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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Haunted by Death [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5801709 - 06/29/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hmmm...Im still quite unsettled about this situation, we can discuss it till were blue in the face, but until I can generate some actual, working practices to defend against this opressive demonic nature in his mind/spirit conundrum, then I am beggining to fear it will eventually lead him deeper into this dark paranoid reality. It seems to me, as much as he is trying through advise and research he just shake off this new reality consious which has over taken him nor can he ignore or tolerate it, its needs to be healed. God, Its all so very strange and disturbing and unfair.

I should mention that this man in his youth, would often experience "Night Terrors" and would wake up late at night, in an unconsious dream state, screaming his lungs out and crying, then in the morning would awake unaware of what had happened to him. Explain this...Repressed emotions? Repressed Fears? Fuck, what else do we do with them? How do you tell a fear to disappear, how do you defend against the thorns of the mind, things you can't see or touch? I think the greatest and most influential force in this case would be love, and freindship. I really see no other alternative. If calling out to a God who doesnt listen or care doesnt work, then the only way is through the presense of people.

Im beggining to distrust the spiritual realm more and more, it seems useless and man was never meant to have to deal with it. Its an imperfect structure and the "powers" are not friendly in my opinion. I just want to stop believing in everything and focus on life and the beuty of this world...Fuck death, fuck satan, let it wither into non-exsistence.

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MushshroomTrip - On the other hand, it can also be related in some cases with some energy attacks, which not only others can do to you, but sometimes you do them to yourself in an unconscious mode.

- Oh, I completely agree with you here. Its so unbelievable, I mean, sure we have in some degree a measure over our reality, bodies, minds and how we behave and think, but It has also occured to me, that perhaps the amount of consious and unconsious focus we force into our beliefs, imaginations, fears, in a group sense, Then those "things' would mysteriously manifest themselves onto the world, having given them strength and purpose they are released. The very act of believing and dedicating time into somthing, it is made exsistant. That is why all my life, I have ubstained from watching horror movies and morbid infulences, I never wanted them to get lodged into my fragile mindframe. I wanted to keep it full of good memories and peacefull thoughts. Somhow though, the evil's of this world have a grip over us, and whether it be were eternally cursed or without goodness in that sense, it can not simply be "persuaded" away. I dislike that I can't even act kind and show love without being taken advantage of, or mis-interpreted. (not insinuating anyone here, you guys are super genious and most sincere to take the time and help me with this. Peace and Wealth be with you. )

Capliberty - I seen a woman doing this exact thing at the bus stop yesterday. It was a strange synchronicity, but she was basically talking to her imaginary friend, and seemed to be enjoying it quite naturally. Perhaps in certain cases the spirit of grace helps people who "are alone" compinsate by...making them aware of ... ?? It is evident of people who have been imprisoned and without human contact for many many years, what becomes of these people? Insanity? Is it just another form of bilogical functioning ? or mis-functioning?

Markos - I dont see myself wishing to read this book, unless you can argue it will help give insight into the nature of demonic experiences to help shelter against them. I might not be ready or prepared to understand it fully at this moment. Im already a believer, I dont need to get crazy deep. I've read you are a practicing para-psychologist, I value your opinion and your intrest in this thread, what would be the safest thing you would advise, asides from visit a professional, for me to relay to this man? Somthing which asides from knowledge and understanding will help him defeat it ?

The average person would think this all quite sureal, but If evil does have form and exsists, what a curse this is, what a terrible ancient curse. I wish I was an average person.


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Re: Haunted by Death [Re: WIZOLZ]
    #5803260 - 06/29/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"Markos - I dont see myself wishing to read this book, unless you can argue it will help give insight into the nature of demonic experiences to help shelter against them. I might not be ready or prepared to understand it fully at this moment. Im already a believer, I dont need to get crazy deep. I've read you are a practicing para-psychologist, I value your opinion and your intrest in this thread, what would be the safest thing you would advise, asides from visit a professional, for me to relay to this man? Somthing which asides from knowledge and understanding will help him defeat it ?"

WIZOLZ -
It sounds from the emotional tenor of your posts that you are actually talking of first-hand experience, not a friend's experience. If I am wrong, please correct me, but you seem very involved. The greatest defense against anything demonic is the Light of Truth, so complete honesty is a manifestation of Truth.

Truth in human interactions means 'honesty,' and Truth in Ultimate (metaphysical) things means 'Reality.' In Truth, who we are (Really) is a being who is inseparable from all of Being. If that is the Truth, then evil can destroy our body (or our embodied mind) but it cannot destroy us spiritually. Spiritual strength stands and falls upon our capacity for Truth - for our capacity to realize (make real) the Truth of who we are and what is Real. This is why movie vampires (demons) cringe before the symbol of the cross, which refers to Jesus, Who refers to Truth ("I am the Way and the Truth and the Life.") However, the wielder of the cross has to himself realize the symbolic meaning - the Light of Truth which dispels all darkness. Demons have less Reality than we have, or less God is another way of putting it. Demons manifest partial Reality, we as humans are capable of manifesting the "Superabundant Reality" which is God. With God in us (Christ) we can banish demons with the Reality of who we are as 'earthen vessels' that contain Divinity. In other words, it is what we are not what we do that dispels darkness. Become a Light for others.


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Re: Haunted by Death [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5806159 - 06/30/06 07:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Marvelous Post Markos...I couldn't feel more called today to act in accordance to the light of truth...I see there can be no other way. A person can run and run and drown into unconsious bliss, imprisoning fear, but the real differences are made during moments of truth...Times when the drowning stops and you can trust in the process of learning and strength, how to reach the surface? An act of faith? sure...In a second.

There is much wisdom and truth in your message. I believe it, you must also. Everyday is important, when you realise that the turning of life never stops, choices are made and things change, personal choice's, global choices...How do we shape them, what do we allow to guide us through this life? Why are they important ?

In this world, Many people seek but are lead astray, many people know but are afraid to say, fear is a demon and Im fighting it right now. It's all quite unjust I think, but after much debate I've seen what you are trying to do, though I did ask for it.

You have a powerful way of transforming a persons arguments against them, even if it will be used for good...I think it would be wise of me now to talk some truths, Because I feel downright trapped...Yes, many of these recollections have been told are about myself. In pursuit for answers I neglected the value of sincerity, I had forgotten of this lesson...Please though, do not judge me. This is a testimony of release, which became an act of reprentence, which is now an appology. If this is what I am, and by knowing what I am dispells the forces opressing me, let it be so.

Though releasing any form of truth makes a person naked, it's probably one of the most powerfull and healing energies. Truth to one's self and others and living up to that. Thanks for guiding me through that phase.


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