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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1965492 - 09/30/03 09:16 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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If you don't have a handgun, don't talk to criminals




WTF? Even you have know that that made no sense.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1965498 - 09/30/03 09:22 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

:cool:

'Twas a joke.

Let me explain... No. There is no time. Let me sum up.

How did the criminal know who had guns and who didn't?

Someone had to tell him.

My advice to all people who don't own handguns is this: Don't tell criminals you are unarmed.

hahahaha get it?

hahahahah...hahaha...haha...ha...

Well, it was funny a few minutes ago. 


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1965566 - 09/30/03 10:03 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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How did the criminal know who had guns and who didn't?





In a society that bans guns the only ones who would have them would be the criminals because the ones that follow the law are those that would of turned them in ie: the houses on the left.

If i was a criminal i'd go to the places where they outlaw guns because the odds are i wouldn't be running into someone brandishing one during my shopping spree through their house.

in the future it might help to say you're joking because i've seen many on this site who would use that as an example and actually mean it.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1965581 - 09/30/03 10:08 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

*in the future it might help to say you're joking because i've seen many on this site who would use that as an example and actually mean it.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Hahahahaha...hahahaha...hahaha...haha...ha...

J/K

*If i was a criminal i'd go to the places where they outlaw guns because the odds are i wouldn't be running into someone brandishing one during my shopping spree through their house.

So... all the criminals are moving to Singapore?

Hahahaha...hahaha...haha...ha..

J/K

Perhaps Michael Moore wouldn't have so much trouble if he let us know when HE is joking.

Hahahaha...hahaha...haha...ha...

J/K

In all seriousness, I think I'll take my chances and let the jokes fall where they may.



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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1965583 - 09/30/03 10:11 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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So... all the criminals are moving to Singapore.




not there because if they got caught they'd actually be punished. The ol' "my parents abused me as a child" excuse wouldn't hold much water there..they'd be cained out of the country


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1965589 - 09/30/03 10:14 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

not there because if they got caught they'd actually be punished. The ol' "my parents abused me as a child" excuse wouldn't hold much water there..they'd be cained out of the country

So all the criminals are fleeing Singapore and moving to England?

Hahahaha...hahaha...haha...ha...

J/K

Seriously folks... I'll be here all week.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1965600 - 09/30/03 10:20 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

*rim shot* :smirk:


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1965607 - 09/30/03 10:23 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

:nut:

(Holds for applause)


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1965715 - 09/30/03 11:01 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I'd just like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that most documentaries are biased towards some ultimate conclusion, whether its "drugs are bad for you", or "The lack of a blue shift indicates the universe will die a cold death", or "There is too much soviet uranium floating around the black market" or "the region between pakistan and afghanistan is crawling with terrorists"

documentaries represent facts but they also generally have a thesis, some point they are trying to prove.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1965893 - 09/30/03 11:57 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

ya think?


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1965905 - 09/30/03 12:04 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

*documentaries represent facts but they also generally have a thesis, some point they are trying to prove.

True, true. If documentaries want to tell a story, it helps to have a thesis. Simple fact reporting wouldn't be cinematic.

Michael Moore is different. He is a visible character inside his documentaries. He actively does things to manipulate the plot of his movies. Traditional documentarians aren't as visible within their documentaries as Moore is in his.

This makes his documentaries different. I think this is part of the reason why Roger and Me wasn't nominated for best documentary. Moore had to get documentarians to accept his changes in their format.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1966158 - 09/30/03 01:24 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

The movie "Fargo" was a documentary.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1966262 - 09/30/03 01:56 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Actually, depending on the study, handguns are used well over a million times a year to prevent crimes. Even if only 1/2 of 1% of those save a life, it's still by far the majority.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1966288 - 09/30/03 02:04 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I've never seen a gun kill anyone.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1966293 - 09/30/03 02:06 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Fargo Proscript

"This is a true story."

"The events depicted in this film
took place in Minnesota in 1987."

"At the request of the survivors,
The names have been changed."

"Out of respect for the dead,
the rest has been told exactly
as it occoured."

Gotta' love them Cohen Bros. They lied about their movie in the first frame to make it feel more real. No events in Minnesota history (or American history for that matter) resemble the ones depected in "Fargo." One of the greatest gags in cinematic history.

And it is my favorite documentary of all time.

Hahahaha...hahaha...haha...ha...

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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1966302 - 09/30/03 02:09 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

*L:Actually, depending on the study, handguns are used well over a million times a year to prevent crimes. Even if only 1/2 of 1% of those save a life, it's still by far the majority.

I'd like to see your source. I'm not interested in police and military acts, just civilian.

Handguns don't kill people. People with handguns kill.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1966308 - 09/30/03 02:10 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

at least tell me that the wood chipper scene was real...


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1966316 - 09/30/03 02:12 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

It was a real woodchipper.


Boo ya!


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1966330 - 09/30/03 02:17 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

But the name of the manufacturer was changed.


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Re: Michael Moore - "Dude, Where's My Country?" [Re: Rose]
    #1966358 - 09/30/03 02:25 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

*Actually, depending on the study, handguns are used well over a million times a year to prevent crimes. Even if only 1/2 of 1% of those save a life, it's still by far the majority.

Wait a minute. Handguns are used over a million times a year to prevent crimes? How do you know?

If the crime wasn't committed, it wasn't committed. Who's to say a handgun prevented it?

P. Diddy?

This "Study" studies things that didn't happen. The only thing it proves (If such a study exists) is handguns are drawn a lot... and when drawn, the person who draws the gun thinks they prevented a crime. How heroic.

Handguns ARE used to commit crimes. Studies are readily available showing how often crimes are committed with handguns. These studies are, also, valid. They study things that actually happened.


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