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Catalysis
EtherealEngineer

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Re: death [Re: Gomp]
#5136981 - 01/03/06 11:11 PM (18 years, 28 days ago) |
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""i believe death as an immediate end to your being. to all that is you.""
being, dead...
LOL
How can you BE dead?
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Catalysis
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There is a part of us which interacts with the environment called the ego. There is yet another part which exists in the actions we have already performed. Every penny that you pick up and toss across the street becomes a part of you that will never die. Our souls, they are ever fleeting. We do not even exist, yet we are immortal.
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rogue_pixie
faerydae


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Quote:
Unagipie said:Life and Death should be a friend to all. In life there is discovery of the self. In death there is liberation of the self.
That made me smile.
-------------------- "Whatever you do, you need to keep moving. Because when you stop moving you die (physically and emotionally). Good luck and blessings of happiness and fortune." ~ RandalFlagg RIP
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greenlittlepill
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Re: death [Re: Deviate]
#8301004 - 04/18/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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WRONG.... i flatlined twice on the way to the hospital, and saw 2 angels, they told me to follow them, but then stopped me (cuz th dr's saved my life)...i know there is more after we die
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Chronic7

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The trick is to mentally die before you phsycially die, then you realise immortality
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godfather89
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Re: death [Re: Metasyn]
#8301586 - 04/18/08 04:22 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its hard to what happens after we die... We can say we see the light and call it God and science will say its just a physiological response to death while a more spiritual person could say its the reaction of the body being separated from the soul or spirit. Like the esoteric axiom: As above so below, As within so without
The physical response of nerves shooting off can be from a spiritual response of letting go of the broken body.
-------------------- "What people Don't Know Will Hurt them"
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dorkus
don't look back
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Quote:
godfather89 said: Its hard to what happens after we die... We can say we see the light and call it God and science will say its just a physiological response to death while a more spiritual person could say its the reaction of the body being separated from the soul or spirit. Like the esoteric axiom: As above so below, As within so without
The physical response of nerves shooting off can be from a spiritual response of letting go of the broken body.
Reminds me of an interview I saw last night:
[url=&q=andrew+newberg&ei=TWYJSMvJKor6-gHC45W9BA]Clickey[/url]
It is an interview with Andrew Newberg who teaches at the University of Pennsylvania Medical School. Pretty good stuff.
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ZackWyldeFan
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Re: death [Re: dorkus]
#8303845 - 04/19/08 09:12 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I beleive when A person dies in this world, a new life is born on another planet.
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Chronic7

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Simply id say death is the last bit of intense suffering before merging with cosmic consciousness/god/love, then being reborn on another plane/planet, probably this one.
Thats why im so on at people to consciously die while they are still alive so they can cherish life in its entirity. Helping your mum embrace death would be a beautiful thing, i can only imagine the internal fear of knowing you will actually die soon, it must be tremendous. Like i can consciously die in meditation & i fele no fear of death after as you realise the immortality of life, but i bet if a doctor told me i got 2 months left id shit myself on the spot.
Cherish all the time with your mother, my mums got leukemia and has baffled all the doctors by surviving. I sometimes forget every year could be her last.
I like the bill hicks quote in the first reply...
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The Joker
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Hello my friend,
I am very sorry to hear those sad news.
I just came back from the Amazon Rain Forest and my initiation with Ayahuasca with a Shaman. The experience really made me a very close and intimate contact to myself. Its kind of hard to explain but it really felt great. I got a small glimps what it may feels to be dead or die. Since then I really don't have such a big fear to die anymore. The experience was different compared to the mushroom, however I think its the same realm or universe you get -no matter what you use, a mushroom or something else. I think there is nothing to fear. Reading a lot of Near Death Experience Reports, I am absolutely convinced that it's great and not bad. Almost all of the accounts would like to stay dead and not get brought back into the world again. That tells a lot. And forget religion, its man made. The good news is, there is no hell - only unconditional love, thats at least how I feel about it.
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godfather89
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Just to say as a general rule of thumb we the world as a duality. Part of spiritual belief is that everything is connected and has a purpose and a reason, their is a oneness of being.
So that would mean that Life and Death (The duality) are two sides of the same coin and that would mean life isnt life and death isnt death. So the spiritual idea is that there is something beyond the body.
When you are alive your life maybe dead, you maybe dead to the world, like the idea of how a prostitute is a dead person, sure they maybe alive but there lifestyle is so mundane and basic that there not really living life. When your dead as part of the belief your not dead in fact what dies is this social construct called ego (What you like and dislike) more so than personality (how you act and what you think about) which in part dies but consciousness lives on.
Part of my Gnostic beliefs with this issue is that:
- Ego is illusory and is unstable and impermanent, it is death and death swallows itself up.
- The personality can either influence or be influenced by the ego. It can be an ignorant wonder or redeemed.
- The spirit which is ultimately your highest self is what is permanent and this represents consciousness it is the center of it all.
If you noticed the spirit which represents consciousness represents the awareness itself. While the personality which represents soul and Ego which represents the carnal nature need to be made aware of themselves, you need to be aware of the fact you "like this or dislike that" you need to be aware that "your acting like this or thinking about that."
So consciousness according to this belief exist and your personality can choose to exist if it wishes to be redeemed while your carnal concerns dies when your body dies.
-------------------- "What people Don't Know Will Hurt them"
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