koods said:

Republicans vote against their own self interests all the time, so an illegal supporting trump wouldn't surprise me. What I think is funny is that apparently trump illegals can't vote, but Clinton ones turned out in record numbers. That's a real pretzel.

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koods said:

Republicans vote against their own self interests all the time,

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starfire_xes said:

koods said:

Republicans vote against their own self interests all the time,

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Look at the Democrats voted for the Iraq war.  They vote against YOUR self interests.  Because all of them are imperialist stooges.

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Starfire thats the most sensible thing I have seen you post. . Its incredible how right wing the democrats are and yet people keep calling them leftists its hilarious.

Cyrus19 said:

Whatever qman is smoking I want some

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I'm sure you do, I have some very kind buds. 

Enlil said:

Terence McKenna was an idiot, though

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koods said:

Republicans vote against their own self interests all the time, so an illegal supporting trump wouldn't surprise me. What I think is funny is that apparently trump illegals can't vote, but Clinton ones turned out in record numbers. That's a real pretzel.

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Take advertising on television, for example. Economics 101 teaches us that markets are supposed to be based on “informed consumers making rational choices.” If we had a market system like that, then a television ad would consist of, says, General Motors putting up information saying “here’s what we have for sale.” But that’s not what an ad for a car is. And ad for a car is a football hero; an actress; the car doing some crazy thing like going up a mountain or something. The point is to create uninformed consumers who will make irrational choices.

And when the same institution — the PR system — runs elections, they do it the same way. They want to create an uninformed electorate, which will make irrational choices, often against their own interests.
Right after the election, President Obama won an award from the Advertising industry for the best marketing campaign and the International Business Press executives were euphoric.
-Noam Chomsky

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Right through American history there’s been an ongoing clash between pressure for more freedom and democracy coming from below and efforts of elite control and domination coming from above, which goes back to the founding of the United States. James Madison, the main framer, felt the U.S. system should be designed so that power should be in the hands of the wealthy because they’re the more responsible set of men. Therefore, the structure of the formal constitutional system placed most power in the hands of the Senate. At the time the Senate was not elected; it was selected from the wealthy — men as Madison put it had sympathy for property owners and their rights.
During the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Madison expressed that the major concern of the society had to be to “protect the minority of the opulent against the majority”. Indeed, suppose everyone had to vote freely… If they had the liberty to do so, then the majority of the poor would get together and organize to take away the property of the rich, which to Madison would have obviously been unjust. Therefore, the constitutional system had to be set up in a way to prevent democracy. 
-noam Chomsky

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One of the leading political scientists, Martin Gilens, came out with a study of the relation between public attitudes and public policy which shows that about 70% of the population has no way of influencing policy. They might as well be in some other country… And the population knows it.

This has led to an angrier and more frustrated population that hates institutions and is not acting constructively to respond to this. There is popular mobilization and activism, but in very self-destructive directions. It’s taking the form of unfocused anger, attacks on one another, and on vulnerable targets. That’s what happens in cases like this. It is corrosive of social relations, but that’s the point. The point is to make people hate and fear each other, and look out only for themselves, and don’t do anything for anyone else.

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Culturally defined reality is some kind of intelligence test, and those who are joining are failing the test.” -Terence mckenna

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One of the leading political scientists, Martin Gilens, came out with a study of the relation between public attitudes and public policy which shows that about 70% of the population has no way of influencing policy. They might as well be in some other country… And the population knows it.
-noam Chomsky

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