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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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I must confess I have a great fondness for Periodic Element 79, GOLD.

Its not about that it's worth a lot of money, it is the history humankind shares with Gold and the many symbolisms, spiritual and earthly, surrounding the yellow metal.

It is the Chalice of Christian Mass, the Kiddush cup of Judaism, it is the dome of the Islamic Mosque, it is the death mask of Tutankhamen, it is holy in every religion that knows it.

Of Gold, my most favored form is the Krugerrand:




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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Asante]
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Isn't it like 2:30pm where you're at?


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Connoisseur said:
oh ive cried on drugs

sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Asante]
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Good call Asante, I knew you'd have something cool like that if you chipped in. Gold is definitely special. I imagine you haven't enough of the stuff to have one of those bars sitting round though!

I heard at one point during the economic shit that went down people were buying it up cause it ain't gonna devalue. Bollocks to that panic buying though, I'd also be all about the history of our relationship with it (never even considered it before but now I think about it, back to Egyptian times, it's always been very.. hallowed). I normally think about flint when I think of humans on the brink of starting civilisation as we know it.

Do you wear gold due to your connection, or have any special bits? I could never pull off gold, goes against me somehow, but stone works in harmony and I haven't been without a bit on round my neck or wrists for probably 7-8 years.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: hex_enduction]
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hex_enduction said:
Isn't it like 2:30pm where you're at?


Lol. I think he's probably 15:30, cause I'm 14:30 and almost certain Holland is an hour ahead (I should know, lived there for 5 years).

I gotta sleep and be up for night shift in 7 hours and the clock is ticking. But I've broken my recent resolve and done stims for the first time in months, and the thought of bed is like 'yeah, fuck that'.

Better get the emergency diazepam out I suppose. Will try with vodka first, I don't feel like drinking, but it's the smoothest way out of the stim headspace and body load IMO.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Oh yea, meant to direct that post at you since you were talking about going to bed. Makes sense though if you work night shifts. Did that for about a year myself. Wasn't fun.

Just realized I haven't really contributed to the thread, but while I don't really worship any material things, I definitely have possessions that hold a lot of sentimental value for me. Certain pairs of shoes, my switchblade, my studio monitors, my first car (which is now completely fucked and I gotta get rid of it), a few little things that are gifts from close friends. Wouldn't say I worship any of it. I don't think I've ever really "worshipped" anything in life besides perhaps some music.


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Connoisseur said:
oh ive cried on drugs

sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Asante]
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Its 15:42 now, why?


Even if I had the wealth for bars of gold, I would want krugerrands instead, even though that is more expensive per ounce. I prefer it for many symbolic reasons, one of them being that the Krugerrand unites the fates of Holland and Africa.

Half the world lives on an ounce of gold a year, in the West, an ounce of gold a month is survivable and if you have an ounce of gold a week you are middle class in the West.

I don't wear gold but have been thinking of capping my back tooth (invisible) with a gold crown (it needs a crown and a gold crown is almost the same price as a ceramic one) for the purpose of being physically in contact with gold, always. I'm still deliberating it.
I dont want a visible gold tooth, it doesnt feel right to show off to people, its immodest in a really rude way.

What kinda stone are you wearing?


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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: hex_enduction]
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hex_enduction said:
I don't think I've ever really "worshipped" anything in life besides perhaps some music.


I think the music position is probably the most widely worshipped thing for most, after a romantic partner (which is mind blowing, but world destroying if you lose them!).

I imagine it would start to divide a bit more, dependant on gender after that, but who knows, I just waffling at this point I think. Surprised you mention a car and don't at least tell me make/model. I'd love a pic!! I must be the most vocal petrolhead currently in the community, with Shroomism just behind.

Would also love to see the rest, but vehicles are my thing, above all else.

@ALL - If you ever talk vehicles, please be pornographic about it! Ima start handing out supporter accounts soon I've decided, and vehicle porn would definitely earn one. In fact I'll start right now - hex, if you do me a pic I'll send you and account tonight!


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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My paintbrushes and pens. It's one of my most favorite feelings of dry painting my face. I have never splurged big money on anything for myself except brushes and pens. I use coupons tho but one of my favorite ones was a $35 brush and I got it half off.

And I might have a small amount of worship for things I collect... like my sticker collection. And probably books..


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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Asante] * 3
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Just look at this:





If you say thats not beautiful, you're lying!


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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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It's far from an impressive car, a '99 Chrysler Sebring, it just holds a lot of sentimental value for me. Lot of memories cruising around doin crazy shit with my friends when I was younger. I don't think I have any old pics of it and it's in bad shape these days or I'd put up a pic. I'll try and find one though. I really didn't take care of it like I should've and it makes me sad seeing it how it is today.

