akira_akuma]
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THIRD EGO DEATH COMPLETED!

How to describe, it was nothing like either of the earlier Ego Death sequences. It was more involving, deeper I.. my *I* just faded out of the experience of Being. My *I* evaporated, through the singularity of Not Being, rebooting, experiences flowing through me.

I was coming out of my egg, bursting out of my cocoon, breaking the seed to let the seedling out, I was reborn like so many forms of life. I was the Universe buirsting olut of its big bang.

Its not as much I had ego death as - I HAVE HAD A SPIRITUAL REBIRTH!

I feel so reborn, renewed, replenished.

I'll recover, expand, find the new me, before diving back in on the mid March meditation.

Another Ego Death sequence completed, I'm definitely on the final run.

I feel so blessed so incredibly blessed to be who I am, here, now.

I LOVE YOU ALL <3



(...)

Just now had 7 hours of sleep, recovering. Oooooh myyyy whadda ride!


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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: Asante]
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what got you there?

what is a final run?

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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: thealienthatategod]
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Methoxetamine was my weapon of choice in 60mg rectal doses. I was so fullbown eager to undergo ego death that it wouldnt happen initially, my spirit guide told me "its supposed to be a CRISIS, not a situation you pull with full force toewards you! Go pay attention to nothing at all and it will come to you, instead of trying to draw it out. And it did.

It was more cvomplete than last time and the rebirth aspect was beibng more important than the death of it by far!  I identified with seedlings bursting out of their seed, insects coming out of their cocoon and of course the human birth process it was SO BEAUTIFUL.

My spirit guide tells me that at this rate I will probably have less than 10 ego death sequences, increasing in intensity, before I'm Clear, Clear being what Stanislav Grof descibes as:

"When experienced in its final and most complete form, ego death means an irreversible end to one's philosophical identification with what Alan Watts called skin-encapsulated ego."


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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: Asante]
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What I mean by "The Final Run" is where the Ego you constructed with all its fallacies and traps becomes just another voice in your head, one of your advisors, and you have become your higher self. Let that sink in for a moment. You no longe selfidentify with the smaller, at times petty, you, but with The Big Picture.

You become the Captain of your life, not the Helmsman.

Its something from Transpersonal psychology, after working through your life issues you get the the birth trauma, then at the end of that you gret a series of ever increasing ego deaths and then you are thrown clear and live up to a higher potential of you.


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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: Asante]
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but asante how do I have a ego death without any drugs.


I dont live in a jungle, im married, dont have kids but still you get the point, how do i do my job behind my laptop - software dev - and get high without weed and have a ego death


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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: banquet]
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It took me 25 years of tripping to get this far. Ego Death does not grow on trees.

You can try meditation or holotropic breathwork.


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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
It took me 25 years of tripping to get this far. Ego Death does not grow on trees.

You can try meditation or holotropic breathwork.



have done man,, but cant get the intensity... or if i do get the intensity then i cant get the space


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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: banquet]
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Quite  down pussy it took him 25 years you peon.
I eat an ounce of shrooms a day with no paranoia or nausea.
I cant remember who I was supposed to be
kiss my feet

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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: Love_spirit]
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Love_spirit said:
Quite  down pussy it took him 25 years you peon.
I eat an ounce of shrooms a day with no paranoia or nausea.
I cant remember who I was supposed to be
kiss my feet



who the hell are you, ...


who are you man

it  took him 25 i've doing since 10, buddha next door been doing since he was 5, relax bruv...

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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: banquet]
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Lets not fight in an Ego Death thread :hug:




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Re: EGO DEATH part 3 [Re: Asante]
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Yesterday I was unexpectedly called to trance, to complete my fourth Ego Death sequence. I went into the Spirit World, and the spirits from my immediate surroundings gathered around me, sprawled out in my chair, and sang to me and bestowed their blessings upon me as I peacefully and gracefullt descended into Ego Death, on my brother's birthday.

