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Russia bombers off california?
#21913093 - 07/08/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did everyone miss this news? I don't recall seeing it on tv but i don't watch much of it anyway.
But apparently on july 4th putin sent BOMBERS off the coast of CALIFORNIA on the edge of our airspace........
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21913104 - 07/08/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The states recently deployed heavy weapons and a mass of troops to a few strategic locations close to Russia. You dont see it in the news but the tension between the two powers is comparable to the climax of the cold war. Theyre already threatning to nuke eachother. The US by quietly moving nuclear defense systems in. Russia by openly saying he'll do so if the US continues to escalate. This incident is just a small symptom of the underlying tensions between them.
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they didn't make the news cuz it wasnt the russians but infact E.T.s they were UFO's aliens conspiracy cover up war death
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Is America once again poking her nose where it doesn't belong or is there another reason Russia is pissed
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21913333 - 07/08/15 03:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Meh. Russia is practically a third world country in terms of its military might. Their tech is old, their troops are practically untrained (compared to ours), they have only a tiny fraction of the equipment we have, their economy is bullshit compared to ours, etc. etc. Sure, they have nukes, but so do we and so do a lot of people. Who cares? The Russian military is a joke compared to ours.
The fact that our government is more worried about amateur terrorists living in poverty in destroyed third world countries says something about just how little of a threat Russia actually poses to us. Now that doesn't mean we're going to step in and do something (militarily) if they roll over a European country like Ukraine, but the US is not Ukraine. Our army and economy dwarfs Russia's, and they know it.
These flybys are probably more for internal politics than for us. No one in America takes this shit seriously except the paranoid. Everyone else realizes that Russia has less of an economy than Germany, and less of an army than Australia.
Now China on the other hand, they have quite a decent army, all modern equipment, thriving economy... That's a country that could pose a real threat to us if it weren't our ally. Which is probably why the US is so concerned with what's happening in the south china sea, and so totally unconcerned with these Russian flybys.
You know these Russian planes they do flybys with wouldn't last five minutes in a dogfight against one of our planes?
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: nooneman]
#21913379 - 07/08/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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they don't have to last 5 mins, its a fucking bomber plane filled with nukes. Im not sure what lasting affects there were from nuking japan but im sure there were some, or alot, i know plant meltdowns are really bad but for some reason people just mention that japan bombing but thats really about it, or its talked about so rarely, i dunno anyways point being i assume a nuke getting blown up in the sky near california would be a bad thing.
id also assume in a real attack they would hit us in a bunch of different ways all at once increasing the chances of something working.
to think they just because they have old military shit that they can't get through, well i don't believe that for a second. I also don't believe that everything they have is old either, america isn't the only one with secrets, they could just be pretending to have old shit, and when things really go down, the curtain comes down and they have a million fighter jets built by little girls in china and just carpet bomb the entire country in one hour
i mean look at 3d printers, everyone knows the potential of them, not think about secret bases for a second, they are thinking about that potential as well, and id bet anything russia, or at least china, has, or is working hard at creating a setup where they could build weapons and planes super fast and super cheap and could be copys of what we have.........
you always hear about new secret weapons being tested every couple years, like the laser beam melting planes and boats, shit like that, but u never really hear much from china or russia, other than things like new fleets of planes or subs ect.
I think america shows off our new technology to scare people, and china/russia are hiding theirs for when shit hits the fan, just my guess. China holds basically all manufactoring, in a war i think that really gives them the upper hand as far as replacing things.
Plus, who even likes america over there? doesn't the entire middle east hate us at this point, besides isreal and maybe south korean? maybe france and britian? meanwhile from my understanding iraq, iran, afgan, egypt, north korean, russia, china, don't all those hate us pretty much? china takes our money, lots of trade, but other than that i don't get the impression that they actually like us
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21913396 - 07/08/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Our troops are in Ukraine right now actually killing people.
Russian military power isn't centered on projection or domination of other countries through force of military presence like the U.S. Their whole military strategy is at present defensive in nature not offense and your wrong about their military being shit. It is somewhat run down as a whole due to over a decade of neglect in the nineties and early 2000s but they have been modernizing it over the last 15 years thanks to the rise in oil prices. In certain select areas they may match or exceed U.S. capability. Missile technology is one of them. Its possible that the U.S. military cant shoot down their latest generation of missiles nukes being included and their military is more than big enough to defend their borders from a conventional attack by the U.S. if they were insane enough to even try. Plus if we messed with Russia we have to mess with China as well. Which even if we won the military war we would face economic ruin at home due to our reliance on resources and goods from both countries.