Ive always loved cars but I'm not really a fanatic/enthusiast like some. I really hate my current car too, an '07 Saturn ion, but it's decent enough I guess and I got it cheap from a family member so I really shouldn't complain.


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Connoisseur said:
oh ive cried on drugs

sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: hex_enduction] * 1
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Sorry to interrupt, but i'm too tired and kind of drunk at this moment to post. I just wanted to subscribe.
I like trees and computers and may talk about it tomorrow.

:threadmonitor:


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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
What kinda stone are you wearing?


Dunno, it's from a beach in Jersey. My wife brought it back as she went to visit her dad there a few days after we first got together. Our spiritual connection was so strong at the time, I saw her in a church in my minds eye at one point, pulling on the bell ropes - turns out that was exactly what she was doing. I'd love to ask how, but I feel some things are not meant to be known in the human state.

Maybe someone else knows. I bought a diamond drill bit and drilled the holes out so I could wear it, just felt right. It's very hard stone, the white maybe quartz? I tore it off when she first pulled the 'final straw' move that sent her into rehab, along with my wedding ring. And whilst I can't see myself wearing the ring or us being together ever again, this stone is just so 'me' and represents SO much to me, so I don't feel it is linked to her. I made it a part of me, even though I know I and it are impermanent, I hope to journey with it as long as possible. No doubt I'll lose it at some point, mind you.




Yeah, that looks like a boring AF car. Sometimes that's what you need though, mine kinda is (compared to my early ones anyway, it's still powerful). I never spend >£1000 on a car these days, and run them into the ground. I like comfy, auto, and inconspicuous. After riding a bike every day, the last thing you wanna do it apply the same level of concentration and effort in a car. Bet she's comfy, right? Good speakers?



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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Magenta] * 1
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Magenta said:
Sorry to interrupt, but i'm too tired and kind of drunk at this moment to post. I just wanted to subscribe.
I like trees and computers and may talk about it tomorrow.

:threadmonitor:


Mate, that's what the forum is for aint it? Like at a good festival; you know you can just chip into any conversation you hear and know that it's cool.

Well, that's the ideal anyway, only takes one bad egg to kill the vibe, but please, interrupt the fuck out of any thread I start. That's why I do it! More people that get involved the happier I am.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Comfy enough, decent speakers. I wanna drop some cash on a higher end sound system, get a couple 10" subs in there or something. But yeah, definitely a boring af car. I'm tempted to sell it and get something else that suits me better. I'm thinking I might just keep it and save up for a decent motorcycle. I wouldn't mind having a lame ass car if I had a sick bike :lol:


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Connoisseur said:
oh ive cried on drugs

sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: hex_enduction]
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Exactly. See the pic I posted above, with the white car and the sick bike in the background. I'd been riding about a year when I had that reaisation, and became an 'all weather' rider (only snow stops me). My next cars were shitheaps, although mechanically sound after I sold that white one. I think one cost me £280, and the boot was full of water, windows wouldn't go up etc when I got. A Honda Accord (always go Honda) fixed her up myself and drove her into the ground. And I got £120 for scrap when done. Sweet AF, I miss that car, it wasn't the gas guzzler that mine is. Only reason I can afford to keep is cause I only drive it once a week.



Cars are great workhorses IMO, and I would always need to have access to one from time to time, but since laying out the money on a goretex suit and all I ride everywere now, no matter what temperature. It's so much beteter. I really didn'y ever see myself feeling that way in all the years I dreamed of having a bike, but it really gets under your skin after a while. I know... 0 bikers that currently ride that are not passionate about it, regardless of how little some actually ride.

Can you do oil changes and shit? Would you be willing to learn? It saves so much money and hassle, and I'm amazed at how much I now know compared to when I felt nervous doing my first oil change 10 years back...

Ah subs. I've been seriously contemplation getting an amp and subs in mine. Had them in all my good cars. It's finding the time to run the cable up the car that stops me - I never have a full day any more. But even though I;ll prob be selling her in 6-9 months, I would if I had time.

LOUD music when driving is almost as good as sex. People must think I'm bonkers when I'm raving to D&B in my car, whole body moving, one hand in the air out the window, in the classic rave/hand pose as a tune drops...


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Shroomism said:
And I'm still CONSTANTLY thinking of more ways to further mod it. Have already spent waay more than I should have.


That's a bitch man. I worked up about £28k in my 20's cause of that attitude:



Built from standard, but every area modified to fuck. I still have to resist, but having more of a respect for money after getting into, and out of, that much debt makes it easier. I.e - a manifold for the Duc would be £7-800. That wouldn't have stopped me once, but now it does. £700 ($930) is a lot. I still want Ohlins and Brembo though, I guess that'll never change. As a petrolhead, sure you know how it gets in the blood, in your very soul.

