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OfflineJaester
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Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock?
    #1948992 - 09/24/03 08:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I need some advice. After I birthed my cakes, each grew only one mushroom. Some people thought they were a little dry and adviced me wait for those to mature and then dunk/coldshock the cakes.

Well, the ones I had are almost mature but now other little mushrooms are appearing.

Should I forget about those new mushrooms that are appearing and dunk/coldshock the cakes in the hopes of getting more? Or should I settle with those others that are coming now?

Put it in another way: is it worth losing those that are appearing so that more would come later (greedy) or stick to those (safe)?

Jaester

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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: Jaester]
    #1949061 - 09/24/03 08:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Damn dude that sucks for you. What a tough ass choice! I have no idea what I'd do.

I guess greed always gets you into trouble, so stick with the safe side. You probably have 6g dried there.


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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: StrongBad]
    #1949095 - 09/24/03 08:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

to dunk or not to dunk...

you must ask yourself...

am i a gambler?

i myself would dunk... there is a chance the pins will continue and if not hell.. you'll have a couple aborts and a bunch of new ones in their place? this is a situation where you inevitably must think for yourself.

-j


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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: TheSlapnCapn]
    #1949144 - 09/24/03 08:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

How about this...dunk one, leave the other. If you fuck it up, at least you have one cake, right???


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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: TheSlapnCapn]
    #1949148 - 09/24/03 08:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Jaester, since you have a bunch of other jars to birth ... do the dunk! :smile:


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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: TheSlapnCapn]
    #1949170 - 09/24/03 08:50 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

in past experiences...ive had cakes that mysteriously did the exact same thing as yours are doing, one fruitbody, couple pins that'd abort...maybe a total of 5, 4 aborts and 1 fruitbody.

the first fruitbody was 11g wet, that was in fact due to dry substrate.
in an attempt to get more, i dunked and rolled it. the second fruitbody was substantially bigger(27g wet), but yet again, there was only one.

to this day im unsure of what caused it, though at the time i received some possible explanations, dry substrate was suggested as well in my case. another explanation was lack of dikaryotic mycellium (if memory serves correctly), which i basically interpreted that as a weak strain (in my case B+, looks the same for you as well), a strain which isnt able to massively reproduce to disperse many spores.

who knows, someone here might, i dont...
in any case, congrats on your cakes, as with my case, it might be sad that theres not more fruitbodies, but at least we succeeded. =)

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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: dysphoria]
    #1949185 - 09/24/03 08:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

dunk 1-2 and see what happens yo


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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: Jaester]
    #1949200 - 09/24/03 08:57 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Jes what's up.

This is a easy one. Dunk them bitches. The dunk will more then make up for any that you may loose now. Don't pick off the real little ones, pins and real little ones just starting. Some will survive the the dunk anything that doesn't you can take off lator.  :thumbup: 


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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: Magash]
    #1949530 - 09/24/03 10:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

One shroom means only that single spot of mycelia is getting enough humidity etc. You should dunk or case. I would case because when I have dunked after the mycelia exposed to air gets nasty green mold.


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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: THATS iT!]
    #1950454 - 09/25/03 07:26 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Excellent advice friends. I will probably take the advice for experimentation and dunk one of them and try to do some casing with the other one and another couple of cakes I have.

I did those cakes following the PF-Tek for simple minds since this is my first run. Any advice on a casing recipe that is simple and harder to screw up?

Jaester


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Re: Advice needed: Keep going or dunk/coldshock? [Re: Jaester]
    #1950631 - 09/25/03 10:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

straight verm. If you use coco or peat or something like that, you have to mess with PH and start adding lime or something else to balance out the PH. Just straight verm is easiest, and effective.


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