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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
The Ecstatic said:
Syrian Democratic Forces lol. I guess Free Syrian Army wasnt freedomy enough.

I just hope the US starts funding the Free Syrians for a Democratic Free Democracy of Freedom Army soon because theyre our only hope against the bloodthirsty psychopath Assad.



When you call Assad "a bloodthirsty psychopath" for defending his country from Muslim extremism, while the US provides support for them, are you being sarcastic?

The US constantly interferes whenever Assad has the Muslim extremists in retreat.  It appears Russia has finally had enough US lip service of how we want to help fight Islamic extremism.  It's obviously not true, we're simply interested in removing Assad so we can take control of Syria.



I was being sarcastic :lmafo:


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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:smile:


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Interesting; past engagement:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/19/world/middleeast/russia-syria.html?

One previously undisclosed confrontation followed a drone attack on June 8 on American-supported Syrians patrolling alongside their coalition advisers. The weapon was a Shahed 129 drone made by Iran, though American officials said they do not know who directed it.

An American F-15E shot down the drone, which had dropped a bomb that missed its target. But a Syrian warplane appeared hours later and began maneuvering to bomb the American-backed fighters, only to be intercepted by an American F/A-18 jet.

“When the airplane got close to where he wanted to deliver his bombs, he realized he had an F/A-18 behind it,” said Lt. Gen. Jeffrey L. Harrigian, who runs the coalition’s air war and described the episode.

Instead of attacking, the Syrian SU-22 zoomed away, and the Americans did not attack.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Edited by SirTripAlot (06/19/17 10:28 PM)

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
ballsalsa said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russia-threatens-to-treat-us-coalition-aircraft-as-targets-over-syria/2017/06/19/95e87428-54ca-11e7-9e18-968f6ad1e1d3_story.html?utm_term=.96aba7d4b8f2
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MOSCOW — Russia on Monday angrily condemned the downing of a Syrian aircraft by a U.S. fighter as a “flagrant violation of international law,” and said its forces will treat U.S.-led coalition aircraft and drones as targets if they are operating in Syrian airspace west of the Euphrates while Russian aviation is on combat missions.



these assholes are playing chicken, and they might end up getting a lot of people killed.



Obviously you're talking about the US, right?



I'm talking about everyone engaged in the region, but yes, especially the U.S.
This shit is getting dangerous for a broader spectrum of people day by day.  It could get biblical (figuratively) at any time. Turkey already shot a russian jet.  I'm pretty sure they've carried out airstrikes against our on again off again friends, the Kurds.  We shot down a (iranian?)drone.  Iran just fired some missiles over iraq into syria. We blew up a syrian airfield, a convoy of syrian trucks and apc's and shit, and now we've shot down a syrian plane.  Now russia says the might shoot down our planes if we aren't careful.  Meanwhile, a bunch of different states are blockading Qatar, so iran and turkey are jumping to the rescue with the middle eastern version of the berlin airlift.
The whole region is a powder keg, and there are a lot of guys holding matches real close.

the only sensible thing for the U.S. to do at this point is retreat to the seas,  reaffirm our mastery of them, and declare that good enough.  If we absolutely have to poke anyone in the eye on our way out, we can do it with a blockade of our own.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
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Meh.  I'm not worried about Russia.  Falcon told me that they are wonderful, peace-loving people.


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Enlil]
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I'm sure they're great, but people tend to get nervous when they're having mexican standoffs.
there are a lot of people pointing guns at each other in the saloon that is the middle east, and i don't think there are tables big enough to flip over and hide behind if the shit pops off for real.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
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For yearssssss people have been crying WWIII is around the corner.
Neither Russia nor the U.S is dopey enough to shoot each other down over some stupid conflict in Syria where they're both playing proxy war anyway.

The U.S will ignore that stupid warning and keep flying.
Russia will ignore the U.S and all will be well.

5 shrooms says nothing happens.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Cinnamon]
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Cinnamon said:
5 shrooms says nothing happens.



I hope you're right.  Shit's getting tense though.  The US doesn't want Russia/Syria to push back the religious extremists.


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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (06/20/17 10:01 AM)

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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:popcorn:


:drunkdriver:


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: demiu5]
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Russia's little no fly zone is just posturing, they gotta assure their allies they have their backs right after America shoots down a Syrian jet.


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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I think Russia just wants to end this civil war, and the US keeps getting in the way.

Just like in Afghanistan, we're siding with the religious extremist rebels instead of the legitimate Government.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I think Russia just wants to end this civil war, and the US keeps getting in the way.

Just like in Afghanistan, we're siding with the religious extremist rebels instead of the legitimate Government.







can it be any clearer?


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: demiu5]
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:thumbup:

Assad said "They (Americans) didn't succeed anywhere they sent troops.  They only created a mess.  They are very good in creating problems and destroying, but are very bad at finding solutions."


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Here are some pictures of Damascus now that Russia helped push the religious extremists rebels out.  This is what America is fighting against, as we side with the religious extremists there:

14 photos that show what the nightlife is like in Damascus, Syria's war-torn capital













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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (06/20/17 12:34 PM)

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: demiu5] * 2
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0:38 "...near the Syrian city of Man-Bitch"


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I think Russia just wants to end this civil war, and the US keeps getting in the way.

Just like in Afghanistan, we're siding with the religious extremist rebels instead of the legitimate Government.



And have the nerve to call our side the Democratic Forces :facepalm:


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Wow, Newsweek even posted an opinion article that sides with Russia on this:

Russia v. U.S. in Syria. Who Holds the Legal High Ground?

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The U.S. claims to have shot down the Syrian warplane on Sunday in collective self-defense of Coalition partnered forces. Now, the United Nations Charter recognizes that States have an inherent right of collective self-defense. However, under the UN Charter,  collective self-defense refers to  defense of another state, not defense of non-state actors.

Of course, the SDF fights on behalf of the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria, which is not recognized as a state, even by the United States. So the U.S. claim that this strike is an exercise of collective self-defense  of Coalition partnered forces seems not merely false but confused.

Now, if the Coalition’s sole mission were to defeat ISIS in Iraq and Syria, then it might have a novel but plausible legal position.

The most obvious problem with this rationale is that it is far from clear that the Coalition’s sole mission is to defeat ISIS. Both  Rex Tillerson and  Nikki Haley have indicated that regime change remains a U.S. strategic objective.




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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Here are some pictures of Damascus now that Russia helped push the religious extremists rebels out.  This is what America is fighting against, as we side with the religious extremists there:

14 photos that show what the nightlife is like in Damascus, Syria's war-torn capital





they need more freedom...to get more and better hair dye & cosmetologists for their womenz.  FREE SYRIA, oh wait...

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: relic] * 3
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After seeing those pictures, I'm leaning toward supporting the religious extremists.


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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in war, people are still people. war is all about proxy-wars for economic gain, so many players are funnelling to so many people, but yet people can't see through the smoke-screen of politics.

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