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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: psychodelia]
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psychodelia said:
Ill make it easier for you. Do it man what could go wrong?  :smile2:



sudden death, or like brain damage maybe


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Seriously_trippin said:
Sounds like a high price to pay but I have seen a person do worse. One dude wanted to go for a study that had him remove one of his testicles. He would've done it but he wasn't fit enough for it.



I think I'd rather do that before I'd fuck around with the brain.  At least your completely numb on pain drugs until it's all healed.

Brain problems can last for life


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: Lizard Eyes]
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I would like to see the structure and some data already collected on TAK-063 to make an i9nformed decision. Based on that I would or wouldnt.

A drug like that would suck bollocks for me to take dail;y because MXE is my D.O.C and this drug probably completely blocks all that I want it for.


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Edited by Asante (02/10/14 05:42 AM)

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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: Asante]
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Uh guys you do fucking ketamine anyway and DXM + other drugs / drug cocktails, and you're worried about what looks like a few doses of a future short-acting antipsychotic that must have already been tested on mice etc. is going to do to your brain?

You guys have probably already caused a lot of changes/damage to the brain in your drug use careers.

Go do the test then they might find a better antipsychotic than the ones available and millions of people might have their nightmare, depressed, shitty, faggot schizophrenic lives improved.

And you get to be high again so yeah.


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: circastes]
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The drug is being developed for Schizophrenia, Autism and Depression and has a novel target. Its a risk but imagine that its a good drug, how many people with very difficult and often disabling mental states would be helped by it.


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: Whitewater]
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Whitewater said:
I'm confused, are they treating schizophrenia with ketamine combined with tak-063?
Do you have schizophrenia? Your posts seem pretty coherent.



Who says someone with schizophrenia can't make coherent posts, I have schizophrenia and I am quite articulate when it comes to most subject matter, and yes, it's quite severe.

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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: Lizard Eyes]
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As someone else mentioned, there are probably mounds of animal data supporting the basic safety of this drug.  In addition, there are probably at least some safety data in humans available. The drug would have to be characterized by itself before giving it in combination with a different drug.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: badchad]
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Buest and all of the voices coming from his walls are very good at being coherent.

But yeah I'd do it. If u get serououlsy harmed someone who loves you can provably sue the balls off them and get a butt load of money.


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: CodeLion]
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CodeLion said:
Buest and all of the voices coming from his walls are very good at being coherent.

But yeah I'd do it. If u get serououlsy harmed someone who loves you can provably sure the balls off them and get a butt load of money.



Dat's right, awesome avatar btw!

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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: Lizard Eyes]
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Hell fucking yes you should do it, 1800 to get shot up with K and some new and exciting psychotic drug. Fucks to the yes


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: volcomstoner]
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I've never smoked incense so I'm relatively normal

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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: Konyap]
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Well I signed up for it nothing to do but wait now :justcantwait:


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: Lizard Eyes]
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I would do it, im all about doing drugs for science.

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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: FreeTheSoul]
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FreeTheSoul said:
I would do it, im all about doing drugs for science.



I'm all about doing drugs for fun! :kingtard: And in this case money :crazy: Science too I guess..... oh and some spiritual mysticism so the hippies wont get buttmad.


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: Lizard Eyes]
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When I was really sick I was basically incoherent, but 30% of treated schizophrenia leads to zero symptoms. It's usually the 30% or near enough talking to you over the internet. The negative symptoms are what usually persist not the delusions, you can be quite coherent and convincingly normal with these symptoms such as amotivation, zero emotion and depersonalisation, in many situations. Obviously one situation is the internet where you're just a paragraph of text. At a party you'd stick out like a sore thumb though.


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: circastes]
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I think they would be more effective treating schizophreniq with ketamine..


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: buest]
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buest said:
Whitewater said:
I'm confused, are they treating schizophrenia with ketamine combined with tak-063?
Do you have schizophrenia? Your posts seem pretty coherent.



Who says someone with schizophrenia can't make coherent posts, I have schizophrenia and I am quite articulate when it comes to most subject matter, and yes, it's quite severe.



My apologies, I meant no offense. I know quite a few schitzophrenics whom I'm very close too.

It's a disease I'm very familiar with.

My sister is a perfect example of an extremely articulate schitzophrenic, she could fool anyone into believing she doesn't have a problem.


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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: circastes]
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circastes said:
Uh guys you do fucking ketamine anyway and DXM + other drugs / drug cocktails, and you're worried about what looks like a few doses of a future short-acting antipsychotic that must have already been tested on mice etc. is going to do to your brain?

You guys have probably already caused a lot of changes/damage to the brain in your drug use careers.





:loldongs: Calling all brain damage, are you there?

No response :shrug:

Anyways, is this even a reasonable test for schizophrenia? I don't know how these schizophrenia drugs work but i would have thought the mechanisms would be far too specific to just apply it to ketamine.

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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: JacksonMetaller]
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For a small, Phase 2 pilot study I think a ketamine model of schizophrenia is decent.  The company may actually be looking for something other than efficacy, but its hard to know without more info.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Drug study for Schizophrenia drug. [Re: badchad]
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Well, they're just going to change the name of the drug when they release it, if it ever does get released. It depends on what type of drug you're testing. I would NEVER join the test for a SCHIZOPHRENIA drug. Those drugs can destroy your CNS neurotransmitters and fry them permanently. And if it was for a cancer drug, you'd have to have cancer. It's not safe.

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