But to resist is so good for us. Still gotta admire your new car though. Don't think I coould ever have bought pre-modified. Probably now though if I was still into cars as I don't have time to do the work myself anymore.

What's the power figures & 0-60 on that?

Love the corner balanced stance, it's funny to think how most people have no idea how important those coilovers are perfectly set to balance the vehicle. I paid a pro to set mine, camber, castor, toe, etc:



Normally, I would almost never buy a pre-modified car. But.... this guy is a good friend (in my car group). He works for a big name performance car parts place.. he knows his shit.
All the shit was professionally installed by the same shop I trust all my stuff too. All the mods are the top dollar ones and are all done right.
It's basically exactly how I would have modded the car myself.... only it would have taken me like 3-4 years to do.

Right now the engine is being rebuilt with better pistons, rods, new rings seals and gaskets and bigger turbo and custom tune. That was part of the deal.
Before it was pushing around 400HP, with all the new internals and big turbo... it will probably be somewhere in the ballpark of 470. 0-60 in under 4 for sure.
And yeah it's corner balanced


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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Zombi3]
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Zombi3 said:
Over the recent long weekend I ate some acid with a really close friend and spent all dam day in the forest and we met some cool people at a swimming hole, it was really nice to see how many people (dozens) had showed up to enjoy the river and the forest. Granted there was litter everywhere cuz we are too entitled to clean up after ourselves but for a moment I had felt so excited at how much everyone was obviously enjoying that moment in time, in nature. Me and my tripping buddy sat there people watching and talking about some deep shit, we nearly slept under the stars we wanted to be in that forest so long, that river has been flowing long before I was born and will continue long after memory of me has all disappeared. The area is rich with game and is so gorgeous it looks like a fairytale and you just know people have been swimming there as long as people have lived in this area. For a solid 3 hours I didn't see a single person with their face in their cell phone. Everyone looked so happy.


Think of all the pokemon they could have caught out there!!! Seems like a waste of a trip to a swimming hole if you have no pokemon to show for it.

sarcasm:rofl:


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I'm addicted to coke, weed, booze, ludes and speed.
Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Shroomism]
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Fucking sweet man. I was gonna part-ex the EK9 for a 550hp R32 Skyline at one point. When a turbo like that finally spools, it's like being shot out of a cannon. The purist driver in me says always NA, but the thrillseeker says fuck that, huge turbos are fucking majorly grin inducing. Superchargers lay in the middle, and whilst they're great (went out in a charged EK9) they're just.. a bit gay, somehow.

Plus, a 500hp NA engine is the realm of supercars, which I'll never afford. But I have supercar performance for reasonable money, which is mostly the motivation of bikes for me. I kinda shot myself in the foot with the Fireblade though - with the cam & headwork it's just too fast for the road. With all the dangers you gotta watch out for - been knocked off twice - both t-bones on my right, I rarely get it out of 2nd. On an open stretch though, with the quickshifter & GP gearing setup (basically full throttle gearchnages, by just tapping your foot down on the shift lever), it's fukcing insane. Like a slice of heaven. You got a couple of roads you feel safe to open up?

I have one stretch, which is my top speed stretch if conditions are perfect (as they sometimes are). Had a police car chase me down it at 150 once, but I had no idea cause my head was flat on the tank. I should have lost my license for that - thank fuck the cop rode a Fireblade too, and I've had years of practice speaking to them..

Ah car groups. I loved my EK9 group, all met through the EK9 forum. I made a bunch of friends at various meets, and it eventuated in about a dozen of us going to the Nurburgring (where that pic is from). Probably one of the top three 'long weekeds' of my life. Amazing how well you can bond with people if you are passionate about a common interest - even people you would not normally get on with..

How often do you meet your group? Do you go to big meets/RR days/track days etc together?

I've been trying to find time for a track day on the bike a couple of years now, but I don't have a group to spur me on - the only riders I know are 44 & 52, and very hard to hook up with. Get about 1-2 rides for pleasure alone a year.

If you're doing more than that, then you're doing alright man.. I think you got a little nipper (kid) though right?


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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I worship everything I got cause I know I have more than most in my country and a hell of a lot more than most on earth.

My life will be very easy and comfortable so I don't complain.


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Re: Do you ever find yourself worshipping material objects? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
I worship everything I got cause I know I have more than most in my country and a hell of a lot more than most on earth.

My life will be very easy and comfortable so I don't complain.


I think that's the most balanced opinion I've ever seen on the matter. If you truly live that ideal, and have few wants, then I congratulate you for being and enlightened human.

Mind you, if you earn quite a bit, and have never truly had to scrape for money (as I, I've made making sure I have plenty of money since 15, and my parents were never poor growing up) I think it's easier to think like this.

I sometimes question if coming from the 'middle class' in the best start point one can have in this life. I've met people from upper and lower, and they seem like they'd be a lot harder to break the cycle with...


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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