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The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk * 15
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As many of you know, a Muslim terrorist busted into a Gay Bar in Orlando with an AR15 and a sidearm and shot OVER 100 people. Semi automatic. Every single shot was fired deliberately, that is why the kill/hit rate is so extraordinarily high, a miracle in the worst possible way. That guy was the fucking Terminator in Tech Noir and he executed more people in one shooting than any one shooter in the history of the USA.

For Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, Transgenders, Intersex and the like, June 12 was OUR September 11.

I'm involved too. I'm part of a gay group elsewhere online with about 1000 members, they are the most wonderful people imaginable. They are OUTCASTS IN THE WORLD and that group is their Haven, their safe space. One of them, one I KNOW, was among the 50+ shot but not killed. A friend of mine (if you can call online friends friends, I think yes) was shot in a gay bar by a muslim terrorist in this event.

A Gay Bar is supposed to be a safe place for the outcasts of society and some SWINE busted in there and tried to execute every last one of them, no less than in the name of Allah, one of the faces of God Almighty, who is supposed to be all about LOVE, just like any Gods of any religion except Satanism.

:islam: :cross: :judaism: :rastafari: :buddhism: :om: :wicca: :vodou:

Sophistic Radiance said:
qman said:
Sophistic Radiance said:
The right wingers have been working their ass off to co opt the activist power of the LGBT movement, this is their latest ploy to delude us into thinking we should be afraid of Muslims instead of them.



You should be afraid of them, go to the Middle East and tell us how it goes. You'll be running back to the US in a matter of minutes. :lol:



Talk all the shit you like, I am going to make this resoundingly clear for everybody here to know:

I, as a gay woman who is trans and living in America, continue to feel more threatened by the American Christian right wing than I am by radical Islam.




Listen the fuck up guys.

Sophistic Radiance is GLBT, she is a trans woman. Shes one of the united minority who was attacked in this attack.

Sophistic Radiance often brings up Trans issues. Sometimes, yes I think its too much, too damn much. But she struggles hard trying to find her place in the world, trying to find her identity.

I as a gay man had to do that too. Still have to. So does Koods and so does our gorgeous (I seen her, shes hot) Rose.

Not gonna out anybody who dont want outing so keeping it at us four.

The GLBT minority of the Shroomery. Visible representatives that is, of a whole army of gender & orientation outcast.

It could have been us in that Gay Bar, it could have been one of our friends. It in fact WAS one of my friends. Not critically hit, thank God.

So you know someone who knows someone who was gored by a bullet in that club. We have a poker in that fire.

Now something else.

Listen UP guys, this time.

The Pub is just like The Pulse. The Pulse is a GLBT(I) bar, a bar where outcasts go and the Shroomery Pub is the same.

Most of us are persecuted minorities in some way or other. we are druggies, dodging friends and family laying guilt trips on us, struggling for acceptance in our own family and society in the pursuit of our happiness, just like the faggots, dykes and all inbetween at The Pulse. We are the hippie, the guy with an unpopular opinion, the straight edger :straightedge: who tries to fit in with our crowd just cause we're awesome folk (no shit guys, we have at least one of those) despite we stand for all he is opposed against. We are the racial minorities being oppressed, including white people in not-so advantageous positions and with not so entitled attitudes. We are the poor, we are the rich, the 99% and the 1% (Zappa are you OK man?)

We are the trolls too. There is troll flesh on our bones, all of us, some more than others.

This is an adult drug site that was created by a rebellious teenager. This is the SHROOMERY. We keep each other safe, like Sheekle who saved Losfreddy's life from a lethal drug OD. We dispense harm reduction, some of us with a needle in our arm.

Harm Reduction. Community. Safe Space.

The Shroomery and The Pub, we are a safe space for many. We try to be a great place for everybody, we try to coexist.

The Pub is The Pulse for many of us, the best place in the world to be, late at night, if we need acceptance from our peers, a kind word, a reality check, a laugh.

