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Michael Moore & Wal Mart
#1352901 - 03/05/03 02:13 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I found this on the FP-10 Website under Alerts @
www.fp10.com/walmartpetition.htm
It seems as though Michael Moore is trying to convice Wal Mart to stop selling Handgun Ammunition nationwide.
Go here to sign and read the petition.
http://www.petitiononline.com/GT1776/petition.html
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Clarification to above post:
The petition linked to above is AGAINST Michael Moore's petition to end the sales of ammunition in all Wal-Marts. Just thought that needed to be clarified for those of us who would respond without actually clicking on the link.
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Ha what a douche.
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what an idiot
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Michael Moore is a moron..ha ha
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Yeah I thought this was kinda gay. I don't even buy ammo @ walmart but I like to have them as a high $ opinon if I run out. I only bought 1 box of 20 7.62 shells there once and will never again unless I have to have them.(my ammo got soaked on hunting trip)
I think I payed close to 13 bucks for a box of 20 At my local gun shop a box of 20 costs me 3.00
The only ammo I really ever buy there is shotgun shells and 22rd's There cheap anywhere
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Michael Moore is a hero
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Learyfan]
#1353772 - 03/06/03 03:10 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Michael Moore is a complete moron. He'd be best off to shut his mouth before he makes any more of an ass of himself.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: psilo25]
#1353796 - 03/06/03 03:27 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I stand corrected.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: psilo25]
#1353852 - 03/06/03 04:03 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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"He'd be best off to shut his mouth before he makes any more of an ass of himself."
Yeah, people shouldn't be allowed to say things you disagree with.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Phluck]
#1353950 - 03/06/03 04:46 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey, the man's allowed to say anything he wants, regardless of whether or not I agree with anything he says. I just think that he's an idiot, that's all.
EDIT: and I meant no personal attack against you, Learyfan. I happen to think your posts add a very interesting dimension to the Shroomery community. I always look forward to seeing what new and interesting pic you have attached to your posts.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Phluck]
#1354006 - 03/06/03 05:09 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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michael moore should be protesting walmarts labor practices, not whether or not they sell a commodity that helps law-abiding citizens protect themselves.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: psilo25]
#1354168 - 03/06/03 06:24 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know you didn't mean anything man. It's cool.
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If I see that fat fucking bastard michael moore I will personally walk up and shoot his bitch ass in the face with my pistol
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: joe666]
#1354242 - 03/06/03 06:44 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like you joe...i'd kick him in the nutz
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Innvertigo]
#1354252 - 03/06/03 06:47 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd slice open his worm filled gut with a shiv.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Evolving]
#1354313 - 03/06/03 07:09 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shank 'em old school..
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Innvertigo]
#1354385 - 03/06/03 07:39 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd, um...shit, you guys already did everything.
Actually even though I bet it's hard to stand being around him, I think he plays a useful role.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: hongomon]
#1354389 - 03/06/03 07:41 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Disinformation?
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Innvertigo]
#1354411 - 03/06/03 07:49 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Where would we be without it?
No, as a whistleblower-bitcher. 'Course, you bring up a good point: we also need whistleblower-bitchers for the whistleblower bitchers. Watchdogs for the watchdogs.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Innvertigo]
#1355693 - 03/06/03 07:40 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you guys not realize it or what? He's trying to make a point that Americans are too violent and you are responding saying that you want to kick his ass and kill him... ?? Hello?
WalMart shouldnt sell ammo anyways.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: angryshroom]
#1355764 - 03/06/03 09:10 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOL. The posters in this thread are just confirming his point.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: angryshroom]
#1355818 - 03/06/03 10:50 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you guys not realize it or what? He's trying to make a point that Americans are too violent and you are responding saying that you want to kick his ass and kill him... ?? Hello?
quit yer whining, they were just jokes. I thought you libbies had a sense of humor....no matter how sick it may be. Here's a tissue.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: TheHateCamel]
#1355824 - 03/06/03 10:57 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I almost forgot about Wal Mart. Wal Mart sucks, who the hell buys ammo from Wal Mart anyway?
