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objections to Lost in Translation
    #4120023 - 05/01/05 08:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

first off, ok, a girl as pretty as the actress who played the main girl, and a girl who is also smart like that girl, would never have married an effeminate guy like her husband in the movie in the first place.... pretty girls marry masculine men 95% of the time, ok..
unless it was just for his money...but she is portrayed as being a decent person in the film, so that conflicts with that theory...
that whole thing doesn't work for me.

i was going to list out a bunch of objections to this movie but really that's the only one i can think of. overall i thought it was a fairly believable relationship film.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4120043 - 05/01/05 08:24 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I thought that movie sucked.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: Adamist]
    #4120049 - 05/01/05 08:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

let me guess you think Fight Club was awesome?


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4120056 - 05/01/05 08:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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pretty girls marry masculine men 95% of the time





I now disregard anything you say as ill informed bullshit from here on. This is simply not true, and ignorant.


anyway, this movie is really deep and alot of people miss some major points in it. Personally, I have never talked to anyone who has enjoyed it. I thought it was brilliant. The best parts of the movie are the most low key, like when the two of them are sitting at the bar and not saying a word, they are just tired, it really says alot, and it's incredible because it says so much without a word. It's a powerfull film.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: emptywisdom]
    #4120094 - 05/01/05 08:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

are you male or female?


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4120104 - 05/01/05 08:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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question_for_joo said:
let me guess you think Fight Club was awesome?




Yeah, it was.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4120194 - 05/01/05 08:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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haven't seen it...don't wanna see it.
sounds like a chic flick to me!~


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4120223 - 05/01/05 08:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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let me guess you think Fight Club was awesome?



Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. Not as good as say, A Clockwork Orange, or American Beauty.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: Roadkill]
    #4120225 - 05/01/05 08:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

it is a chick flick, but it's a smart chick flick and Bill Murray's got some funny moments


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: Adamist]
    #4120231 - 05/01/05 08:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

A Clockwork Orange a true classic!~

The Warriors was pretty good too.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: Adamist]
    #4120240 - 05/01/05 08:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Why do you like A Clockwork Orange?


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4120265 - 05/01/05 08:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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question_for_joo said:
are you male or female?




What does this matter?


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: emptywisdom]
    #4120309 - 05/01/05 08:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

lost in trans was aight..

i like bill murray's quote: "the more you know who you are and what you want, the less you let things upset you"


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: emptywisdom]
    #4120313 - 05/01/05 08:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Well i looked at your profile and stuff about buying ani difranco cds and so I guess you're female.
Is it offensive to say that pretty girls usually marry masculine men?
Am I stereotyping?
Am I being a sexist pig?
Tell me whatever you want to tell me or don't tell me anything if you prefer hon, it's the internet you can say what you want. I'm just being honest, in my experience, in my life, and in the lives of other people I have seen...


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4120333 - 05/01/05 08:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Why do you like A Clockwork Orange?



I like the language that's used, the costumes, the environments, and how most of the scenes are really long, without any cutting done, which shows that it took great acting... getting it all down in one long take. I also like how many of the scenes are shocking, especially for it's time.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: Adamist]
    #4120360 - 05/01/05 09:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I like those things you list until the end, it is a visually impressive film as are all Kubrick's films... but I really hate the shockingness factor. I think it is shocking in a negative way, in a way that poisons your heart, and violates your soul, with very little redeeming content to make up for the damage it does. I notice you don't mention any aspect of the film's content, just it's presentation. Kids these days are just looking for something that dazzles, I don't know I think it's a shame and I repent the days of my youth when I would have said yes I like A Clockwork Orange.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: Adamist]
    #4120378 - 05/01/05 09:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Lost in Translation isnt a chick flick. Chick flicks are Gilmore Girls type rapid fire dialogue where there is atleast one romantic make out session in the rain after some dramatic fight over dumb shit girls get dramatic about.
Lost in Translation was primarily about an erosion of culture. This movie has more in common with The Last Samurai than it does with any chick flick. So far everything that Focus Films has come out with is absolutly brilliant. For those that didnt like it, try going back and watching it with erosion of culture in mind, i promise it will make much more sense to you.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4120405 - 05/01/05 09:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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question_for_joo said:
Well i looked at your profile and stuff about buying ani difranco cds and so I guess you're female.
Is it offensive to say that pretty girls usually marry masculine men?
Am I stereotyping?
Am I being a sexist pig?
Tell me whatever you want to tell me or don't tell me anything if you prefer hon, it's the internet you can say what you want.  I'm just being honest, in my experience, in my life, and in the lives of other people I have seen...




My profile has nothing to imply sex one way or the other, so you're gonna assume I'm female because the last cd I bought was Ani Difranco and I liked lost in translation? I find this interesting.

It's not offensive to say pretty girls mary masculine men 95 percent of the time, just ignorant, thats all.  :wink:

I would'nt say you were stereotyping or being sexist, you are just ill informed. That or have some serious misunderstandings concerning relationships.  :smirk:



btw, A clockwork orange was the shit, but it does not hold a candle to the glory of the book. Of course I suppose this statement is a bit cliche'.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: question_for_joo]
    #4120415 - 05/01/05 09:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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I notice you don't mention any aspect of the film's content, just it's presentation. Kids these days are just looking for something that dazzles



If I were just looking for something that "dazzles", I'd be watching mindless action flicks.


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Re: objections to Lost in Translation [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4120419 - 05/01/05 09:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

erosion of culture eh? i never saw the last samurai.
I don't think the american/japan contrast is as important as the contrast between the lives of Bill Murray/scarlett johanson. i can see a basic theme of cultural contrast but I don't understand what you mean by cultural erosion.

maybe you're right it's not a chick flick, i mean they don't end up together, there is no neat wrap up and that is very non chickflickish.

it does make me want to go see Japan though, and play in the Japanese arcades.


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