People, we have a problem here in The Pub and I want all of us to do our part in this.

The pub's getting to unkind. Its starting to not be a safe place anymore for many of our most wonderful members. I say you as an admin: Its starting to do bad things to our traffic and demographic. Its becoming a PROBLEM.

Tone yourself and each other down a notch guys if they are being intolerant or hateful. Let us all unite in making the Pub great again. Not the trump way, sure as fuck not with a shit for brains vigilante assault, not with our staff turning Nazi, in a kind way, in the Shroomery way.

A little more understandig and compassion. Giving each other the oipportunity to be different without shaming or insulting them. Letting your HEART do the talking and using your BRAIN to do it in the wisest way.

Its like the whole world is getting ready for total war. Have you caught that vibe? Everything is getting more extreme, more intolerant, the media whip up ever bigger shitstorms, the people are getting poorer, have their freedoms taken away, or like in Arab nations get the shit bombed out of them or like the gays get shot up in their own gay bar by a religious nut who doesnt have a CLUE that REAL JIHAD STARTS IN THE HEART, WITH COMPASSION AND LOVE AND FROM THAT WAY OUTWARD.

We have Muslims too and yes, they WILL be defended.

The problem is not bad people, its bad attitudes, bad logic, bad manners, bad vibes. We, the Shroomery staff, do not want to permaban people, e vwant to permaban certain attitudes. Hate ands intolerance, bad vibes that dont belong in a mushroom trip should be kept in check as much as possible.

PLUR it up guys.

Lets try to make 2016, that year when so much takes a turn for the worse, be the year the Pub and the Shroomery, as OUR SAFE SPACE, takes a turn for the better.

YOU take initiative: moderate your behavior and that of your friends here in a friendly, Shroomery way. Let your hearts speak.

Out of respect for the people of The Pulse, the queers, the dykes, trannies and all their friends, a very special song about that wonderful thing that unites all of us; Love. That strange, mysterious, outrageous and sacred gift that made our parents make us and which we will spread in all directions of our lives.

I want to ask you to listen to the song, or not, but in any case to ponder what we must do to turn the tide.



This is a memorial thread so, no, not everything goes.



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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Asante] * 2
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Thank you Asante :heart::hug:


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Cosmic_Flame] * 5
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Radical Islam laughs at the their enemies who defend them, even when
it's blatantly obvious they're raping shit up everwhere.

Hide your wife, hide your kids, radical Islam wants to rape em. Just don't hide
em at Asante's place.

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Asante] * 3
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here! here!

we can disagree without resorting to vitriol and hate--we can have civil discussion and may even realize that we have much more in common than previously thought--if we can't manage this in spaces like the pub, what hope is there for the world at large?

as one who has spent years as a wandering traveller, often benefiting from the kindness of strangers from all sorts of backgrounds and life experiences, i fully believe that the vast majority of humans are good people--despite seeing the worst that humanity has to offer, i haven't lost hope


:leaving:


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 13
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It's pretty fucked that you chose to sticky this, and ignore every other atrocity simply because you yourself are gay.


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3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother.
Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 6
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"The pub's getting too unkind."

That's been an issue here for years and it sucks.  Every thread has multiple people just trying to post a one liner to make a funny, shit started sucking years ago and we see "The old days of shroomery" posts more frequently.

People just need to be friendlier here.

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Hobozen] * 1
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blankk said:
Radical Islam laughs at the their enemies who defend them, even when
it's blatantly obvious they're raping shit up everwhere.

Hide your wife, hide your kids, radical Islam wants to rape em. Just don't hide
em at Asante's place.




Blankk, we have some Muslim members and they are in no way the Radical Islam you refer to. I defend the good people of any affiliation, in away that tries to balance out the negative sentiments that exist. Good people are my people and trust me, your fight against this senseless violence is my fight.