Maybe you could try coming up with an arguement that disolves Walmart, and ...oh...I don't know... say it to them. Wait...no that's to hard...just fucking rip Walmarts fat ass hole out with your teeth and chew it like jerky while they sell legal materials...boo hoo hoo.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: TheHateCamel]
#1355905 - 03/07/03 12:40 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are hundreds if not thousands of arguments agaist gun control which people like Moore simply dismiss. How do you argue with a brick wall?
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: angryshroom]
#1356197 - 03/07/03 03:45 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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He's trying to make a point that Americans are too violent and you are responding saying that you want to kick his ass and kill him... ?? Hello?
I guess this is why carrot top is the number one comic in America and Bill Hicks was unknown there. Like Bill says "That's what fundamentalism breeds - no irony"
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Anonymous]
#1356208 - 03/07/03 03:49 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are hundreds if not thousands of arguments agaist gun control which people like Moore simply dismiss.
You mean completly wrong, made up arguments like the one you raised in the GUNS thread? Like this made-up quote from Adolf?
?This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!? - Adolph Hitler, April 15, 1935
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Innvertigo]
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: TheHateCamel]
#1356475 - 03/07/03 05:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's actually pretty damn funny, cut and paste jokes
i'll admit to that one...
it's just that you did the same thing and i was making a little jab...sorry
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But, you jumped the gun, I didn't say that I thought they SHOULDN'T sell it,
i know you didn't, angryshroom did so i was merging my point with him....so i'll just assume you said it
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I just wondered who would goto Wal Mart for ammunition anyway, you can get it cheaper just about anywhere else.
walmart (or K-mart) is pretty cheap for shotgun shells but i've never bought rifle ammo there.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Xlea321]
#1356567 - 03/07/03 05:17 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah yes, I forgot. If you say something's wrong, it's wrong. No need to back it up with proof.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Anonymous]
#1356765 - 03/07/03 06:36 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you say something's wrong, it's wrong. No need to back it up with proof.
You stilll believe in that Hitler qoute? Any evidence of your own to support it? Can you provide me a law the Nazi's passed relating to gun control in 1935? Shouldn't be too hard to prove if there's any truth to it whatsoever.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Xlea321]
#1356769 - 03/07/03 06:37 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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i don't care if hitler said it or not. it sounds like something he'd say.
gun control is fascist authoritarian bullshit.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: ]
#1356834 - 03/07/03 07:06 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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are you sure you're a lefty?
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: ]
#1357068 - 03/07/03 09:36 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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i don't care if hitler said it or not.
I guess that's where we differ. I prefer the truth, not a fraud some pro-gun nut made up to try and make a point.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Xlea321]
#1357093 - 03/07/03 10:11 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess this is why carrot top is the number one comic in America
You've never even been to America have you?
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Xlea321]
#1357131 - 03/07/03 11:16 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I prefer the truth
I'm laughing so hard I'm crying.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Xlea321]
#1357205 - 03/08/03 01:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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"If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying--that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976--establishes the repeated, complete and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime." Senator Orrin Hatch, Chairman, Senate Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution, 97th Cong., 2d Sess., The Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Committee Print I-IX, 1-23 (1982).
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"Assault rifles have never been an issue in law enforcement. I have been on this job for 25 years and I haven't seen a drug dealer carry one. They are not used in crimes, they are not used against police officers." -- Trenton NJ Deputy Chief of Police Joseph Constance
"Since police started keeping statistics, we now know that assault weapons are/were used in an underwhelming 0.026 of 1% of crimes in New Jersey. This means that my officers are more likely to confront an escaped tiger from the local zoo than to confront an assault rifle in the hands of a drug-crazed killer on the streets." -- Joseph Constance (deputy chief of Trenton NJ police dept) in testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee in Aug 1993
Here is the best one and it's even from jesus
Jesus on Self-Defense - He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. -- the Bible, Luke 22:36.