So far Putin and Russia are waiting for U.S. to collapse on our own weight so to speak. He knows bear bombers are useless its just for show.
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21913406 - 07/08/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: Did everyone miss this news? I don't recall seeing it on tv but i don't watch much of it anyway.
But apparently on july 4th putin sent BOMBERS off the coast of CALIFORNIA on the edge of our airspace........
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: nooneman]
#21913417 - 07/08/15 04:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Russia never came into US airspace and as far as international law goes they were perfectly within their rights. It's really a nonevent pretty much.
Despite what the news would have you believe, I'm pretty sure they do stuff like that all the time.
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nooneman said: their economy is bullshit compared to ours, etc. etc. Sure, they have nukes, but so do we and so do a lot of people. Who cares? The Russian military is a joke compared to ours.
This. The Russian army is a bunch of angry drunks. The state of California alone has a larger economy than the entire country of Russia.
Putin just likes to act like a tough guy.
As nooneman mentioned, IMO we should be way more worried about China than Russia. Although with China's stock market in a free fall things don't look great there, either.
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Randomtask said: even if we won the military war we would face economic ruin at home due to our reliance on resources and goods from both countries.
I know many people say that, but I wonder if this is really true? I feel like if anything, not being so reliant on Chinese outsourcing might actually lead to job creation in the US
Edited by FlyOnTheWall (07/08/15 04:20 AM)
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#21913607 - 07/08/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Putin is a little insecure child, and he is posturing, no more no less. to bomb (or otherwise attack) the usa would likely bring the end of human life on earth, because once one icmb is launched, the rest are going to follow suit. it's a no win situation.
so meanwhile Putin rides bears shirtless and threatens nuclear war....to validate his (lack of) masculinity.
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: istandalone]
#21913632 - 07/08/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't see why everyone always assumes that if one nuke goes off then they all do. There's no politics in that. Shit, what if every major world power is aware that one has a single decisive warhead that would destory us all, and whatever this shit is, is an exercise to boost the economy and nationalism? Nukes were a long time ago. I realize that's speculation but so is assuming all nukes are gonna drop. If everyone is so aware of the destructive capability of nukes then why wouldn't they try to prevent a domino effect? Or is everyone so sure of the 'evil elite' that they need to assume that their endgame agenda is 'I'm taking you with me"?
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#21913642 - 07/08/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: Did everyone miss this news? I don't recall seeing it on tv but i don't watch much of it anyway.
But apparently on july 4th putin sent BOMBERS off the coast of CALIFORNIA on the edge of our airspace........
This happens a lot. Seriously, it's nothing new. Russia does it with a lot of other countries... As do we
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: 404] 1
#21913644 - 07/08/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: Did everyone miss this news? I don't recall seeing it on tv but i don't watch much of it anyway.
But apparently on july 4th putin sent BOMBERS off the coast of CALIFORNIA on the edge of our airspace........
This happens a lot. Seriously, it's nothing new. Russia does it with a lot of other countries... As do we
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Lucis]
#21913673 - 07/08/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Asante] 1
#21913681 - 07/08/15 07:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's gotta be one of the worst things i've ever watched. I got to "you're apart of america" and instantly shut it off.
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: 404]
#21913723 - 07/08/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was an important opinion shaper in the cold war, which is why we are allgathered here now and not in a fallout shelter eating canned food from the 1980s.
Its "In Europe and America" by the way.
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XLCaps said: I don't see why everyone always assumes that if one nuke goes off then they all do. There's no politics in that. Shit, what if every major world power is aware that one has a single decisive warhead that would destory us all, and whatever this shit is, is an exercise to boost the economy and nationalism? Nukes were a long time ago. I realize that's speculation but so is assuming all nukes are gonna drop. If everyone is so aware of the destructive capability of nukes then why wouldn't they try to prevent a domino effect? Or is everyone so sure of the 'evil elite' that they need to assume that their endgame agenda is 'I'm taking you with me"?
we fire an icbm, Russia detects it, and fires their own. what then? do you really think Putin and Obama will just shake hands after and walk away? once one missile has been launched, the possibility of more following grows exponentially with each bomb launched.
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: istandalone]
#21913750 - 07/08/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MIRV ICBM's suck. One missile vaporizes 8 cities.
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: Asante]
#21913759 - 07/08/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If their bombs still work. Nuclear weapons have shelf life of maybe a decade or two.
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Re: Russia bombers off california? [Re: koods]
#21913764 - 07/08/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That depends on how they're made. And you can bet that Russia keeps a good number of nukes in working order, Putin likes nukes.
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