Let me hereby play you a hommage to everyone fighting tyrrany over peoples minds, everywhere, including Charlie hebdo's cartoonists and that poor Muslim sap ho had to go to work this monday morning with yet another completely HARAM atrocity committed in his name, which will be held against him, forever. That sucks too you know?

I post lots of videos but this one I think you can get behind 100%



My battle against radical Islam's War On Love just got personal. They have the blood of my friend on their hands, who is in the hospital now, assaulted and traumatized for being gay.

There will be a difference in the way I go about discussing the exceses of Radical Islam, you can count on that. But what I won't do is throw out the baby with the bathwater. Theres good people among them harmed by their tyranny too. I know several.


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Psychonautica] * 4
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dude, take the lgbt out of it.. it is still one of the largest mass shootings on american soil.

so what if they have a soft spot because it hit their community.


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: rackem] * 1
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What did psychonautica post?  I had to ignore him for stalking me, first user I put on ignore in over 6 years.

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: rackem] * 4
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Yes, but would it get the sticky and the same thread if it wasn't gay people?

Probably not.


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The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one
3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother.
Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Psychonautica] * 7
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im not going to get into a bickering war about fairness

let them have their moment man...


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: rackem] * 7
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It's just upsetting to pretend you're some kind of empathetic being of pure love, when you ignore every atrocity unless it affects you on somewhat of a personal level. :shrug:

They shouldn't even be labeled as an atrocity against gays, I wish that part was kept out of it.

It's an atrocity against people, as a whole, yet yall only care because they were gay.

It shouldn't be viewed as a hit to the LGBT community, it should be looked at as a hit against humanity as a whole, but it's not. That's dumb.


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The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one
3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother.
Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: PreparationH] * 6
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Myself and Sophistic debate on a regular basis about many different subjects, the reason why we debate is because she's intelligent on many issues and I respect her opinions.

I believe that respect is mutual and disagreements are a natural part of life, at the end of the day, I like her. :thumbup: 

I wouldn't want the Shroomery to not have members like her and Rose, it's one of the reasons why this place is special, I would never want that to change.

Edited by qman (06/13/16 06:46 PM)

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Psychonautica] * 10
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Psychonautica said:
It's pretty fucked that you chose to sticky this, and ignore every other atrocity simply because you yourself are gay.



Whats pretty fucked up Psychonautica is some of the personal insults you have been hurling directly at me lately and that you now use this memorial thread to do so again.

This is a mild version of the problem we're talking about.

Have some respect man. I get scammed out of thousands of bucks and you insult me with homosexual innuendo, I have a friend in the hospital gored by terrorist bullets and you use this as an opportunity to further attack me and again its about gayness.

More people have this problem with you.

I'm sensitive about this matter OK? Its very personal to me so yes I am subjective, and I am very subjective about you attacking me gratuitously in every thread you encounter me in and in RR 2.0 behind my back.

Its OK that I'm subjective and my benevolence is not an act, you couldnt fake my personality if you tried. I am ME and I've been a staffer here since 2003.

Have. Some. Respect.

And if you really have an issue with me, PM me.


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personal empowerment for the world

:nyan: LGBT - Love God Before Tradition :nyan:

Edited by Asante (06/13/16 07:13 PM)

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Psychonautica] * 7
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Psychonautica said:
It's just upsetting to pretend you're some kind of empathetic being of pure love, when you ignore every atrocity unless it affects you on somewhat of a personal level. :shrug:

They shouldn't even be labeled as an atrocity against gays, I wish that part was kept out of it.

It's an atrocity against people, as a whole, yet yall only care because they were gay.

It shouldn't be viewed as a hit to the LGBT community, it should be looked at as a hit against humanity as a whole, but it's not. That's dumb.



