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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Asante]
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it's a real shame we haven't yet developed technology that can destroy missles and rockets in mid air... Oh wait.



russia couldn't* hold up against us with their aging tech.

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Edited by 404 (07/08/15 11:30 AM)

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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: 404]
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russia could hold up against us with their aging tech.


Boxcutters and airliners did 9/11. I think Russian megaton bombs flying in at Mach 30 stand a good chance of doing nightmarish damage.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Asante] * 1
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Wow, you Americans grossly underestimate Russia.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Patlal]
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This kind of posturing goes on all the time. Hell, they were just off the east Coast last month. Nuclear subs are always in each others waters playing cat and mouse. Putin is pissed and having a hissy fit because we are helping out the Ukraine people. This is his way of showing concern.
We do this all the time also....really no big deal.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Wow, you Americans grossly underestimate Russia.



Its a good thing their government doesn't.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Patlal]
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Asante said:
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russia could hold up against us with their aging tech.


Boxcutters and airliners did 9/11. I think Russian megaton bombs flying in at Mach 30 stand a good chance of doing nightmarish damage.


No, thermite did. Don't start that up.

You assume russia has the ability to get past our defence network, assuming they would pull such a stunt anyway (they wont)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_defense

Technology exists to handle ICBM's. Furthermore, we've handled things pretty well with evonomic sanctions which have really fucked with their ruble. I don't see major war breaking out with them anytime soon, even though we are kind of fighting a proxy war them in the ukraine.

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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: koods] * 3
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koods said:
If their bombs still work. Nuclear weapons have shelf life of maybe a decade or two.



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The National Nuclear Security Administration said yesterday that studies have concluded that the plutonium used to trigger U.S. nuclear warheads and bombs will remain reliable for about 100 years, far longer than had been believed.



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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: 404]
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You assume russia has the ability to get past our defence network


Really?

I don't know what to say man if you really think that. Within MINUTES after Putin pushes the button russian submarine nukes destroy and EMP the crap out of your nation and within half an hour the ICBM's come swooping down all at once at Mach 30.

If Obama is having a shit when Putin pushes the button the first nuke will go off over US soil before he has zipped up.

Its been like this for decades.

You guys would be lucky as shit to intercept half the ICBMs and just one MIRV can wipe out 8 large cities.

Expect the worst of your defence network and cheer any warhead it intercepts if Putin does press the red button.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Asante]
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I always thought it was kind of funny when Putin threw a fit a few years back when we wanted to put missile defense batteries in the Balkans somewhere. These are purely defensive and he knows they are effective against his short range and ICBM's.

It wasn't like we were trying to put missiles there....just defense against his...and he freaked the fuck out.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Thayendanegea]
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"He got aggressive" was a better description than "he freaked out". I doubt if he's ever been scared at all.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Asante]
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IME Asante, Scary people are usually full of fear themselves. Of course, Mr. Putin could be just plain psychopathic...which would defy that particular logic. I think he just has "short guy syndrome":wink:


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Thayendanegea]
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He has long arms


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Asante]
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Isn't he former KGB?  Im sure Putin has all sorts of secrets.

I think we are mightier then Russia but they are not to be underestimated.

Are they the "JV" team? :facepalm: :lol:


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Asante]
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your fear mongering won't work with me asante :likeaboss:

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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Asante]
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That's for sure....He is a scary dude with scary power. But I don't think he is stupid.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Thayendanegea]
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Thayendanegea said:
I always thought it was kind of funny when Putin threw a fit a few years back when we wanted to put missile defense batteries in the Balkans somewhere. These are purely defensive and he knows they are effective against his short range and ICBM's.

It wasn't like we were trying to put missiles there....just defense against his...and he freaked the fuck out.



Imagine Russia doing the same thing along the borders of mexico and Canada.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Shins]
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pretty damn obvious what his issue is imho. the kid never got laid.


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Shins]
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Imagine Russia doing the same thing along the borders of mexico and Canada.


....or in Cuba? I think the reasoning behind us putting them there was more to protect Europe from the rogues like N. Korea ..and the crazies that may have got their hands on some of their huge arsenal after the break up of the Soviet Union.....Not as a direct slap in Putins face. Besides....it won't happen in our lifetimes because the US doesn't have neighbors that abhor us like Russia does. Pretty soon, we'll all be taking our vacations in Havana. lol


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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: makaveli8x8]
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You guys act like the US doesn't have nukes. We have way better nukes than the Russians. We shouldn't be concerned about Russian nukes, Russia should be concerned about our nukes. Shit, we even have convention weapons with the yield of nukes. Nukes are seriously not a big deal at all. A TON of country have nukes, who cares? Our conventional bombs often have the yield of nukes.

And no, we are not underestimating the Russians, you're overestimating them. You still think of Russia as this big bad cold war foe, but they're now a very poor, very under equipped nation using technology from the 60s, with shit training. I know people who've been to Russia. The vast majority of that country is poverty level. It's infrastructure is shit. It doesn't even have proper roads. You can't even drive from one side of Russia to the other. And don't tell me it's because it's so big. China didn't have that problem. There are roads in America that run between northern Alaska and Guatemala and beyond.

Russia still uses equipment from the soviet era, and their military spending is absolutely pathetic compared to ours. It would be like England trying to seem like they still have all the power and influence that they did during the height of the british empire and colonialism. It's just bullshit. Russia has a tiny economy, an undertrained military, miniscule military spending, and shit training for its troops.

The only way that they manage to influence anything is by pretending that they're still the big bad soviet union. But hell, even the big bad soviet union was mostly propaganda.

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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: nooneman]
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Here is a spectacular video of an ICBM deployment:




The latest Russian submarine class will be equipped with RSM-56 Bulava rockets that work just like that, but they have TEN warheads each, and each 150 kT warhead (10x Hiroshima) is well able to cause serious destruction.

One rocket, 10 cities.

Or shall we dump all 10 of them on NYC alone? At 8.5 million people, its a big target.

Here is 1 of the 10 warheads going off at the foot of the Empire State Building: 150 kt groundburst manhattan

thats 1/10 of 1 rockets potential.

Russia will build 170 of these rockets and will have 124 fully functional, ready to go. Thats 186 megatons as 1240 warheads.

Thats just one type of their rockets, the type that strikes in minutes, before the president is off the toilet.


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