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OfflineRunningWater
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How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens?
    #2096569 - 11/12/03 11:48 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

My ex wife grew out a batch. Some were opening up while others were still mid cycle. She wanted to pick em all at once, so she let the smaller ones grow. Some of their caps were open for 2-3 days. How less potent are overmature ones? They aren't useless, are they?


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: RunningWater]
    #2096597 - 11/12/03 11:53 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

usually you pick em just as the veil breaks or tears,i've heard differnt people say there is no differnce in potency but you have to let em grow out for spore printing


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2096611 - 11/12/03 11:57 AM (13 years, 24 days ago)

just don't let those rot !!


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2096644 - 11/12/03 12:08 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

So they're OK?


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2096655 - 11/12/03 12:12 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

eat em ALL  !!!!!!!!!!!!!

:ooo: :smirk: :wink: :tongue: :cool: :smile: :laugh: :evil: :lol:  :eek: :nut: 


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: diacamomo]
    #2096671 - 11/12/03 12:18 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

I think the basic consensus on potency in mature mushrooms is as follows:

After the veil breaks the mushroom puts all its energy into spore production and growth rather than the production of psilocybin. So the maximum ratio of psilocybin/weight is just as the veil is breaking. After that the psilocybin stays the same but the mushroom is getting bigger without getting more potent.

I think that's right.


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2096678 - 11/12/03 12:22 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)


bigger = more weight !

so if u take 3 fatass mushies !
of course it's gonna be more potent comparing with regular mushies !

(that's what i think)
somebody can confirmed?


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: diacamomo]
    #2096701 - 11/12/03 12:32 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

Bigger is not necessarily better.

But if those big mushrooms were harvested at the correct time (just as their veil broke) they will be more potent than a mushroom of the same size that was just allowed to grow as large as it possibly could.


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2096705 - 11/12/03 12:34 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

it's that a fact ?


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2096714 - 11/12/03 12:36 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

i guess no ...


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2096718 - 11/12/03 12:37 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

"But if those big mushrooms were harvested at the correct time (just as their veil broke) they will be more potent than a mushroom of the same size that was just allowed to grow as large as it possibly could."
IME thats definitely the case. I always noticed that I will trip alot harder off of mushrooms with the veils still attached then an equivalent dose of mature fungus. Also I have noticed that the mushrooms with the veils still attached or slightly torn blue alot more then the mature ones as well. Not to mention that the mushrooms taste alot worse the more mature they get.



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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: diacamomo]
    #2096721 - 11/12/03 12:38 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

Like I said, I think that is the general consensus. But do whatever you want.

But whatever you do, good luck.


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2096804 - 11/12/03 01:01 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

Just remember that the blueing reaction is IN NO WAY related to the psilocybin content. It is a compleatly differnt chemical reacting. but it could be a good indicator of overall chem content


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: RunningWater]
    #2096899 - 11/12/03 01:31 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

either properly controlled scientific studies have been done with this or they haven't. poorly informed speculation based on nothing more than subjective personal experiences and unproven assumptions are pretty useless.  :eyemouth:


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: diacamomo]
    #2097797 - 11/12/03 05:12 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

Quote:

diacamomo said:

bigger = more weight !

so if u take 3 fatass mushies !
of course it's gonna be more potent comparing with regular mushies !

(that's what i think)
somebody can confirmed?




He's got a point, no one is going to pick all the primordia for max potency.


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Re: How much psilocybin is decreased in over mature specimens? [Re: SixCee]
    #2097808 - 11/12/03 05:19 PM (13 years, 24 days ago)

man...i eat em for fun...you get fucked up either way...i think that weight does kind of matter when you want eat 4 grams...and you eat 2 fat ass mushies...or you eat 5 little mushies..either way..l


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