Notably, as often happens with my spirit world trances, the plants from my very modest garden invaded my living room, covering it wall to wall with foliage, ivy crawling all over the walls and ceiling, before my spirit eye (eyes open) converting my candle-lit room into a kind of natural forest grotto.

They sang a particular Wiccan chant to me, that I know from Starhawk's truly Magical book "The Spiral Dance", a chant that's been spiral dancing through my life since the 1980s.

The Earth, The Air, The Fire, The Water
Returns, Returns, Returns, Returns

Surrounded by spirit allies my Ego died a Magical Ego Death, which is to say that it both Did, and Didn't. At that moment, I and the whole situation were in superposition. We WERE the Magic, and therefore we were and weren't, and it happened and didnt happen at the same time.

THAT is Magic friends, THAT is Magic, and that is what I want to share with you.

Our reality consists of fixed states, either yes or no, and their outcomes are determined by us, the observer. But, equally so, behind the reality we perceive to be as solid as the screen of your phone or computer, reading this, is a state of Superposition where everything is both So and Not so, hidden from our perception. This Superposition, where everything Is and Isn't - is the realm of Magic, and it is a placve where we, you guessed it, both are and aren't - and which we can gain a level of access to.

Have you the faith the size of a mustard seed in the reality of this, required for you to work with it?

OM ALAIPSI !







EDIT: I've been going back and forth whether to tell this or not tell it, but I'll report it anyhow and let those who disbelieve, disbelieve and those who believe, believe.

As you imagined, the trance was facilitated by MXE a friend (strictly not a dealer, no money changes hands between us ever for anything) brought in a surprise visit. He brought a small vial of 500mg, a common fare for me, I asked my spirit guide and he advised me to take of it 300mg, so I went to fetch a lab vial and scales.



I have 2 lab vials for MXE in use, both empty, so picked one off a shelf, put it on the table, went to get the scales and.. the vial was gone. Not on the table. The friend shrugged it off, I thought A-ha! in regards to antics pulled earlier by my Nkondi.

I got the other empty vial, weighed 300mg, put it in the vial, we socialized, lubricated with weed for him and 20mg MXE for me, he left, and the aforementioned session unfolded.

After the session I slept a night, the next morning I woke up, :blahblah: at one point I asked my Nkondi where he put the vial.

He asked me "Where did I put the first MXE vial I translocated?" (several years ago) I looked there and lo! behold! there was the MXE vial.. but it was not empty. A small amount of powder was in there.

"MXE? For me?" "You got it. Just to make the deniability of the first time I translocated a MXE vial, years ago, less plausible. I did it again, a gift from me to you after a session that was all about Magic being Superposition."

I wanted to get the scales. "Stop right there!" he said. "How much MXE do you eyeball?" "Uh, a very low dose, maybe 5 or 10mg."  "But you don't know. Quantum physics Asante. If you weigh it, you quantify it and if it weighs in at 5mg it wont do much of anything will it? Right now its unquantified and therefore, an unknown quantity. It might well be 30mg you are misperceiving. Eyeballing error, you warn people for this.. Now it will work in your favor. Add water and briskly shake it to potentiate it with the ntent to make it stronger, like they do in homeopathy. Let's make the most of this."

I did so, collected the liquid, did an ingestion ritual and plugged it.

I sat down, closed my eyes and said thanks to all spirit allies and Divinity for the wonderful session, I decided to accompanying it with this Gratitude Nasheed playing on my phone.

Is it was done, *I* was done! I got beautiful closed eye visions that completed biographic and ego death gestalts of the night before, gabve me lots of insight and peace. It was easily as strong as 20mg, 4x as much as I had eyeballed.

Now, hours later, I'm still high on it.


MAKE OF THIS WHAT YOU WILL!

If it comforts you that I was deluded or am telling a fable to entertain you, let it be that. If you somehow believe what I believe, which is that to the best of my knowledge this happened as it happened (how certain can we be of anything?) then you might ponder this over perhaps a joint, a shroom or some quiet reflection.

In any case, enjoy.

I love you all :rainbowcloud:


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