The shooters father said he was outraged by seeing 2 men kissing in front of his young son, and that may have been part of it. It IS a hit to the gay community as well as america. It's "dumb" to think or say it wasn't about "gay" people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/orlando-shooting-religion_us_575d76d5e4b0e39a28add69f

"The father of suspected Orlando gunman Omar Mateen says his son was not driven by religious ideology, but did grow upset after seeing two gay men kissing in Miami a few months ago."

I grew up in Texas and lived in Fort Worth when I came out. I was so insecure and scared about getting beat up or jumped in the "straight" areas of downtown for holding hands or kissing my mate. The first time I got the nerve to actually kiss him in the downtown area "in public" a fucking car drove by and someone yelled "FAGS!" FUCK! The fear is real. The actions of some people to gay people or anyone else they see as a threat or disgusting is real! Stop trying to downplay the obvious truth.


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
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Tyrannicalrex you once posted a dick in your signature and dozens of people put your on ignore, silenced your entire voice, often rated you with homophobic comments, over the simple act of posting a male genital in your signature.

That was absolutely sickening. Thats NOT the Shroomery Ythan envisioned.




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personal empowerment for the world

:nyan: LGBT - Love God Before Tradition :nyan:

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Psychonautica said:
It's pretty fucked that you chose to sticky this, and ignore every other atrocity simply because you yourself are gay.



Whats pretty fucked up Psychonautica is some of the personal insults you have been hurling directly at me lately and that you now use this memorial thread to do so again.

This is a mild version of the problem we're talking about.

Have some respect man. I get scammed out of thousands of bucks and you insult me with homosexual innuendo, I have a friend in the hospital gored by terrorist bullets and you use this as an opportunity to further attack me and again its about gayness.

More people have this problem with you.

I'm sensitive about this matter OK? Its very personal to me so yes I am subjective, and I am very subjective about you attacking me gratuitously in every thread you encounter me in and in RR 2.0 behind my back.

Its OK that I'm subjective and my benevolence is not an act, you couldnt fake my personality if you tried. I am ME and I've been a staffer here since 2003.

Have. Some. Respect.

And if you really have an issue with me, PM me.



Um . . . You don't encounter many insults, do you?

Because that's not one.


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Asante]
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I actually remember that damn that was years back.

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Psychonautica] * 4
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Psychonautica said:
It's just upsetting to pretend you're some kind of empathetic being of pure love, when you ignore every atrocity unless it affects you on somewhat of a personal level. :shrug:

They shouldn't even be labeled as an atrocity against gays, I wish that part was kept out of it.

It's an atrocity against people, as a whole, yet yall only care because they were gay.

It shouldn't be viewed as a hit to the LGBT community, it should be looked at as a hit against humanity as a whole, but it's not. That's dumb.



Except all the major Abrahamic faith texts clearly demand killing gay people, and these terrorists hold extremist beliefs where they literally want to live in the times of the prophet, where it was okay to stone a gay man.  In some countries it still is!  It's pride weekend here in Oregon and you can bet your ass I won't be intimidated and will be showing up for the parade and will be having drinks at a local gay bar.  I won't be intimidated by the haters afk, and I most certainly won't be intimidated by haters on an online internet forum.

I proudly stand up in support of Asante, the pub needs to change, we need to be more kind to each other in this forum more so than ever.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Asante] * 1
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Asante said:
Tyrannicalrex you once posted a dick in your signature and dozens of people put your on ignore, silenced your entire voice, often rated you with homophobic comments, over the simple act of posting a male genital in your signature.

That was absolutely sickening. Thats NOT the Shroomery Ythan envisioned.



YEP! Interesting experiment I tried in here after seeing so many cunt, tit, and spinning cat asshole pics etc...COCKS! it is a good one! I have 25 people ignoring me from that to this day. Regged in 03  and had not one ignore until that thread, and coaster started it (the ignores, because people followed him, LOL!). I think I came out earlier than a lot of people in here too just to see how many people were gay in here.


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Edited by tyrannicalrex (06/13/16 07:27 PM)

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