`Firearms have been around for over 400 years, yet it is only in the last 20 years that people have begun shouting "gun control". Why then, only recently, has this become such an issue? Moreover, why are there more mass-murderers than at any other time in our known history? It is not because weapons are more powerful -- 200-year-old muzzleloaders have a much greater force-per-round than today's "assault rifles". It is not because weapons are semi- or fully-automatic -- rapid-fire weapons have been available for most of the last century. It is not due to a lack of laws -- we have more "gun control" laws than ever. It IS, however, because we have chosen to focus on "gun control" instead of crime control or "thug control." It IS because only recently has the public become complacent enough to accept, by inaction, the violence present in our society.' - Kevin Langston, Tuesday, 29 October, 1991 (Bingo)
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: TheHateCamel]
#1357241 - 03/08/03 02:30 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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>Wal Mart sucks, who the hell buys ammo from Wal Mart anyway?
Cause Moore already managed to stop K-Mart from selling ammunition. Let?s see who?s next.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Anno]
#1357258 - 03/08/03 02:45 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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No shit????
I was there getting some camping shit the otherday and desided to get a box of 9mm rounds to kill some tin cans this weekend. They told me they didn't have any 9mm rounds. I thought that was strange and shruged it off.
They still had long rifle ammo and shotgun shells. Is it just handgun ammo K-mart doesn't sell?
I usually get my stuff at the gun shop or pawn shop it usually has a way better price there.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Xlea321]
#1357265 - 03/08/03 02:50 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, your article provides no proof that Hitler didn't say the quote. It casts some doubt (doesn't disproove) upon whether or not the quote was said in a speech, but I never said, and have never seen written, that it is a quote from a speech. And I've seen it written in many places.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Anno]
#1357296 - 03/08/03 03:13 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cause Moore already managed to stop K-Mart from selling ammunition. Let?s see who?s next.
K-Mart is in Bankruptcy. Their management is incompetent. An example: business decisions made at the insistence of leftist rabble rousers.
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After the shooting in Columbine, where people were shot with ammunition sold at K-Mart, Moore started a campaign against K-mart selling ammunition(or certain kinds of it) and eventually seceded, at least for certain kinds of it.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Anonymous]
#1357443 - 03/08/03 04:40 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, your article provides no proof that Hitler didn't say the quote
Yes it does.
And I've seen it written in many places.
Urban myths do get repeated a lot - that's kinda why they're urban myths.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1357551 - 03/08/03 05:27 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Everyone hates Carrot Top.
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: TheHateCamel]
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Amen to that!
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: TheHateCamel]
#1357661 - 03/08/03 06:09 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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Everyone hates Carrot Top.
shit he's so low he's doing phone ad's now.
He was funny for about 5 mins then I changed the station
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: TheHateCamel]
#1358861 - 03/08/03 05:03 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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he's my hero....
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michael moore should be protesting walmarts labor practices, not whether or not they sell a commodity that helps law-abiding citizens protect themselves.
even though I dont "like" guns I agree there are a million and one reasons to boycott walmart !!! dont belive me just ask oh and while I am at it check this out www.adbusters.org
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Re: Michael Moore & Wal Mart [Re: Innvertigo]
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LMAO
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mr freedom
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The problem with Mr. Moore is, like most activists, he has an agenda that colors his preceptions to all else.
Mr. Moore is logical, dedicated and intelligent in his pursuit of politician's malfeasance. However, Mr. Moore is also ILLOGICAL, paranoid and emotionaly attached to his AGENDA to remove guns and resulting gun violence from the U.S.
When one gets to the point where ones message is being heard it is often that at this time the messenger requits from logical discussion to emotional arguments in support of their position. This usualy results in " (blank) is a dick" arguments; as we have here.
Mr. Moore hates gun violence; it's just that simple. He also hates lying politicians and the messes they leave in their wake. Unfortunatley Mr. Moore is not a believer in the soundness of INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY. As such, he cannot distinguish between significant areas of personal libertys that should NOT be invaded and those areas which are more malliable in this sense.
I like his work for the most part. I just recognize his actions as those of one that is WILLING to give up his own personal liberty for some sense of saftey. As such, I also despise him. In fact, I now despise Tom Cruise, for his public statement to the effect that (paraphrase) "we need to give up some liberty to ensure our saftey".
It is dangerous to have such characters running around with a camera and microphone. My concern is that the sheep people will just nod their heads and say "that sounds good" adn then vote in a politician that works , with some ENTHUSIASM, to ensure the removal of ALL personal libertys.
Mr. Moore is just an interesting director, producer and writer; nothing more (no pun intended).
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