Threads from God89 said:

        Its just too inefficient for me to run my furnace any more than that with these winter temps!!! 

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mushboy said:

subs too wet

that seems to be the constant veritable i encounter when im dealing with a 'shorties' grow. an 1/8th of those buggers will fry you good though.

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Dynamite comes in small packages!

Threads from God89 said:

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thats from a wet sub. no doubt in my opinion. look that the mushroom

these are genetically small imo.

but they still look normal.

threadz shroom in the pic doesnt look normal. it looks like it came off a soaked sub. isolation talk is in this case id say.

hamloaf said:

Unless working with a single strain isolate results are inconclusive.  Genetic variance is the major contributing factor the size differentiation of the above compared fruits.

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Right.... I was just basing my assumptions on the fact that I am fruiting two varieties, and both are fruiting the same way, with these little midgets, lol, and the only constant since IT IS multi-spore is the low fruiting temperatures.....

      This is the tub that the mushie pictured came from: (dark blue spot is where it was)... I picked one of the most mature as an example:




  I have only misted this tub lightly once today and once yesterday.... So I don't think my conditions are too wet... Do they appear to be to you guys??  It's been about two and a half hours since today's only light misting..... I was actually thinking about misting more just to try and force the fruits to take up water! (Wishful thinking, I know!!).

                Thank you friends!!!

mushboy said:

Threads from God89 said:

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thats from a wet sub. no doubt in my opinion. look that the mushroom

these are genetically small imo.

but they still look normal.

threadz shroom in the pic doesnt look normal. it looks like it came off a soaked sub. isolation talk is in this case id say.

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With two separate multispore inoculations, to say genetic variance isn't the main contributing factor of fruit size differentiation is bad information. 

Threads from God89 said:

hamloaf said:

Unless working with a single strain isolate results are inconclusive.  Genetic variance is the major contributing factor the size differentiation of the above compared fruits.

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Right.... I was just basing my assumptions on the fact that I am fruiting two varieties, and both are fruiting the same way, with these little midgets, lol, and the only constant since IT IS multi-spore is the low fruiting temperatures.....

      This is the tub that the mushie pictured came from: (dark blue spot is where it was)... I picked one of the most mature as an example:




  I have only misted this tub lightly once today and once yesterday.... So I don't think my conditions are too wet... Do they appear to be to you guys??  It's been about two and a half hours since today's only light misting..... I was actually thinking about misting more just to try and force the fruits to take up water! (Wishful thinking, I know!!).

                Thank you friends!!!

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Increase FAE if "forcing" the fruits to take up more water is desired.  The addition of more water, manually, will encourage an over saturation situation.

hamloaf said:

With two separate multispore inoculations, to say genetic variance isn't the main contributing factor of fruit size differentiation is bad information. 

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in terms of what we can control? the subs moisture content is the most important. and the factor in threadz'z pics. inconclusive my butt

hes too wet.

Mateah said:

Unless he used spores that came from stabilized short ass fruits, I dont really see how this can be an issue of short genetics

He has really short fruits from 2 different varieties over several different tubs, how can that be genetic? It show all the traits of being environmental to me.

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mushboy said:

i literally grew an identical tub just like threadz tub. ill find if a pic if i got it.

either we have a shared isolate ourselves or BOTH our subs were too wet. which is more likely?

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mushboy said:

misting a tub too much vs soaked substrate, are way different imo. maybe its not the conditions.. but the wetsub

if your substrate is too dry/drying out from fruit growth, you should bottom water. not mist.
i sure as shit promise you those tiny things didnt use all the water they can.. if anything?? too much water ...equals stunted growth

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Ok..... Now we might be getting to somethin'! Lol...... It is possible my sub is overly hydrated now that I think about it.  It is pretty heavy.... And my last tub was heavy as well, the sub didn't even really need to be dunked after the first flush but I dunked it anyway!  It produced really short fruits similar to this one even tho different variety.... And that's another one of my "constants", the way I get my sub ready, so maybe I did have too much water in my sub to begin with!!!  Damn.....

        I guess the only thing I could do would be to pop out the whole sub carefully, pull the liner down off of the sides and let the sub breathe and kinda shed and evaporate some moisture overnight huh?  I wonder if that would even be worth doing tho...?  Would it be beneficial???  .....

        Got these little dudes hangin' out in these shoeboxes too!



  Tallest one is about an inch and a half!!!!  Maybe my sub is a little too watery...?  Could be it.

Mateah said:

Unless he used spores that came from stabilized short ass fruits, I dont really see how this can be an issue of short genetics

He has really short fruits from 2 different varieties over several different tubs, how can that be genetic? It show all the traits of being environmental to me.

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hamloaf said:

Luck of the draw.


Genetic variance.

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