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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Authentically depressed or delusionally happy?
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Which is better?  And does it even really matter?


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L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Are those the only two options?

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Which is better?


Better for what?

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And does it even really matter?


Matter to whom?

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Whether something matters or not is always subject to ones own judgement, meaning that you can basically decide whether it matters or not, because there is no such thing as "objective matter-ment" is basically what I try to communicate, as much as there is no "objective purpose of life".

The answer is whatever you choose the answer to be.


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"Ten thousand things, all in this breath…”
why are people in this world so busy?
just for this one breath
they say, “busy, busy, mine, mine….”
busy a whole lifetime for “Me”
when this breath is cut off..
you let go of the whole universe
why not let go from the start?"

`One mans trash is another mans LSD.´

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Domdelic]
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"The answer is whatever you choose the answer to be."

indeed

the question sounds like a theme for a movie plot

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: laughingdog]
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This is idiotic.

Delusionally happy is definitely better.

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Kangaskhan]
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If it's a kind of beauty-among-the-delusions kind of delusionally happy, kind of like the Mad Hatter's tea party or Alice in Wonderland that's where it's at. :mushroom2:


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My solitude...
My shield...
My armour...

TESTED
WITH
FULL
FORCE

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
Which is better?  And does it even really matter?


i'll take someone authentic any day and that's better for me
but it doesn't matter overall IMO


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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which is better to be depressed about being delusionally happy?
or happy that you are delusionally depressed?

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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I dunno, I'm happy about the whether being a little more palatable and being able to spend more time outside and with friends, yet I'm depressed about the ridiculous amount of cruelty and injustice in the world... Why do I have to be a. or not a., or the reverse of a, why can't I be both simultaneously?  I feel like I must live in an altered state of consciousness where Aristotelian logic doesn't rule my mind.  Anyways, I definitely don't want to "have a nice day", I want to have a weird day where I experience something like deja vu and wonder what the fuck it means :lol:.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: CosmicJoke]
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You must suck at multiple choice problems :ass:


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Kickle] * 1
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Kickle said:
You must suck at multiple choice problems :ass:


:lol:  Depends, I'm freakishly good at standardized tests in say scholastics, especially with the process of elimination, etc.  But I'm far more indecisive at things like the MBTI......  I feel so many of those answers are sometimes, but not always.  When it comes to matters of personal preference, being boxed into multiple choices might just be :ass: inine.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: CosmicJoke]
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The title would imply that there is some kind of objective critea for being happy or depressed about a given situation.

I think you should try to maximize your enjoyment and minimize suffering and if that means not questioning your happiness I'm all for that. Let all things without remedy be without concern (badly quoted)


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Kinesin, a motor protein, shuttling a vesicle full of cargo
such as glucose or even neurotransmitters across a cell.
This little guy struts along the microtubule using ATP as fuel.

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Depression is hell for you

Mania is hell for those you love

Comes down to who you want to hurt


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Life begins on the other side of despair...

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Grateful Dead]
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fake it till ya make it


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zen by age ten times six hundred lifetimes
Light up the darkness.

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: CosmicJoke]
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Because so far in my life i've chosen authentically depressed, no matter how hard I try to convince myself of authentic happiness I feel at the end of the day it's a delusion.  No amount of prozac and wellbutrin can help shake my comfort of being depressed.


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L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Tell me something that makes you cry...... anything?  I'm just wondering if you feel raw emotion in your depression or if you don't feel anything except self loathing or what?  Does anything make you feel good ever?  Hardcore drugs? MDMA? I mean does anything make you feel like you can look yourself in the mirror and feel good and self accepting and gentle and radiating a loving essence?


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: CosmicJoke]
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I don't really feel much of anything at all.  Just complete and total apathy.  I'm a drug addict so yeah drugs make me feel good.  I'm currently not using right now though.  Just feeling the full on dread of one annoying chore after another that is sobriety and the only thing I look forward too is going to sleep.  Exercise makes me feel good though.


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L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: CosmicJoke]
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CosmicJoke said:
Kickle said:
You must suck at multiple choice problems :ass:


:lol:  Depends, I'm freakishly good at standardized tests in say scholastics, especially with the process of elimination, etc.  But I'm far more indecisive at things like the MBTI......  I feel so many of those answers are sometimes, but not always.  When it comes to matters of personal preference, being boxed into multiple choices might just be :ass: inine.


I do something like the MBTI the same way as you do standardized tests -- process of elimination, or selecting the best answer even though it may not be the only answer that seems to apply. :thumbup:


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: laughingdog]
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laughingdog said:
which is better to be depressed about being delusionally happy?
or happy that you are delusionally depressed?


“A tangle inside, a tangle outside,
This generation is entangled in a tangle.
I ask you this, O Gotama,
Who can disentangle this tangle?”

(The Saṃyutta Nikāya)

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Re: Authentically depressed or delusionally happy? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
I don't really feel much of anything at all.  Just complete and total apathy.  I'm a drug addict so yeah drugs make me feel good.  I'm currently not using right now though.  Just feeling the full on dread of one annoying chore after another that is sobriety and the only thing I look forward too is going to sleep.  Exercise makes me feel good though.


So sorry to hear that man, my heart goes out to you... I dunno, I keep so many things precious to me very close to my heart, the people I've met and places I've been and memories, books, graphic novels, theatre, poetry readings, films.  Everything I love, I take none of it for granted, I keep it near to me and draw on it for strength..  Sure the world may be fucking mad, but do you remember the last time personally everything seemed perfect to you?  Can you remember what it felt like?


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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