relic said:

same guy, Dick Black of our VA state senate representing one of my old haunts, also had this to say about Assad, backing up what you previously posted about Tulsi Gabbord saying similar stuff after her visit to Syria.

he's also a regular american vietnam war hero:

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Black served as a pilot in the US Marines during the Vietnam War, earning the Purple Heart medal.[1] He flew 269 combat helicopter missions with HMM-362’s “Ugly Angels” squadron, which operated out of Ky Ha, Vietnam.[2]

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and i've got no reason to doubt him as long as those quotes are true/accurate.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

The US is now determined to split Syria in two.  I hope it doesn't lead to war with the Syrian Government or Russia...

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The Ecstatic said:

'Syrian Democratic Forces' lol. I guess 'Free Syrian Army' wasnt freedomy enough.

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Syrian women carry water in the village of Bir Saeed on the outskirts of Raqa on February 7, 2017, after Syrian Democratic Forces retook control of the village.

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The war in Syria is not a fight for democracy. The U.S. is fighting alongside and supporting the cause of 80,000 jihadis from 90 different countries. Nearly a half-million Syrians have died in the war fueled by this sinister worldwide participation.

The U.S. is equipping terrorists who keep changing their name, but the game is the same: To unite and achieve a radical Islamic fundamentalist takeover of the region.

Billions of U.S. tax dollars have helped spawn this war, creating death and misery, massive migrations of refugees and immigration crises.

The U.S. presence in Syria is an illegal act of war. It violates international law and it is unconstitutional. Syria did not invite the U.S. to come in. Congress has not approved it. Syria has been fighting Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, ISIS and other radical Islamic terror groups to whom Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and the U.S. have given direct and indirect aid.

ISIS and the other terrorist groups can be defeated by cutting off their funds, which is exactly what Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s just-introduced bill, the Stop Arming Terrorists Act (HR 608), aims to do. A companion bill, S. 532, has been introduced in the Senate by Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.

Most of the media is fueling the war, unwittingly becoming a mouthpiece for the masterful, intelligent propagandists of jihadi groups whose “humanitarian” messaging permeates every level of social media. It tugs at the conscience of caring people while masking the reality of violent subjugation and religious extremism that propels their movement.

A deeper question needs to be asked: Why is it U.S. policy to upend Syrian society, whose tradition has been to respect freedom of worship by people of all faiths, and replace it with religious extremism?

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

This is a few months old, but I don't think it's been posted here yet.  Dennis Kucinich is THE MAN.

Dennis Kucinich: Why are we at war in Syria?

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The war in Syria is not a fight for democracy. The U.S. is fighting alongside and supporting the cause of 80,000 jihadis from 90 different countries. Nearly a half-million Syrians have died in the war fueled by this sinister worldwide participation.

The U.S. is equipping terrorists who keep changing their name, but the game is the same: To unite and achieve a radical Islamic fundamentalist takeover of the region.

Billions of U.S. tax dollars have helped spawn this war, creating death and misery, massive migrations of refugees and immigration crises.

The U.S. presence in Syria is an illegal act of war. It violates international law and it is unconstitutional. Syria did not invite the U.S. to come in. Congress has not approved it. Syria has been fighting Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, ISIS and other radical Islamic terror groups to whom Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and the U.S. have given direct and indirect aid.

ISIS and the other terrorist groups can be defeated by cutting off their funds, which is exactly what Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s just-introduced bill, the Stop Arming Terrorists Act (HR 608), aims to do. A companion bill, S. 532, has been introduced in the Senate by Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.

Most of the media is fueling the war, unwittingly becoming a mouthpiece for the masterful, intelligent propagandists of jihadi groups whose “humanitarian” messaging permeates every level of social media. It tugs at the conscience of caring people while masking the reality of violent subjugation and religious extremism that propels their movement.

A deeper question needs to be asked: Why is it U.S. policy to upend Syrian society, whose tradition has been to respect freedom of worship by people of all faiths, and replace it with religious extremism?

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

This is a few months old, but I don't think it's been posted here yet.  Dennis Kucinich is THE MAN.

Dennis Kucinich: Why are we at war in Syria?

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The war in Syria is not a fight for democracy. The U.S. is fighting alongside and supporting the cause of 80,000 jihadis from 90 different countries. Nearly a half-million Syrians have died in the war fueled by this sinister worldwide participation.

The U.S. is equipping terrorists who keep changing their name, but the game is the same: To unite and achieve a radical Islamic fundamentalist takeover of the region.

Billions of U.S. tax dollars have helped spawn this war, creating death and misery, massive migrations of refugees and immigration crises.

The U.S. presence in Syria is an illegal act of war. It violates international law and it is unconstitutional. Syria did not invite the U.S. to come in. Congress has not approved it. Syria has been fighting Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, ISIS and other radical Islamic terror groups to whom Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and the U.S. have given direct and indirect aid.

ISIS and the other terrorist groups can be defeated by cutting off their funds, which is exactly what Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s just-introduced bill, the Stop Arming Terrorists Act (HR 608), aims to do. A companion bill, S. 532, has been introduced in the Senate by Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.

Most of the media is fueling the war, unwittingly becoming a mouthpiece for the masterful, intelligent propagandists of jihadi groups whose “humanitarian” messaging permeates every level of social media. It tugs at the conscience of caring people while masking the reality of violent subjugation and religious extremism that propels their movement.

A deeper question needs to be asked: Why is it U.S. policy to upend Syrian society, whose tradition has been to respect freedom of worship by people of all faiths, and replace it with religious extremism?

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SirTripAlot said:

The Dems would do much bettter if they headed his stances....to include Syria and the whole Russian investigation

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The text of the bill is simple. It merely states that it prohibits the use of federal agency funds to provide covered assistance to: (1) Al Qaeda, Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), or any individual or group that is affiliated with, associated with, cooperating with, or adherents to such groups; or (2) the government of any country that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) determines has, within the most recent 12 months, provided covered assistance to such a group or individual.

It is quite possibly the simplest and most rational bill ever proposed by Congress.

After nearly 5 months since its introduction, only 13 of the 535 members of Congress have signed on as co-sponsors.

To add insult to treason and murder, Senator Rand Paul [R-KY] introduced this same legislation in the Senate. He currently has zero cosponsors.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Bill To ‘Stop Arming Terrorists’ Gets Only 13 Supporters

I'm surprised (and happy) to learn that my own representative is one of the few co-sponsors.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Bill To ‘Stop Arming Terrorists’ Gets Only 13 Supporters

I'm surprised (and happy) to learn that my own representative is one of the few co-sponsors.

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I'm even more surprised to learn that Trump went ahead and stopped funding terrorists in Syria anyway:

Trump Ends CIA Program Of Funding Terrorists In Syria

Trump Finally Stops Arming Terrorists in Syria

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The Ecstatic said:

Yeah, nice of the guy accused of colluding with Russia to make a move which alleviates military pressure on Russia and its ally in the conflict.


For the record, i agree with the move.  But do we really think Trump gives a fuck about arming bad guys when he was just circlejerking the Sauds?

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who cares? So long as money isn't being wasted in useless pursuits.
Best thing the U.S can do is pull out of that region, pull out hard, leave the mess to Russia (and the oil lol)

Trump bombs Assad airfield = doesn't disprove collusion.
Trump stops funding rebels = proves collusion.